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Microsoft => Microsoft DOS => Topic started by: squall_01 on February 10, 2009, 11:14:48 AM

Title: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: squall_01 on February 10, 2009, 11:14:48 AM
I'm tring to install dos to a blank drive I low level formated it.  The thing is I have a book that mentions how, but then it talks about ms-dos an whats supposed to show up isnt.  I'm useing a 4.3 gb drive an max of the amount of ram needed +
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: Geek-9pm on February 10, 2009, 11:21:01 AM
MS DOS or DOS 6.22 expect you to have a small about of memory
and a small Hard Disk Drive.
Try 32MB or RAM and
a single FAT26 disk partition of about 120 MB.
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: squall_01 on February 10, 2009, 11:27:11 AM
i can make the ram about 64mb an I have a 2 gb drive that I can change over.
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: BC_Programmer on February 10, 2009, 11:31:46 AM
MS-DOS can run on any memory configuration and any HD configuration (except SATA), you will just be unable to create partitions larger then 2GB due to the limitations of FAT16.

Since DOS itself only uses the 640K of conventional and perhaps some of the HMA, the amount of RAM installed is completely dependent on the other applications one wishes to run. For example, Windows 3.1 can use up to 512MB of RAM(I believe some may not be detected actually), which means that the limitations become purely based in it's lack of "selectors" or handles into that memory.

Squall- WHY do you insist on low-level formatting? It erases all the Servo information about bad sectors and so forth, which means your OS will need to "rediscover" the bad sectors. Unless of course your not really low level formatting.


I really love your detail- "what's supposed to show up isn't" and yet you make no mention of either what is supposed to show up, what is showing up, OR the book your using.
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: squall_01 on February 10, 2009, 11:34:54 AM
cause i dont recall off hand.  i knew that.  I'm not getting the install screen,
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: Dias de verano on February 10, 2009, 12:55:33 PM
cause i dont recall off hand

Why do you expect us to help you, if you can't be bothered to provide basic information?
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: BC_Programmer on February 10, 2009, 12:59:10 PM
cause i dont recall off hand.  i knew that.  I'm not getting the install screen,

What install screen? Are you using DOS floppies? Are you inserting the right disk, or could you even be bothered to label them?

If you downloaded the MS-DOS 6.22 Step-up files it's not going to work.
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: On40 on February 11, 2009, 12:51:01 AM
Just download Microsoft Virtual Pc, its easier and you can mess it up wihout stuffing up your real computer.
Get some floppy image with Dos then and put it in.
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: BC_Programmer on February 11, 2009, 01:00:20 AM
I believe Squall is trying to install DOS onto his 486.
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on February 11, 2009, 01:52:53 AM
Recently, Squall asked for a download link to MS DOS 6.22.

It seems he has successfully found a place to illegally download it.
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: BC_Programmer on February 11, 2009, 02:01:48 AM
Recently, Squall asked for a download link to MS DOS 6.22.

It seems he has successfully found a place to illegally download it.

That's what I was thinking. But the question is, is it that which precludes us helping him or his lack of enunciation of his problems?  ;D
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: squall_01 on February 11, 2009, 09:59:42 AM
not really i downloaded like 6.21 from microsoft.  That is what I am attempting to do but issues with it.  Mite try another machine.  Look I have classes till six from elevn so if I forget some of the time I'm sorry kay.
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: BC_Programmer on February 11, 2009, 10:21:30 AM
not really i downloaded like 6.21 from microsoft

The only DOS files Microsoft has for download are the Step-up files mentioned previously. This is why you aren't getting the setup screen.

Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: squall_01 on February 11, 2009, 11:00:57 AM
i see if I installed like 2k would I be able to like update iut to the 6.22 version?
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: Dias de verano on February 11, 2009, 11:12:24 AM
like... like... like...  ::)
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: squall_01 on February 11, 2009, 11:24:47 AM
 ??? ???
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: Dias de verano on February 11, 2009, 11:41:35 AM
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i see if I installed like 2k would I be able to like update iut to the 6.22 version?

1. What purpose does the word 'like' serve in that sentence?

2. What does "like 2k" mean?



Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: BC_Programmer on February 11, 2009, 11:46:02 AM
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i see if I installed like 2k would I be able to like update iut to the 6.22 version?

1. What purpose does the word 'like' serve in that sentence?

2. What does "like 2k" mean?



answers!

1. every phrase Squall says MUST be a simile.

2. who knows?


i see if I installed like 2k would I be able to like update iut to the 6.22 version?
No. Windows NT command prompt <> a version of DOS.
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: squall_01 on February 11, 2009, 11:53:43 AM
I mean such as it could be like xp or anything that is windows.
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: BC_Programmer on February 11, 2009, 11:57:14 AM
No.

you need a Previous version of DOS. I'll explain what previous means. Before. NOT after.

BUT... you don't have a previous version. your back at square one.

And don't pull that old, "well, XP and 2000 say version 5" yes they do. of windows. In fact... I found it humorous that it was even considered a viable course of action.

Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: squall_01 on February 11, 2009, 12:10:33 PM
all i am saing is cant I just update that version?  Its like 5 or something. 
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: Dias de verano on February 11, 2009, 12:18:54 PM
what's with all this "5 or something"? 5 what? 5 little piggies?
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: squall_01 on February 11, 2009, 12:21:04 PM
the verison like 5.1 or something like that.
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: Dias de verano on February 11, 2009, 12:24:04 PM
the verison like 5.1 or something like that.

What's with all this "something like that"? What is it exactly?
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: squall_01 on February 11, 2009, 12:30:53 PM
cause I'm not sure what version they have built into my copy of 2k.
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: Dias de verano on February 11, 2009, 12:34:43 PM
cause I'm not sure what version they have built into my copy of 2k.

Win 2k has not got any kind of MS-DOS that you can use. You were told that "like" 10 posts ago.

Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: squall_01 on February 11, 2009, 12:41:19 PM
well if I click run then type cmd what is that then?
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: Dias de verano on February 11, 2009, 12:58:53 PM
well if I click run then type cmd what is that then?

cmd.exe is Windows command line. Not MS-DOS.
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: BC_Programmer on February 11, 2009, 01:02:27 PM
well if I click run then type cmd what is that then?


It's called the windows command interpreter. try doing a VER. see anything about DOS anywhere in there?

I find the fact that you actually think there is any interchangability between DOS 6, released in 1993 (or thereabouts) and Windows 2000, released in windows 2000. Yes, it's an "upgrade" to go back 7 years.


perhaps try reading some posts. see this?


And don't pull that old, "well, XP and 2000 say version 5" yes they do. of windows. In fact... I found it humorous that it was even considered a viable course of action.



the windows NT architecture has NOTHING in common with MS-DOS. don't delude yourself into thinking otherwise.

the file you downloaded, allegedly from Microsoft - is 100% positive to be the MS-DOS stepup files. for a PREVIOUS version of MS-DOS. Now, I've already Defined what "Previous" means, as in Released before the OS it's upgrading. DOS 5 was released BEFORE DOS 6, but windows 2000 (which you claim has DOS) Is WINDOWS version 5 see the difference?

DOS != Windows Dos is NOT Windows. Quit confusing the two.

the steps you need to take are as follows:

Get a PREVIOUS version of MS-DOS, 4,5, or 6 would be ideal (to drive the point home it is NOT windows, so no more of this "can I install and upgrade win2k to DOS 6.22  :-*"  the idea is ridiculous at it's very core. Once you get this version of MS-DOS:

Install It. Note that this should generally be a simple task, involving booting from the setup disk, and inserting the next disk in the sequence when prompted.

Once it is installed onto the HD (which you will likely need to fdisk before hand, BTW) you can *THEN* proceed to run the DOS 6.22 step-up. let's define step-up... as in, a Step, UP, from something. that something is a previous version of MS-DOS.



Also, don't say anything dumb like, "well, what if I install like win98"...

Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: squall_01 on February 11, 2009, 01:04:27 PM
oh okay sorry just getting the hang of it.  he may go over the installation today any way.  Hopefully.
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: Geek-9pm on February 11, 2009, 03:35:43 PM
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like... like... like...
Yes?  8)
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: squall_01 on February 11, 2009, 03:41:38 PM
he didnt cause we were installing xp to laptops.
Title: Re: Installing Dos 6.22
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on February 11, 2009, 06:37:09 PM
Jesus, three pages already?

Squall, no.

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