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Title: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Broni on January 08, 2008, 04:58:32 PM
There were 6 today's updates for Vista. All of them installed nicely, except for KB943411 - failed to install.
I tried to download it, and manually install it. Same thing.
Anyone of you having same problem?
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: CBMatt on January 08, 2008, 05:29:15 PM
I'm not exactly well-versed in Vista, but do you have your Sidebar disabled?  Perhaps that could be preventing the update from installing.  Not much information is available about this hotfix yet, so that's about the only thing I can think of at the moment.
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Broni on January 08, 2008, 05:42:20 PM
Great Chris!
I had it disabled. I turned it on, and update installed.
Thanks, man.
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Broni on January 08, 2008, 05:50:57 PM
Your solution is in Google already...

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Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Broni on January 08, 2008, 06:06:52 PM
Not that easy, though, I guess.
The update installed, it's listed as installed, so I disabled Sidebar again, but after restart in Windows Updates it's listed as ready to install again.
Hmmmm....
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: CBMatt on January 09, 2008, 02:25:27 AM
What happens if you try to install it again?
And did you restart while Sidebar was still enabled?  This could make a difference.

We might just have to wait a few days for more information to become available.  It usually doesn't take long for people to start having difficulties with the latest hotfixes.

If all else fails, I suppose you could simply tell Windows Updater to ignore the update since you don't really use Sidebar anyway.
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Perfect Agent52 on January 09, 2008, 09:34:38 AM
If you just hide the sidebar, then your update should be fine. I just hid the sidebar when I first saw this annoying tool.

Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Broni on January 09, 2008, 07:43:17 PM
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What happens if you try to install it again?
And did you restart while Sidebar was still enabled?
That was the next thing, I tried. It said, installed OK, please restart (I configured Sidebar to start with Windows).
After restart, Windows was configuring the update, and then it said, that installation was not successful.

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I suppose you could simply tell Windows Updater to ignore the update since you don't really use Sidebar anyway
I'd love to do it, but I can't see such an option in Vista's Updater.
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Broni on January 09, 2008, 07:46:23 PM
I can already see some posts on Google, but not solution, yet.
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: patio on January 09, 2008, 08:07:06 PM
Have you tried installing it with your protection apps shut off ? ?
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: patio on January 09, 2008, 08:16:23 PM
Broni i have visited 7 different Forums with no luck on this issue...

Although there was one user who managed to get it to install by first un-installing Comodo.
Sounds a bit drastic but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do...

MS has been completely silent on this issue so far.
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Broni on January 09, 2008, 10:21:49 PM
Thanks patio for looking.
I'd rather live with it for a while, then rip off Comodo just for one update.
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: dairyman on January 10, 2008, 12:36:49 AM
If you want to hide the update, Tech-Recipes has a how-to on how to hide an update.

Here. (http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2046/vista_update_how_to_hide_update)
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: dairyman on January 10, 2008, 12:41:37 AM
Wait!!

Is that Comodo Firewall Pro 3 by any chance?
I noticed Defense+ has some problems with Windows Update...
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Broni on January 10, 2008, 06:31:12 PM
No dice, dairyman.
I disabled Comodo Pro 3 Defense, but it didn't make any difference.
With Sidebar closed, it won't install at all.
With Sidebar open, it says "installed", but after reboot, it says "fail".
I'll do more googling later.
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: dairyman on January 10, 2008, 06:54:19 PM
Should have said this earlier...

Even though Defense+ is disabled, "My Pending Files" will still be enabled. Look in the list of pending files and check for files in the "softwaredistrubution" folder.
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Broni on January 10, 2008, 08:16:51 PM
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Look in the list of pending files and check for files in the "softwaredistrubution" folder.
What exactly am I looking for, there? I have quiet a bunch there.
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: dairyman on January 10, 2008, 08:31:45 PM
Sorry about the last post. What I was ment to say was, in the "My Pending Files", look for pending files that belong in the "softwaredistribution" folder.

Close that folder, open up Comodo Firewall 3 and click on the link that says "waiting for your review". There should be quite a few files there.

Look at the picture I attached. The entry with the red box around it is a file which belongs to a certain update. If you notice an entry similar to this, tick it, click on Move To, and click on My Own Safe Files. Make sure you tick all entries related to this.

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Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Broni on January 10, 2008, 08:50:47 PM
In "My Pending Files", I have a bunch of files in the "softwaredistribution" folder, but they're all listed as "modified". Then, what particular file am I looking for?

I can't see any "waiting for your review" link.

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Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: dairyman on January 10, 2008, 09:00:39 PM
Choose the entries listed as New / Modified, click on Move To, and click on My Own Safe Files. Does it install now?

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Click on 'Status' near the top of the 'My Pending Files' window to show all entries that are New or New / Modified.
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Broni on January 10, 2008, 09:13:32 PM
All files, not only in softwaredistribution" folder are either new, or modified. Should I move them all?
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: dairyman on January 10, 2008, 09:16:04 PM
Go ahead and move them to safe files. After all, you are the malware removal specialist, there shouldn't be any malware entries in there.
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Broni on January 10, 2008, 09:27:27 PM
LOL....Let me try...
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Broni on January 10, 2008, 09:33:06 PM
It didn't work, because most files were already there.
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: dairyman on January 10, 2008, 09:41:10 PM
Download the update from HERE (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a7bb4622-fb21-4769-b29a-7fc7a07d182a&displaylang=en). After it has finished downloading, disconnect from the internet, exit COMODO Firewall Pro 3 by clicking on it's icon in the system tray and choosing Exit, and try to install the update. Did it install this time?
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install - resolved
Post by: Broni on January 10, 2008, 09:56:17 PM
I found the solution here: http://forums.comodo.com/help_for_v3/windows_update_fails_with_comodo_merged_threads-t16987.60.html
post #68:

TEMPORARY FIX 2 :
0 - Open Comodo
1 - Go to Defense+->Advanced->Defense+ Settings and select "Deactivate Defense+ PErmanently" option
2 - Restart your computer and retry the updates.
3 - After the updates are completed, reacrtivate the Defense+ and restart your computer.

NOTE
1. Update KB943411 installed right away without rebooting the computer.
2. Sidebar didn't have to be open, nor running.
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: CBMatt on January 11, 2008, 04:29:24 AM
Huzzah, I'm glad you got it all sorted out.  That'll be a good fix to remember in case anyone comes here with that problem.  Kudos on your find.
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Broni on January 11, 2008, 11:42:14 AM
Sorry for all kind of misspelling. It came from the quote's author
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: patio on January 12, 2008, 09:06:55 AM
Broni...Here's Your Fix (http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/download_firewall.html?currency=USD&region=North%20America&country=US)
Title: Re: Vista - update KB943411 won't install
Post by: Broni on January 12, 2008, 11:17:13 AM
Thanks, patio...
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Fixed the bug causing Windows Updates to fail in Windows Vista
I'm on it.