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Title: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: rasmy56 on September 11, 2018, 03:40:39 AM
External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown, not initialised and no space showing in windows 10

How can i solve and safely get all the data?

Please kindly help, Tank you in advance

In devices & printer i troubleshoot 
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Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: DaveLembke on September 11, 2018, 10:33:30 AM
First off the health of the device should be checked... if you connect this to a different computer with a different OS such as Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 does this hard drive then work properly in one of those OS environments?

160GB is an older drive and I have seen before where the USB to IDE or SATA bridge controller in the external enclosure has a driver issue with an OS. Testing this on an earlier OS might fix the issue your having to be able to connect your older hard drive to that older system to copy the data to a newer external drive or USB stick(s) that has USB drivers to support Windows 10.

However if this drive was working fine with Windows 10 and then one day stopped working and the system didnt go through Windows 10 system updates, then the drive itself could be failing or the USB to hard drive bridge controller in the external case could have died at which you then would have to swap the hard drive over to a new healthy case or attach it internally to a desktop computer as a secondary drive, or get a drive dock that pairs up to SATA if its a SATA drive or IDE if an IDE drive.

If there is an option to format the drive do not click on accepting to format it. As well as if Windows wants to create anything on that drive run it by us first to prevent totally wiping out your data.

Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: Mark. on September 11, 2018, 02:55:07 PM
as discussed in your current thread on the PC Help Forum, tell us where the drive has come from and what it was being used for.the 160GB capacity drives have not been sold for many years.the chances are excellent the drive has failed.
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: Geek-9pm on September 11, 2018, 04:44:26 PM
New overstocked 160 GB drives are now at very low prices on eBay.
Most vendors offer a one-year warranty for a small additional fee.

You can order one from New-egg if yu don't like eBay.

Western Digital 160GB 3.5" 7200RPM SATAII_ (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6AH20X2762&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-_-Hard+Drives-_-9SIA6AH20X2762&gclid=Cj0KCQjwz93cBRCrARIsAEFbWsidAJ-UtD3fTv-fl_E08jfmAFEpJlQNvisqJpKK6TY-Re8-dghQeikaAlTMEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds)
Nice price!  ;D
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: patio on September 11, 2018, 05:05:11 PM
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unknown, not initialised and no space showing in windows 10

Your data is gone...sorry.
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: rasmy56 on September 12, 2018, 05:26:19 AM
as discussed in your current thread on the PC Help Forum, tell us where the drive has come from and what it was being used for.the 160GB capacity drives have not been sold for many years.the chances are excellent the drive has failed.

I do not know more history, i know only it was used in windows just save documents videos and images   
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: rasmy56 on September 12, 2018, 05:28:37 AM
Hello friends,
So far i have come up with this status,

I have extract hard drive from case enclosure, and connect to power cable's second adaptor and connect CD ROM's SATA data cable and power on (i am not sure is correct or not its hard find here enclosure immediately.)   
and first boot error "Hard drive error" see below link
https://ibb.co/kxCipp
https://ibb.co/bS14vU

Second i try to get boot menu and force boot from my internal hard drive under Legacy Boot Source
widows power on but result is same for my external drive (unknown, not initialised & no Space) see the links below,
https://ibb.co/bHkKUp
https://ibb.co/cbJTN9

and see extracted external drive images has some damages too. links below,
https://ibb.co/c2wyN9
https://ibb.co/kXjPvU
https://ibb.co/nL9UUp

so based on this scenario expert like you what can be conclude as my solution for data recovery/get drive work.

thank you very much for your times
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: Mark. on September 12, 2018, 05:44:44 AM
whoa, those are not just "I've been dropped" marks, they are "I've been jammed between something" sort of scratches.
but despite the cause, they are indicators the drive has suffered serious impact.
and although the heads may be parked when the drive is not powered, it's still no precaution against high impact.
I would almost 100% state that your only chance at recovering data from that unit is with a professional data recovery lab.

if you don't know the drive's history, how do you know what data is worth recovering?
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: patio on September 12, 2018, 05:55:57 AM
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if you don't know the drive's history, how do you know what data is worth recovering?

I was wondering the same...
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: rasmy56 on September 12, 2018, 06:06:13 AM
if you don't know the drive's history, how do you know what data is worth recovering?

the person who own this device not yet shared what he want exactly from this disk, ask me to try out to get data,

now i want to approach and ask him what he need exactly from this, if he tell exactly what he want or may be a particular partition

so can i able to recover using any tool after initialised and create sample disk on my pc ? is this possible 
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: patio on September 12, 2018, 06:12:05 AM
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I would almost 100% state that your only chance at recovering data from that unit is with a professional data recovery lab.

Unless you are being paid for this task i wouldn't waste any time...
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: rasmy56 on September 12, 2018, 06:59:11 AM
Unless you are being paid for this task i wouldn't waste any time...

This is where everything ends )), if you know solid solution post here please, i will try my self 1st if i unable to do so will approach to you,
otherwise how can i solved and close this thread.

i am trying myself to get knowledge, otherwise i have been put this task to any repairing shop.
   
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: patio on September 12, 2018, 03:10:09 PM
Sorry you took things the wrong way but our advice is solid...a physically damaged drive has little chance of data recovery as opposed to one that is not...

Doesn't matter what apps we could suggest to try...it is what it is.
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: Mark. on September 12, 2018, 03:41:28 PM
the only thing even remotely worth a try would be an excellent data recovery program called Recuva (by Piriform).
but no program is going to read a physically damaged drive - and your drive is VERY physically damaged.

all recovery software that I've used relies on the drive having a drive letter assigned to it by the system.
so first up you would need to initialise AND format that drive.  both of those processes would be SEVERELY hindered due to the damage (which is how it lost them in the first place).
and the mere fact that you are accessing the drive will further impact data recovery chances.

then, let's say all the rainbow coloured unicorns formed up in a perfect row, you are then up for hours and hours of time with Recuva going through the sectors looking for files.
and it won't find fileA and fileB - these sort of programs find fragments of files and have no way of knowing how to 'stitch' them back together, so forget pictures, music and video files, they'll all be 'corrupted'.
so even if you could get the PC to detect the drive, assign a drive letter, and run recovery software, you will after all that - at best - have a bunch of corrupted files you can't use.
and a paid-for professional recovery mob will charge 100's of dollars - so is the data worth that?

this is a classic sordid tale of a situation totally avoidable by having a backup regime in place - but that doesn't help you know.
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: Geek-9pm on September 12, 2018, 04:04:43 PM
For what it is worth.
Prevention is better that a cure.
In the Personal Computer world that means backup and testing on a regular schedule. Otherwise, recovery from a major failure is very hard.
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: patio on September 12, 2018, 05:09:42 PM
It's a bit late for that Geek...did you see the HDD ? ?
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: Geek-9pm on September 12, 2018, 10:56:26 PM
Patio, I conjure the HDD can not be recovered using any sensible  method.

He did not say how much time and money he wants to spend on the issue. If there is no limit, he could spend the rest of his life and all of his resources trying to find out what was on that drive.

But before doing that, he could pay about $300 to have Se agate Technology read whatever data can be found on the platter.
Here is a link that outlines some of the things they can do.
https://www.seagate.com/tech-insights/data-loss-and-recovery-solutions-master-ti/
That page has links to other pages that relate to data recovery .
One is a YouTube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Y7BniaRXg
I suggest he watch the video.
It is up to the OP if he wants to go all the way with this.  :-\
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: BC_Programmer on September 12, 2018, 11:13:08 PM
It's not even his drive. That kind of annoys me, frankly.

Somebody asked him "Can you get the data off my drive for me" presumably because that data is *important* to them, And instead of saying "I don't think I'm qualified" He apparently answered in the affirmative- and then turns around and shows up here treating what could very well be critical data to this other person as if it was a learning experience solely for his benefit.

If you want to learn about how to recover data, maybe risk your own drives and your own data, don't basically tell or imply to somebody that you are up to the task and use it as a "learning experience" at their expense.
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: rasmy56 on September 13, 2018, 03:54:03 AM
hello, have a grate day to all of you..

first of all, i have been subjected as cross platform posting, since I am new to forums please apologise me,
I sincerely thankful for your time and effort.   
further, i am continuing this forum threat to further discussion and i already informed other forums & linked to here.

to introduce me, in graduated in IT  2015, currently 1 year exprced laravel/vuejs developer working in a agency. whenever i have no project my boss assign me on other IT stuffs, like that this time this HDD.

Apart to that still i have kind of dilemma what to grab from IT and make it my career. so i try whatever come to me.

anyway,

@Mark
refer to you last post, some of other said do not initialise/format.. and try to work it done/find recover solution, hence i am still not initialised i wonder this can be initialise successfully or not?  further i guess (i dont know)  generally HW Technicians having unique testing tools/methods which should be done before conclude. and physical damage is done by a technician when removing drive from case, so less changes of severe damage. also power on start up sound is also normal, finally for recovering, suppose files not corrupted its worth to try   

@patio sorry from here too, no problem

@Geek-9pm
right now worth is my reputation@office and personal knowledge, i requested ysday form owner, not yet response
i believe if i have required tools and your all concluded idea i can done this my self, is it wrong ? 

@BC_Programmer  what i'm doing highly necessary to my situation please help me do explore further process

Thank you all will c and update.
Title: Re: External Hard drive WD1600BEVS/160GB unknown , not initialised and no space show
Post by: Lisa_maree on September 13, 2018, 03:55:44 AM
Looking at the images you posted it appears more likely someone has been really rough taking the disk drive out of the case and removing the metal shield.
You could try removing the circuit board and cleaning the head contacts which are the J1 connector on the underside of the board. Be very careful not to static damage the board. A cotton bud with IPA should be all you need, the contacts should be silver with no brown oxidization.