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Title: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 02, 2008, 05:18:34 AM
I got my gaming pc up an runing again but it wont see the drive the first time I booted.  So since I changed the MB I thought about just formating them.  Thing is these are "MAXTOR DRIVES" so I went to use Maxblast since that how I do mostly all my drives.  Also, since most are maxtor.  It came up saing that it couldnt find any ATA drives or any at all, once I got in.  But it seen that I had one that wasnt being used as my boot drive an not part of the system.  So I dont now since this is usually how I setup my drives. 
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 02, 2008, 07:23:33 AM
Now I'm missing 11 mb on drive E?  Some reason XP labeled as that an wants to know if I want to format it.
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 02, 2008, 05:19:05 PM
Hello????
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: Aegis on April 02, 2008, 07:30:38 PM
How old are the physical drives, roughly?

Weren't there different cluster / sector formats some years ago?  LBA?  I can't remember...

Also, my feeble brain wonders what file format they are?  FAT16?  FAT32? 

I'm no spring chicken, anymore...more like a year-round turkey...  ;)
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 03, 2008, 05:35:29 AM
The 320 is about three mounths the 160 is roughtly about 1 year.  NTFS.  You see many strange things in the woods, I dont hunt but a chicken to a turkey? 
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: Spoiler on April 03, 2008, 08:17:03 AM
What version of Windows are you running?

Just wondering....why did you use Maxblast?

Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 03, 2008, 04:13:39 PM
Thats how I format all my drives, mostly being that there Maxtor an Western Digital.  Window Xp
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 04, 2008, 02:00:06 PM
???????
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: dahlarbear on April 05, 2008, 10:09:24 AM
1. Objective Unclear.  Operating System installation?
I got my gaming pc up an runing again but it wont see the drive the first time I booted.  So since I changed the MB I thought about just formating them.

Not sure where you started, where you are at, or where you are going with this.

It sounds like you swapped motherboard and tried to run from previously built operating system (Windows XP?).  Seems like the BIOS would have to see the drive before you could even hope to boot from it.  The drive does not need to be formatted for the BIOS to see it (although the jumpers and cabling needs to be correct).  So let's start there.  Also if you changed motherboard type, you probably need to reinstall Windows XP.

2.  Motherboard.  Make and Model number of motherboard (and which processor?).

3.  Maxtor Drives.  You have two Maxtor drives, one 160 GB, the other 320 GB.  Are they Serial ATA (SATA) or Parallel ATA (PATA) interfaces? What are their model numbers?

4.  Operating System CD.  What type of Installation CD will you be using?
Windows XP? Home Edition or Professional?  Original, Service Pack 1 (SP1),
SP2, or SP3 (is it available yet)?

Retail version (Full or Upgrade)?  OEM version (Dell, Gateway, other)?  Corporate Volume License version?

Legitimate CD or the "Brotherhood of the Coast" version?
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 05, 2008, 12:54:14 PM
The bios sees the drives, yes I did change the board. Yes I did reinstall XP then. 

Mother Board Intel SE7210TP1-E Socket 478 Pent 4 2.8 GHZ

Maxtor DiamondMax 21 320 GB 9QF8FY6D

Windows XP Professional

What????????
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 06, 2008, 03:17:42 AM
 ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 07, 2008, 03:41:52 AM
Any ideas???
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: dahlarbear on April 07, 2008, 06:59:03 AM
1.  Comment.  You're not working with a "mainstream" configuration.  Do you know of anyone else who has put Windows XP Professional (SP2?) onto your server motherboard?  The only Windows XP operating system reference I saw for your motherboard said "Windows XP Professional (SP1 only)"; but it was dated August 2005 I believe.

2.  Wont see the drive.
I got my gaming pc up an runing again but it wont see the drive the first time I booted.  So since I changed the MB I thought about just formating them.  Thing is these are "MAXTOR DRIVES" so I went to use Maxblast since that how I do mostly all my drives.  Also, since most are maxtor.  It came up saing that it couldnt find any ATA drives or any at all, once I got in.  But it seen that I had one that wasnt being used as my boot drive an not part of the system.  So I dont now since this is usually how I setup my drives. 

You said you weren't able to see the drive (from Maxblast).  I would remove all hard drives except the one you want to build Windows XP Professional on.  Then I would configure the system and BIOS for a single hard drive configuration.  If SATA, I would check the Maxtor 320 GB drive to see if there are jumpers to downgrade it to 1.5 GB/s throughput (to match motherboard capability).  If PATA, I would make sure I got the "jumpers" correct (master/slave/single?).  Then I would crawl through the BIOS  paying particular attention to the IDE/SATA configuration options.

If single SATA drive, I believe you want to disable "SATA RAID", and somehow get it configured on "first" channel (assuming that's where BIOS wants to boot from).

Maybe check "MaxBlast" to see if it can access SATA drive.

Second option would be to format the hard drive during the installation of Windows XP Professional.

Basically I would play with the BIOS settings until either MaxBlast or Windows XP CD can access the hard drive.

I didn't see your hard drive listed as one that's compatible with the motherboard; also  SATA drives appear to be non-functioning (http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/sb/CS-021230.htm)


3.  Motherboard - Intel® Entry Server Board SE7210TP1-E
    o  Support (http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/se7210tp1-e/)
    o  Technical Product Specification (http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/se7210tp1-e/sb/cs-008319.htm)
    o  Users Guide (http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=54352.0;num_replies=11#top)
    o  Tested Hardware and Operating System List, Revision 1.35 (http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/se7210tp1-e/sb/tpthol135.pdf)


4.  BIOS.
    o  What version, date, and ID?
    o  Do you have latest BIOS?
    o  Have you disabled "SATA RAID"?


5.  Processor.  Socket 478 Pent 4 2.8 GHZ.  Which one?  System Bus (400/533 MHz, 533 MHz, or 800 MHz)?  L2 Cache Size (512 KB or 1 MB)?


6.  Hard Drive.  Unable to find your hard disk Maxtor DiamondMAX 21 (http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/desktops/diamondmax/diamondmax_21/) using "Maxtor" model number "9QF8FY6D".  Only see them with Seagate model numbers:

    o  STM3320620AS (SATA)
    o  STM3320820AS (SATA)

    o  STM3320620A  (Ultra ATA/100)
    o  STM3330820A  (Ultra ATA/100)

So can you tell me whether you're using a Serial ATA (SATA) or Parallel (PATA) interface with your drive and motherboard?

If you're using SATA you might have to jumper the interface (on the hard drive) down to 1.5 GBps from 3.0 GBps if your motherboard doesn't support the faster speed (and I don't believe it does - see Section 3.2.9 of the Technical Product Spec).

Quote
3.2.9  Serial ATA (SATA) Controller

The SATA controller supports two SATA devices providing an interface for SATA hard disks and ATAPI devices.  The SATA interface supports PIO IDE transfers up to 16 Mb/s and Serial ATA transfers up to 1.5 Gb/s (150 MB/s).  The 6300ESB I/O's SATA system contains two independent SATA signal ports.  They can be electrically isolated independently.  Each SATA device can have independent timings.  They can be configured to the standard primary and secondary channels.


7.  Memory.  What memory are you using?  Does it match the specs of exceptable memory in the Technical Product Specification?


8.  Power Supply
NOTE
Use only ATX12V or EPS12V compliant power supplies with the server board SE7210TP1-E.  ATX12V and EPS12V power supplies have an additional power lead that provides required supplemental power for the Intel Pentium 4 processor.  The board will not boot if you do not connect the 20-pin (or 24-pin) and 4-pin (or 8-pin) leads of ATX12V or EPS12V power supplies to the corresponding connectors.

Do not use a standard ATX power supply.  The board will not boot with a standard ATX power supply.


9.  Operating System.  Windows XP Professional.  Original, Service Pack 1 (SP1), SP2, or SP3 (is it available yet)?
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: Spoiler on April 07, 2008, 11:37:53 AM
What version of MAxblast are you running? This may help...

http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=MaxBlast_5&vgnextoid=7add8b9c4a8ff010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD

Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 08, 2008, 09:30:44 AM
I'm going to try maxtor site if I dont have to work or asap.  I dont use one single maxblast ver, it should just show up cause I have 2,3,4,5 Maxblast ver.  Sorry that your post is long an like to try maxtor first if possible.
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: patio on April 08, 2008, 10:18:51 AM
MaxBlast software should only be used for Maxtor drives.
You should only be using the latest version.
Maxtor has been bought by Seagate so if these drives are newer you should be using the Seagate software.

But we've been through all of this before and it seems like about every 3 months it starts all over again.
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 09, 2008, 05:33:14 AM
Differnt problems an issues.
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: patio on April 09, 2008, 09:14:23 AM
If you insist.
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 09, 2008, 02:54:59 PM
Heres something new okay I put in norton so that it could do a memory scan cause I couldnt find the link PAtio usually puts up for it.  So now it locks up right in the logo before the post, I have to force it to the BIOS an for it to post, then it ends up stopping an wont go into windows.  It doesnt even boot to the cd drive.
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: dahlarbear on April 09, 2008, 03:43:37 PM
1.  Memory.  You can test the system memory using "MemTest86" located at www.memtest86.com (http://www.memtest86.com).  Follow the "Free Download" link on their website and read the documentation on how to use the program.

Of course you need the system to POST before you'll be able to run it.  Does the system successfully POST?

2.  Locks Up.  Do you know about "thermal paste" (or something equivalent) that's placed between processor and heatsink to facilitate heat flow from processor?
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 09, 2008, 03:52:48 PM
I have it know thanks to Patio.  I'm not going to take off my heatsink, yes I do have the pastey stuff on there.
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 11, 2008, 06:18:00 AM
I'm going to see if connecting an IDE drive wont help.
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 11, 2008, 07:27:44 AM
An error cam up that I noticed when enter the BIOS , Primary Master DRive - ATAPI incompatible.  So I disabled the DVD Drive ened up haveing to unplug it.  It works okay an boots into windows but the HD still have the problem an the IDE still sees it.  So I ran Norton an I told it to scan the pc but I dont know if it did the RAM but it didnt find anything. 
Title: Re: Maxtor Unformateable Drives Maxtor Brand??
Post by: squall_01 on April 13, 2008, 04:57:12 AM
Do it scan the RAM as well when I tell it to scan the pc.  Or is it a seperate command?