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Hardware => Hardware => Topic started by: LOTUS1324 on May 27, 2007, 07:47:10 AM

Title: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on May 27, 2007, 07:47:10 AM
HELLO, CAN I REPLACE AN INTEL PENTIUM 4 1.8GHZ CPU 478-PIN WITH A Intel Celeron D 478 PIN? THX TO ALL .
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: Perfect Agent52 on May 27, 2007, 09:30:30 AM
Sure, just as long as the comp you have now is compatible with it.
Specs would be nice please, and all caps is not needed.
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: Calum on May 27, 2007, 10:38:25 AM
Sure, just as long as the comp you have now is compatible with it.
Specs would be nice please, and all caps is not needed.
What he said.
Make sure your motherboard supports it.
Also, think about this upgrade, is this Celeron D actually faster than your P4?
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: GX1_Man on May 27, 2007, 11:25:04 AM
What they said.

It is not all about clock speed.  ;)
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on May 27, 2007, 03:09:09 PM
Sure thing thanx. Here are the specs .
Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (build 2600)     
Gateway E-2000 4000792
System Serial Number: 0028424805
Chassis Serial Number: 0028424805
Enclosure Type: Desktop
Processor a         Main Circuit Board b
1.80 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4
8 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache         
Board: Intel Corporation D845GRG AAA86577-300
Serial Number: ABRG23407911
Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
BIOS: Intel Corp. RG84510A.15A.0018.P08.0208171150 08/17/2002
Drives         Memory Modules c,d
370.03 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
223.46 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on May 27, 2007, 03:39:50 PM
Any luck gentlemen?
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: GX1_Man on May 27, 2007, 04:06:18 PM
Google found the answer is 0.823 seconds:

http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/rg/


Support for an Intel® Pentium® 4 processor in a µPGA478 socket with a 400/533 MHz system bus

Support for an Intel® Celeron® processor in a µPGA478 socket with a 400 MHz system bus

Whar were you planning on putting in there?
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on May 27, 2007, 04:17:22 PM
I am planning to put a  Intel Celeron D 478 PIN. Is that acceptable?
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on May 27, 2007, 04:19:10 PM
Well this one to be exact,
Model: Intel Celeron D
Core: Prescott
Operating Frequency: 2.40GHz
FSB: 533MHz
Cache: L1/12K+16K; L2/256K
Process: 90 nm
Socket: Socket 478

If compatible would it be a big difference in speed?
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on May 27, 2007, 05:06:49 PM
??
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: GX1_Man on May 27, 2007, 07:45:15 PM
You are trading some level 2 cache and other differences for a marginal increase in clock speed. If gaming is the issue, this may not be the solution. It may work, but it may or may not be worth the expense if it does.

Did you read what it said about the Celeron with a 400 Mhz. bus?

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Support for an Intel® Celeron® processor in a µPGA478 socket with a 400 MHz system bus
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: Calum on May 28, 2007, 04:06:08 AM
Celeron and Celeron D are not the same.
Besides, this upgrade would not make a big difference, the P4 not only has more cache but is a better design, so is faster at the same clock speed.
It would be a little faster, but not worth spending money on.
If you want an upgrade, buy a new motherboard, that's my advice.
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on June 01, 2007, 09:51:47 PM
Thx to all for your replies. I will look into a new mother board/ I will ask for sugeestions on a dual core when the money is right . goodnight.
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on June 02, 2007, 07:12:27 AM
How about this one fellas?
Intel Pentium 4 Processor 2.40 GHz WITH HYPER-THREADING
478 pin
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
L2 Cache: 512 KB
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LtRyan5184 on June 02, 2007, 11:33:19 AM
A pentium 4 with H/T is alot better than a celeron D, Although its newer celeron D dosent have dual cores or two threads
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: Calum on June 03, 2007, 05:34:15 AM
Yes, that is faster than either your current CPU or the Celeron.
Again, I recommend a new motherboard instead, it's probably not worth the cash to buy this CPU.
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on June 03, 2007, 10:00:36 AM
My question is can i put this chip into my board.
Intel Pentium 4 Processor 2.40 GHz WITH HYPER-THREADING
478 pin
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
L2 Cache: 512 KB

Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on June 03, 2007, 10:01:56 AM
i know someone that is selling it to me for 25 dollars.
will it be compatible with my board will i need a heat sink and what not?
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: Calum on June 03, 2007, 11:55:47 AM
It is still not worth it.
Just save the $25 towards a new motherboard etc.
Yes, it will work in your current board.
No, it's not worth it.
And as for your heatsink, I'm not sure, hopefully someone else will know.
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on June 03, 2007, 12:01:04 PM
sure thing thx for the advice.
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on June 03, 2007, 01:56:28 PM
I am now taking your advice about a new board and what not. What do you gentlemen think about these few things.
One Asus P5N32 SLI Delux Motherboard

One Pentium D 840 Smithfield 3.2Ghz dual core processor with factory heatsink

One Aspire 680W Power Supply Unit
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: Calum on June 03, 2007, 02:12:29 PM
Seems pretty good, but what's your budget overall?
The Pentium D series is limited now.
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on June 03, 2007, 02:17:44 PM
It's just a fathers day budget for now about $250. Some guy is selling these specs for 200. I might bring him down 30-40 bucks or so.What do you mean by limited?
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: Calum on June 03, 2007, 02:36:45 PM
I mean it's a fairly good CPU, but not by the standards of the newest ones.
It'd be a good upgrade though, and if you can get it for $200 or less it's still worth it, you won't find much better for that price.
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on June 03, 2007, 02:58:37 PM
Thx alot for yur help.
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: Calum on June 04, 2007, 02:48:53 AM
You're welcome.
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on June 06, 2007, 08:05:33 PM
In the meantime time this cpu that i was telling you about (calum) or anyone that can assist. The p4 2.4ghz ht that it is here in the previous posting, to put that one in do i have to flash the bios or anything of that nature for it to work? Or i can just replace it with the old one and the pc will detect it?
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: Calum on June 07, 2007, 03:05:07 AM
You should just be able to replace it and it will work with the motherboard, not too sure about the heatsink though.
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on June 07, 2007, 12:52:10 PM
Ok, thx. What will happen if the heatsink i have doesnt work for it? Will i need to add a new layer of thermal compound if it doesnt? Or better off getting a new heatsink for the cpu? Does it have to be compatible with the mother board or with the cpu? I believe the cpu. Sorry for all the questions and thx for your help once again.
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on June 07, 2007, 01:05:47 PM
What a bummer look what i found.
http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/rg/rg_proc.htm
It does not seem to support this
Intel Pentium 4 Processor 2.40 GHz WITH HYPER-THREADING
478 pin
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
L2 Cache: 512 KB
Which has a bigger bus speed. Am i correct?
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on June 07, 2007, 06:14:46 PM
??
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: Calum on June 08, 2007, 03:16:42 AM
Indeed it doesn't support it.
I thought you were getting a new board?
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: LOTUS1324 on June 08, 2007, 07:56:25 PM
Well, that leaves me no choice. I will indeed buy a new mother board and everything else. Once again thank you for your tech support, you have been of great help.
Title: Re: CPU
Post by: Calum on June 09, 2007, 04:28:03 AM
You're welcome, if you have any more questions then post back.