Computer Hope
Microsoft => Microsoft Windows => Windows Vista and 7 => Topic started by: ChrisXPPro on September 08, 2008, 05:40:36 PM
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Probable memory lapse here - <changes self to 'senile' label!).
I am sure way back I managed on last PC to set things up so my default listing display in ''save'', ''save as'' or ''open'' was 'details - last modified'. Very often I want to see my last save and most recent file ..... and not have to select 'details' then punch the 'last modified' top bar!!
Any thoughts? I can't remember if and how!
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Wait a sec. I even don't understand what you're saying.
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Let me try again! ;)
If I go to save, save as or open a file - the listing of existing files is either default alpha-numeric - or on occasions random. So it might start at ''a'' and on thru ''z'' etc .... folders first then files.
If I use the icon "view menu" I can select "thumbnails", "tiles', ''icons'', "list" or ''details''. I am sure I used to have a way to set default so it showed as ''details'' every time ... and with ''last modified'' showing first. Right now i have to go thru setting this up every time I go to save, open etc.
In Win Explorer if this was used in a folder it'll hold that option for the next viewing.
I often need to see my files in date order rather than name and so a default I choose that will enable this every time is useful.
If still no idea what I am rambling on about - no sweat - it's hardly life-threatening! :) But I am just frustrated as I am sure I used to set this up as a chosen default!
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If I go to save, save as or open a file - the listing of existing files is either default alpha-numeric
Where? I'm really trying to understand...LOL
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Oh dear!!! :P
OK - let's imagine you have written a small txt file - you go to ''save as'' - what do you see?
I see a listing of folders and files which are usually (if lucky) an ordered list according to alpha-numeric. ''A-file.txt'' will appear first and maybe ''zulu.txt'' will appear last - if I scroll across or down.
However - as I might often be wishing to save repeats of a new file - like ''newfile-01.txt - then newfile-02.txt etc ... it helps if I see my files listing as I want - which is the first to show being the ''last modified'' - and so I select it - change the 01 to 02 and off I go again! (lazy approach).
I also often want only to see my last save - so again the ''last modified'' showing as default is desirable - without having to make selections specially.
Don't worry - I might post a coupla screen grabs later to try and explain better.
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C'mmon, Chris, you know better than this:
OK - let's imagine you have written a small txt file - you go to ''save as'' - what do you see?
In what program? Every program is different.
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In what program? Every program is different.
<sigh> :D - yeah I know but - for any given app' - files might show for horizontal scroll - vertical scoll - that doesn't matter... it's what files show first!!! I don't want the folders or files beginmning with ''a'' to show top of list - I want (without having to set it up - cos am lazy!) - to see last modifed by default!
Don't worry - I will try tomorrow maybe to post a coupla grabs - one with default display and one with what I want to make my default.
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OK, this is "Save As" window from Wordpad, and I can't see any list of files:
(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p4130943.gif)
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OK, this is "Save As" window from Wordpad, and I can't see any list of files:
(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p4130943.gif)
Look at his name Broni:
ChrisXPPro
over 90% of save dialog boxes in XP use the GetOpenFileName() API function to display the common dialog to which I'm sure he refers.
Windows Vista uses a separate paradigm called Common Item dialogs or something with an equally generic name,
I honestly looked into this, since I was getting really annoyed since it kept default to icons for some reason.
The thing is- I'm not sure if there is a registry setting for this that will apply to all of the programs that use it. If not it would be necessary to somehow subclass the dialog and set the listview style to Details- in addition to messing with the columnheaders...
I think I'll look into this, I have a feeling their likely is a registry setting that might help with this.
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Hmmm - could be that I am using Windows Classic for my set up. This must be confusing the issue - sorry - had not considered the (yuk) XP 'look'..
I hate XP visuals - and so am set up looking pretty much like Win 2k.
OK - here are grabs from an old folder ........ so - folders appear first in listing - then alpha numeric listing of files. From the top right icon I can elect to show details - and then will see as second pic - with option to select the ''date modified". I am wanting to keep that setting as a default.
Sorry about confusion - you gotta think back to the look of '98 and Win 2k ..... should have specified this.
BC_ - see you just posted - yes I would expect a setting to be app specific and - sure I used to have a way to do it!!
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OK, this?
(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p4130991.gif)
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Well yeah - but my version! :)
The top right icon - get a list of files - not just folders - and select ''details'' and then punch the ''date modified'' bar - twice actually to bring latest file to top.
That is what I want to set as default.
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Got ya now....Let's see, if we can do something about it.
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For now, I found out, that the sort order is controlled by ShellState key in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer
Default hex value of that key is:
24,00,00,00,33,80,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,0d,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
but that's probably as far as I'm able to go, unless I'll find some more info.
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The above is from XP. In my Vista, numbers are little bit different:
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I think, I found something: http://www.computorcompanion.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=162
go into Windows Explorer and open a folder such as My Documents. Now choose View|Details. Along the top of the file listing area, you see Name, Type, Size, Modified. If you click any one of these, it will change how your files are sorted in the list. For example, you click Modified to sort your files by the date they were modified.
Now...here's the part that made Windows save this sorting information everywhere. Hold down the Ctrl key and click the X in the upper right-hand corner of the Window to close it. Now whenever you run a Windows application that uses the File Open, Save, or Save As dialog boxes, the files are listed in Date Modified order rather than Alphabetically.
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Broni - many thx for your attention and research ........ now you mention the ctrl+close move, I remember that from the past.
I seem to recall that is never seemed to work but I tried it just now on a couple of save and open dialog boxes, in hopes - and again - it failed! :( This was following a fresh boot too.
Oh well - puzzling ...... seems I might be SOL unless there is something else. The string you found in registry is hard to interpret and so equally hard to see how to make any safe or useful tweak.
Thx again tho - much appreciated. :) I'll keep looking.
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I hoped, it was gonna work...hmmmmm
I'm not any good with hex codes, so maybe someone else with a knowledge in that department will chime in.
On second thought, regarding that hex code, you may try to post at: http://discussions.virtualdr.com/index.php. Mention my name, and ask for help from SpywareDr. He's really good at it.
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Thx broni - right now, having registered - the next page is not finishing loading!! A refresh seemed to help.
I'll make a post there.
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Let me know :)
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My post there is - http://discussions.virtualdr.com/showthread.php?p=1241108#post1241108