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Hardware => Hardware => Topic started by: delta-62 on September 15, 2006, 02:35:13 PM

Title: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: delta-62 on September 15, 2006, 02:35:13 PM
hello i would like some advice on upgrading my processor. the current processor is an AMD 2200+ Skt A (462). I would like to know if A) my board will support a AMD Athlon XP (yes that is skt A) and if it will B) support a faster sempron (eg 3000+ or something)  

I was going to over-clock it but for the price of a processor verses death for my PC i decided its about time i upgraded it.

I am also going to upgrade the power supply (PSU) to atleast a 300Watt ( please say if i will need a higher one)

My specs (according to sandra) are as follows:
SiSoftware Sandra

System
Host Name : (blanked out)
User : (blanked out)
Domain : (blanked out)

Processor
Model : AMD Sempron(tm)   2200+
Speed : 1.50GHz
Model Number : 2200 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR2169 (estimated)
Cores per Processor : 1 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s)
Internal Data Cache : 64kB Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way set, 64 byte line size
L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way set, 64 byte line size

Mainboard
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI IMB USB i2c/SMBus
MP Support : 1 Processor(s)
MP APIC : Yes
System BIOS : Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG
Mainboard : SiS-741
Total Memory : 512MB DDR-SDRAM

Chipset 1
Model : Elitegroup Computer Sys SiS741 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 166MHz (332MHz data rate)
Total Memory : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 166MHz (332MHz data rate)

Video System
Monitor/Panel : Plug and Play Monitor
Adapter : RADEON 9200 PRO Secondary (Omega 3.8.252)
Adapter : RADEON 9200 PRO (Omega 3.8.252)
Imaging Device : CanoScan LiDE 20/N670U/N676U #2
Imaging Device : USB PC Cam Zoom #4

Physical Storage Devices
Removable Drive : Floppy disk drive
Hard Disk : ExcelStor Technology J640 (38GB)
Hard Disk : QUANTUM FIREBALLlct20 10 (9.6GB)
CD-ROM/DVD : CDWRITER IDE5232 (CD 52X Rd, 52X Wr)
CD-ROM/DVD : SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-606F (CD 32X Rd) (DVD 4X Rd)

Logical Storage Devices
1.44MB 3.5" (A: ) : N/A
Hard Disk (C: ) : 38GB (9.8GB, 26% Free Space) (FAT32)
Backup (D: ) : 9.5GB (7.1GB, 74% Free Space) (FAT32)
CD-ROM/DVD (Q: ) : N/A
Halo (R: ) : 629MB (CDFS)

Peripherals
Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 1 COM / 1 LPT
USB Controller/Hub : SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : SiS PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Composite Device
Keyboard : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse : PS/2 Compatible Mouse
Human Interface : HID-compliant game controller
Human Interface : USB Human Interface Device

MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : Realtek AC'97 Audio

Printers and Faxes
Model : EPSON Stylus C62 Series

Power Management
AC Line Status : On-Line

Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Professional (Win32 x86) 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 2)

Network Services
Adapter : SiS 900-Based PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: Neil on September 15, 2006, 02:42:22 PM
10% of that information was useful... as to your question, I'll let someone more qualified answer it.

What is your graphics card? A card upgrade might give you more performance boost for your money.
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: Neil on September 15, 2006, 02:43:15 PM
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(see next post, the list is a bit big sry)

Yes please stop it is not useful!
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: delta-62 on September 15, 2006, 02:44:11 PM
lol sry, changed it to the much more... to the point, sandra
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: delta-62 on September 15, 2006, 02:45:30 PM
the graphics card is :

ATI Radeon 9250 (what an amazing card... not)

**EDIT**

also i know a better graphics card would probably be better but, i want to do the processor 1st its getting a tad... old ( bought when it came out and it was like ace back then lol)
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: honvetops on September 15, 2006, 02:52:26 PM
from the words of the G-MAN . Google is a beautiful thing ! Always try to research this "easy stuff" yourself, you will learn a whole lot more! Like me!!

http://www.cpu-world.com/Sockets/Socket%20462%20(Socket%20A).html

any ,more questions, just post below*.

Get a 500W dual voltage PSU at least, to be safe*.
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: delta-62 on September 15, 2006, 02:55:33 PM
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Get a 500W dual voltage PSU at least, to be safe*.


safe from what? lol naa just kiddin, i figured a 300w would do but was gonna go for a 400 maybe, dunno tho
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: honvetops on September 15, 2006, 02:58:19 PM
with upgrades and the over clocking thing u like to do, be safe and go for the 500, though  a GOOD  450  would also work I guess. It's a preference call on your part there. 300 is really kinda pushing it.
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: delta-62 on September 15, 2006, 03:02:41 PM
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over clocking thing u like to do.


naa gave up on overclocking, anything that can kill stuff so easily is a bit annoying


(wanna see sum1 push it? watch this:
http://hackedgadgets.com/2006/01/07/exploding-overclocking-extreme-amd-duron-vaporizing/

IT EXPLODES, not sure if its real tho)
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: honvetops on September 15, 2006, 03:06:09 PM
awesome!   never saw that before but kinda reminded me of the last meal my ex-wife made for me !!! :D
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: Neil on September 15, 2006, 03:09:29 PM
I have a computer with a much worse processor, but fitted it out with a decent graphics card, and now it can play most games fairly well.
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: delta-62 on September 15, 2006, 03:11:23 PM
in the spirit of things here is a USB barbeque (well sortof)

http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fxe.bz%2Faho%2F24%2F&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8

(pidgeon english translation lol)

but anyway back to the topic...

how about...

300W PSU and either a sempron 3000+ (or similar) or a Athlon XP 2800+ (or similar)

my friend says it should work but you know what they say about things that start with "My Mate Says..."
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: Neil on September 15, 2006, 03:17:14 PM
I think the Athlon XP would be faster.
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: delta-62 on September 15, 2006, 03:20:06 PM
me too but the fear is breaking something (seriously i have the worst luck IN THE WORLD with this sort of thing... *puts on hard hat lol*)

hmm ok with that PSU? tryin to do this to a budget really lol you know what lifes like...




(I'm really angry too because some kid i know in canada has a PC which is like $6000 or so and hes 14 omg he doesnt even work!)
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: delta-62 on September 15, 2006, 03:23:15 PM
PS im gonna go to sleep now (im british so its 10:20 pm, i have a headache, feel ill, sore eyes etc etc *censored* that fool that coughed on me)

ill check any posts ASAP in the morning
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: GX1_Man on September 15, 2006, 08:11:02 PM
You guys are wasting bandwidth.  ::)

What is the motherboard make and model?

Yes, 300w is not enough.
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: delta-62 on September 16, 2006, 12:46:15 AM
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Mainboard
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI IMB USB i2c/SMBus
MP Support : 1 Processor(s)
MP APIC : Yes
System BIOS : Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG
Mainboard : SiS-741
Total Memory : 512MB DDR-SDRAM

Chipset 1
Model : Elitegroup Computer Sys SiS741 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 166MHz (332MHz data rate)
Total Memory : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 166MHz (332MHz data rate)



P.S. what about with the sempron? would it be ok then? or have i gotta go for like 400W either way?

If you need more than that i can A) give you it from CPU-Z or B) try and look inside it (i really cant see the model although it is 100% SiS (it has that on it yet no model number... weird huh?))

also what sort of performance increase would i get if i put more ram in? (1GB or something)
Title: Re: upgrading processor / need help
Post by: Neil on September 16, 2006, 08:41:06 AM
I don't think extra ram would give much of a boost considering the rest of your system.

http://www.infotechshop.co.uk/products.asp?partno=graphics-pny-GF_FX5500agp

This graphics card needs only a 250w power supply, and costs about £30. I suspect it's faster than your current card, but I don't know for sure.