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Title: Getting Rid of Startup Programs and Identifying what NOT to get rid of
Post by: 02bin3 on January 20, 2019, 01:15:42 PM
I have anywhere from 80 to 87 Processes going at any one time on my computer and it has slowed down my computer considerably.  I assume that everything I have a Desktop Icon for is on the Startup.  I have a Lenovo Ideacentre, 1 T hard drive, 6 GB RAM, Windows 7 Pro, 64 bit.  There is very little space used on HD C.  I found directions for stopping some of the programs from loading that I know are not essential, however, when I typed in "misconfig" at the Startup it went to a window that was not the one that it was supposed to go to in which one of the choices was STARTUP.  Finally, I just typed in System Configuration at Startup and then it finally went to the correct window where I could click on the Startup tab and view the programs that were loading on startup.  There were nowhere near the number of programs on the list that are listed as running Processes on the Task Manager.  Programs like Amazon Music, RealPlayer, Windows Media Player, 4K You Tube to MP3, Corel, The Print Shop, Epson Printer, Coupon Printer Service, Sony Camera and Flux, were not on the Startup List.  I am somewhat mystified as to where these programs are residing so that I can stop them from loading.  I have at times done End Process on Task Manager, but some of them just load right back up again.  Anyone have any suggestions as to how to get these programs to stop loading?  Thank you
Title: Re: Getting Rid of Startup Programs and Identifying what NOT to get rid of
Post by: Salmon Trout on January 20, 2019, 01:27:05 PM
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I assume that everything I have a Desktop Icon for is on the Startup

Programs that are shown as desktop shortcuts are not necessarily "loaded" at system startup. A desktop shortcut is  there for your convenience in case you want to run the programs without having to hunt for it in the Start menu.
Title: Re: Getting Rid of Startup Programs and Identifying what NOT to get rid of
Post by: Geek-9pm on January 20, 2019, 08:07:39 PM
The most common cause of slow response is from Hard Drive fragmentation and lack of free space.
Here is an article from the CH archives:
My computer is running slow, what steps can I do to fix it? (https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000179.htm)
Maybe that might help.  :)
Title: Re: Getting Rid of Startup Programs and Identifying what NOT to get rid of
Post by: Allan on January 21, 2019, 05:19:43 AM
Use Autoruns to temporarily or permanently stop processes from loading. You can Google any process with which you are not familiar before unchecking it: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns
Title: Re: Getting Rid of Startup Programs and Identifying what NOT to get rid of
Post by: 02bin3 on January 21, 2019, 07:05:18 AM
Thank you, Allan, for your suggestion, however, not being a really savvy computer person, I was totally lost by the second paragraph.  I had just assumed that when I finally found where all the startup programs were listed that the ones I didn't want to load on startup would be listed there, but they weren't.  Very few were on the list, yet I have over 80 that are listed on the Task Manager.  My physical Memory use was way up in the 60+%.  Quite by accident, I ran across a suggestion to use a Flash Drive to take on some of the overload from the RAM on my computer.  It is a program called ReadyBoost and I had a 128GB Flash Drive that I plugged into a USB port and it did drop the Physical Memory usage down to 40-50% and the computer did speed up somewhat.  The Disk Defrag was at 2%, and I use CCleaner at least 2X a week, Malwarebytes nearly every day, SpywareBlaster 2X a week, and I run a Norton Full Scan about every other night.  I do try to keep my computer running healthy within my limited knowledge parameters. 
Title: Re: Getting Rid of Startup Programs and Identifying what NOT to get rid of
Post by: Allan on January 21, 2019, 07:27:37 AM
1) Did you download autoruns and look at the various startup items?

2) Please post a screenshot of the processes tab in task manager.
Title: Re: Getting Rid of Startup Programs and Identifying what NOT to get rid of
Post by: 02bin3 on January 21, 2019, 07:52:24 AM
For whatever reason, I could not do a screenshot so I did a Snipit file instead.  The list is so long I had to do it in 2 files.
Title: Re: Getting Rid of Startup Programs and Identifying what NOT to get rid of
Post by: 02bin3 on January 21, 2019, 07:56:23 AM
Here is the First Task Manger file
Title: Re: Getting Rid of Startup Programs and Identifying what NOT to get rid of
Post by: Allan on January 21, 2019, 09:02:53 AM
If you click on the USER NAME heading at the top, it will sort by Owner and System. The one's you are interested in are the processes loaded by the OWNER (you) and they mostly seem to be related to Real Player and Amazon Music (plus the others you mentioned above). Assuming you want to keep those two apps or services, you'll need to look in their settings for how they load or what they load at startup. And as my previous post suggested, you can use Autoruns and look for those specific processes and uncheck them if you want to. If you don't need them, go to Programs & Features and uninstall the associated apps.

BTW, why do you assume these processes are slowing your system? You should keep in mind that the more physical memory (ram) your system uses, the more efficiently it is running. The old adage is: "unused ram is wasted ram". If your system is not performing as you would like or expect, please tell us EXACTLY what is slow and we'll see if we can figure out where the problem is.
Title: Re: Getting Rid of Startup Programs and Identifying what NOT to get rid of
Post by: marinasc on February 01, 2019, 08:56:14 PM
I would suggest doing a few things:

First, click on the start button and type: task scheduler. It might take a minute to open. Then click on Task Scheduler Library (the top folder not a sub folder). This will show all the Tasks or Processes that run. On the right side of this window, where the list is - delete all. DO NOT remove the sub folder or the items in them on left side. Close the window.

Second, click the start button and type msconfig. This shows everything that runs on your machine. Click on the startup tab. In windows 10 it will redirect you to the task manager, startup tab. This everything that automatically starts when your computer starts up. VERY CAREFULLY go through what's in here. Whatever you uncheck, when you reboot, won't run automatically. DO NOT uncheck any microsoft processes or drivers. 3rd party programs can be unchecked. But again be very careful what you uncheck here. Also look in the processes tab, click hide microsoft processes. Also be very careful here. Anything you uncheck will not run the next time you reboot.

You can also download and install something like WhySoSlow -- https://www.resplendence.com/whysoslow which can help you pinpoint any further trouble. It helps analyze any problems and I would also let it look at the event viewer and see what is happening there.

I would also suggest to make sure you're computer is up to date with latest drivers - both windows and drivers. Driver updates are always best to get from the manufacturer not Microsoft. A lot of manufacturers have their own update utility (Dell has a great one - Dell Command Update).