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Title: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: boo on April 25, 2009, 06:09:34 PM
My specs are on the left if you need.

The problem is that startup has become intolerably slow. The problem is not that there are too many programs starting up as i have trimmed them down in msconfig, the problem is that the programs that SHOULD startup are not being executed quickly enough.

When the computer starts up, i can open task manager easily enough and i can see that there are large gaps (2-3mins sometime) when the CPU is at 2-3% load - I cannot open e.g. Chrome whilst this is going on as it acts as if the CPU is running at full load.

Can anyone suggest a possible cause a solution for my problem - Any replies very welcome

Thank you
Boo
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: Broni on April 25, 2009, 06:27:07 PM
Download, install, and run Whats Running (http://www.freewarefiles.com/Whats-Running-V_program_22248.html).
Click on Take snapshot in the left pane.
New pop-up window will open.
Click on Save snapshot, and save the file as snap (.xml extension will be added automatically) to know location.

(http://209.85.48.8/228/109/upload/p4350383.gif)

Zip the file, and attach it to your next reply.
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: boo on April 25, 2009, 06:37:08 PM
i installed the aforementioned software but was unable to start it - "unable to find PSInfo.dll which need to be in the same directory as Whatsrunning.exe"
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: boo on April 25, 2009, 06:39:08 PM
oh and the file is actually in the folder mentioned in the error message
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: Broni on April 25, 2009, 06:50:35 PM
Is it 64-bit Vista?
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: boo on April 25, 2009, 06:52:35 PM
yep - i noticed no mention of compatibility on their website :(
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: Broni on April 25, 2009, 06:55:45 PM
Post HJT log then.
Was the startup always slow?
Any connection to overclocking the video card?
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: boo on April 25, 2009, 06:57:38 PM
Thanks for reminding me - as i got only a small improvement in the performance from it and i want to sell the computer soon anyway, i clocked it back to the default

i will post a HJT log then
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: boo on April 25, 2009, 07:00:55 PM
Here's the file

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Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: Broni on April 25, 2009, 07:54:54 PM
Unless you willingly installed Kontiki Player....
Go Start>Control Panel>Add\Remove ("Programs and Features" in Vista), and uninstall Sky Anytime (if present).
Download, and run KClean.exe: http://static.sky.com/kclean/KClean.exe to remove Kontiki from your computer.
NOTE: Kontiki is know resource hog.

Do you have any idea about these:
- O4 - Startup: kill.bat
- O4 - Startup: mel.bat222430.bat
- O4 - Startup: StartupFaster
- O4 - Global Startup: BumpTop.lnk = C:\Program Files (x86)\BumpTop\BumpTop.exe
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: boo on April 26, 2009, 08:57:43 AM
Unless you willingly installed Kontiki Player....
Go Start>Control Panel>Add\Remove ("Programs and Features" in Vista), and uninstall Sky Anytime (if present).
Download, and run KClean.exe: http://static.sky.com/kclean/KClean.exe to remove Kontiki from your computer.
NOTE: Kontiki is know resource hog.

Do you have any idea about these:
- O4 - Startup: kill.bat
- O4 - Startup: mel.bat222430.bat
- O4 - Startup: StartupFaster
- O4 - Global Startup: BumpTop.lnk = C:\Program Files (x86)\BumpTop\BumpTop.exe

Ok so Kontiki unfortunately is the download manager for 4OD - something i use alot and i cant stop it from starting up - ive tried removing it from the msconfig but it worms it's way back in there

Bumptop is legit
Startup faster is something i tried but it was crap and has been uninstalled and is not in the startup menu so I'm not sure why it's in that list

I'll look into the rest as they look "interesting"
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: patio on April 26, 2009, 09:02:06 AM
 ;D ;D ;D

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Startup faster is something i tried but it was crap

How many times do we see this ? ?

Good one Boo...
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: boo on April 26, 2009, 09:05:49 AM
;D ;D ;D

How many times do we see this ? ?

Good one Boo...

Ha!

anyway, this is a screenshot that i took of the startup list - the two dodgy looking ones arent explained apart from their location....

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Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: boo on April 26, 2009, 09:09:48 AM
i navigated the the directory that the 2 files were in and could only see them when i unchecked "hide operating system files"......

They just sound ominous..
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: Broni on April 26, 2009, 09:10:08 AM
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ive tried removing it from the msconfig but it worms it's way back in there
It sure does, because it's running its service at the startup:
O23 - Service: KService - Kontiki Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Kontiki\KService.exe

For testing purposes, uninstall it, using my steps, and see, if it makes any difference.
You can always reinstall it.
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: Broni on April 26, 2009, 09:12:25 AM
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the two dodgy looking ones arent explained apart from their location....
Uncheck them.
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: boo on April 26, 2009, 09:16:09 AM
just a small update -  the mel.bat222430.bat is legit as i had a virus that place a file in the startup folder that i could not deletge so i used a program to delete it on startup

The other one contains this "              net stop "; DNS; Client; "
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: boo on April 26, 2009, 09:25:44 AM
thanks!
i tried the Khost thing and deleted the 2 weird entries and it started up much faster

Whilst I'm on the topic and i apologise to use your time like this but very often my computer can take upwards of 2mins to get through the BIOS when i boot up - this happens 80% of the time (as soon as it recognizes the RAM, it goes through the rest of it very quickly. IS this normal? If not, how can i speed it up?
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: Broni on April 26, 2009, 09:33:30 AM
Just to make sure, I'd....

Read here: http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,46313.0.html
Start new topic here: http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/board,7.0.html
Do NOT post any logs in THIS thread.
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: boo on April 26, 2009, 09:44:01 AM
May i ask why?
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: Broni on April 26, 2009, 09:44:58 AM
To see, if your computer is clean.
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: boo on April 26, 2009, 09:45:43 AM
ok, thanks for all your help
Title: Re: Windows Vista startup issue
Post by: Broni on April 26, 2009, 09:46:50 AM
Sure thing :)