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Title: unable to detect hard drive
Post by: stallybanz on March 19, 2006, 05:14:48 PM
 :-? im having a problem with my MAXTOR 5200 RPM HDD drive, my pc is not able to detect the device, my master HDD is SEAGATE 7200 RPM, MAXTOR is set to slave, i tried swithing the HDD cables and also switching both HDD to slave and master but still it wont let detect the MAXTOR HDD, can anyone help me with this one??  :-?,,
Title: Re: unable to detect hard drive
Post by: GX1_Man on March 19, 2006, 05:18:24 PM
Was it working before? What happened? Any playing in the case before this started? They can just die, but usually there is some preface to that.

Is it detected in the BIOS? Or are you saying it cannot be seen in Windows? Any error messages?

More info needed.
Title: Re: unable to detect hard drive
Post by: stallybanz on March 19, 2006, 07:06:35 PM
yes it was working before, ive been using it for almost 3 years (MAXTOR), it is not detected on BIOS and also in windows, no error message found, in the first place i was able to but then suddenly it went off, i tried everything, settting the jumpers, changing cables, switching HDD ports, still no go,, any idea???
Title: Re: unable to detect hard drive
Post by: GX1_Man on March 19, 2006, 07:31:19 PM
Too many variable at once. Leave in only the suspect drive, jumper as Master, and make sure your cable is good.

Then try just the other drive with the same cable and jumpered as master.

The only possibilities are bad IDE port (doubtful), bad cable (possible) or dead drive (most likely).

Nothing had changed AT ALL before the drive stopped responding seems very important. Please confirm this, rather than you had just hooked it up in this configuration and it didn't work, etc.

All hard drives die eventually.

Title: Re: unable to detect hard drive
Post by: stallybanz on March 19, 2006, 07:49:33 PM
all the cables are good, cables a properly connected, jumpers a set accordingly, i did try everything, how i wish was able to save this one, i agree with you, hard disk might be busted, oh well what a waste, appreciate your help, tnx a lot bro,,  
Title: Re: unable to detect hard drive
Post by: ojas25 on March 19, 2006, 08:57:52 PM
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all the cables are good, cables a properly connected, jumpers a set accordingly, i did try everything, how i wish was able to save this one, i agree with you, hard disk might be busted, oh well what a waste, appreciate your help, tnx a lot bro,,  

Are you using a 80 strand or 40 strand cable, with hard drives  you should be using a 80 strand with one set to Master and the other to Slave? [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]
Title: Re: unable to detect hard drive
Post by: stallybanz on March 19, 2006, 10:46:40 PM
yes i am using 80 strand, wasnt able to salvage that HD,
Title: Re: unable to detect hard drive
Post by: gogsi on March 20, 2006, 08:32:50 AM
Did you try to attach your HDD (Maxtor)  to another PC to see if BIOS detects it ? If you have tried and the result is the same
maybe the logic of your HHD somehow has gone bad ? If that is the problem and you want to save the info. stored on your HDD
you need to replace the logic that has gone with a new one from exactly the same type of HDD like yours !
Title: Re: unable to detect hard drive
Post by: stallybanz on March 21, 2006, 08:07:16 PM
yes i did try using the MAXTOR from the other desktop computer but still it wont work, how can i replace the logic from my HD, and what do you mean LOGIC??? :-?
Title: Re: unable to detect hard drive
Post by: gogsi on March 22, 2006, 12:11:36 AM
Well it will be very difficult for me to explain you because in my language that thing is called "LOGIC"
but i will try anyway! When you take the HHD in your hands and turn it back there is plate with resistors , capacitors  and other elements ! It  usually has green color ! So that is the so called "logic"  and it could be damaged ! I hope you understood me because this is the best way i can explain it ! SORRY  :-/ I have not practise my English for years and now it is very difficult for me to explain things this !
Title: Re: unable to detect hard drive
Post by: stallybanz on March 22, 2006, 07:45:56 PM
alright i got it,, now how do i fix it then?? is it still replaceable?? it might be impossible for me to look for a replacement for this one,,
Title: Re: unable to detect hard drive
Post by: gogsi on March 22, 2006, 11:33:09 PM
First of all I am not perfectly sure that is the problem ! It might be something else but judging of what you told me it MUST be the
" LOGIC" !!!
You must know that all LOGICS are replaceable but it is not an easy work and i have only watched how others do it  :( and if you want to you must be extremely careful !!!!!!!!!
You must find a Hard Drive EXACTLY like yours ( a Drive that you DO NOT need and which LOGIC is operational) and remove
its LOGIC by unscrewing the screws attaching it to the body of the hard drive ! Be careful ! Different types of hard drives have
different attachment between LOGIC and the body of the hard drive ! What I mean is that there is a thin cable (usually) which transfers the signals from your HDD's LOGIC to the HDD's body and you MUST NOT damage it or everything is going bye bye !!!
You do the same with the old one ! Then you attach the  the new "LOGIC" of the other drive to your own which you want to fix !
And it must be working now  :)   !!!

PLEASE TAKE MY ADVICE !!!!!!!!!!!  First go to the nearest  TECH SUPPORT  SERVICE  with your PC and ask them to find out if that is
your problem !!!!!!!!!!!  JUST TO BE SURE  ;) . If you do not have the time or  $  to do this and there isn't  any LIFESAVING  
information on your HDD just  buy a new one and throw out the old one ! It will be cheaper for you I think  !!!!!!!!

PLEASE POST BACK WHAT HAPPEND !IT IS IMPORTANT I KNOW !!!!
And I hope I was useful for you !
Title: Re: unable to detect hard drive
Post by: stallybanz on March 22, 2006, 11:48:31 PM
alright,, i havent done this before,, as you said i need to bring the HDD to a nearest tech support to check it out and make sure,, ill inform you within the following day,,
Title: Re: unable to detect hard drive
Post by: Backdated on March 23, 2006, 04:02:08 PM
Unless the data on that drive is absolutely invaluable, forget it. A lifelong cocaine habit would be cheaper to finance! ;D