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Title: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Helper4789 on May 06, 2009, 08:58:06 AM
Do you think that windows vista is worth it?
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on May 06, 2009, 09:59:35 AM
No.



What? I don't see him asking for any justifications or reasons.  ::)
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 06, 2009, 10:01:08 AM
I concur with carbon.  plus you can get xp to look like vista but keep the feel of XP.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Helper4789 on May 06, 2009, 11:35:02 AM
Vista is crap ...
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Broni on May 06, 2009, 11:37:15 AM
Hmmm...I don't think so.
What makes you to say so?
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 06, 2009, 11:45:33 AM
I like the layout for the most part but its confuseing.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Broni on May 06, 2009, 11:47:35 AM
If you use for for at least few days, it's not.
If you saw it on friend's computer, it may be.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 06, 2009, 11:48:49 AM
That I have, but my sister has it and if you recall the one post about her game it kind of got out of hand with her.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Broni on May 06, 2009, 11:50:03 AM
Ehhh.....
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: kpac on May 06, 2009, 12:00:32 PM
Do you think that windows vista is worth it?

Yes. But the better question: worth what exactly?
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Geek-9pm on May 06, 2009, 12:19:24 PM
Yes. But the better question: worth what exactly?
Money?
Learning Curve?
Computability issues?
CPU overheating?  **
High Blood Pressure?


** Unpublished  pool shows 68% of Pentium 4 CPUs had higher temps running Vista . But none of the Dual Core CPUs could not give a single answer to the question.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 06, 2009, 12:23:22 PM
your missing one.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Helper4789 on May 06, 2009, 12:52:15 PM
There have been so many problems with Microsoft windows VISTA it's unbeliveable. Windows vista was a muck up. So many people was complainging to microsoft that they wanted a new operating system. So they just made one? Which is rubbish? 8)
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Broni on May 06, 2009, 12:54:26 PM
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There have been so many problems with Microsoft windows VISTA it's unbeliveable.
Source?
For how long have you been using Vista?
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 06, 2009, 01:02:38 PM
I cant say myself but even just in that little time I detest it much.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Aegis on May 06, 2009, 03:13:27 PM
I use it at work and rather like it.  It's not that terribly different from XP, and has some nice features.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 06, 2009, 03:14:53 PM
some is the key word.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Griff on May 06, 2009, 04:07:21 PM
I hated it. I had so many problems with it, and for some reason i had more Blu screens in it than XP. (All hardware is recent.)

The dumbest problem I had was explorer would crash on me everytime I typed the letter V into the serch box in the search menu. What a dumb issue...

Networking was a nightmare. Two computers using Vista, 1 router. one could connect just fine, both macs could no prob, but the second copy could NOT pull an IP address. Reinstalling did crap. I had to go into the registry, and edit mulitple GUID ids to get the *censored* thing to work. Half way through, it just started working.

I hate Vista.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Broni on May 06, 2009, 04:19:13 PM
I've been using Vista on my desktop since 2007, on my laptop since last year, and never had a single, serious problem.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Griff on May 06, 2009, 04:23:36 PM
I've been using Vista on my desktop since 2007, on my laptop since last year, and never had a single, serious problem.

Consider yourself luky...   :-\
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Broni on May 06, 2009, 04:29:56 PM
Really? I work with computers every day, so I'm pretty familiar with what works, and what doesn't.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Griff on May 06, 2009, 04:32:48 PM
It really does seem like Vista is a hit or miss with some people. I know plenty of experts who hate Vista, while other seem to like it.

I don't know why the experiances with vista are so mixed. When a basic user can have an easier time than a certified user... it's just weird...
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: patio on May 06, 2009, 04:35:02 PM
People who bash Vista used it for exactly 3 days....
Everyone else gets it...
BTW if you hated Vista you may as well skip Win7 entirely and any other Microsoft release for the next 20 years......

Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Broni on May 06, 2009, 04:41:56 PM
Surf some computer boards, going back to 2001/2002, and you'll see very same Vista haters, saying very same thing about XP.
There was adjustment jump from Win 98 to XP, as it's from XP to Vista.

Then, adding to what patio said, I can assure you, most people, who don't like Vista, never used it (saw it on uncle's computer), used it for couple of days, or had it on machines, which didn't meet Vista hardware requirements. The latter are probably most common.
"Oh, man, my Vista is so slow, I hate it..."
"What kind of computer do you have?"
"Oh, 1.5GHz processor, 15GB hard drive, and 512MB of RAM".
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Broni on May 06, 2009, 04:43:16 PM
...and, there is really not such a jump from Vista to Win 7, so Vista users will have it easy way.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Griff on May 06, 2009, 04:45:39 PM
Heh.

I used Vista for about 5 months before I trashed it thank you.

I have had Win7 ever since the Beta (just installed RC yesterday) and I can say it's 100 times better than what Vista is. I LOVE Windows 7 so far.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Broni on May 06, 2009, 04:50:42 PM
So, everybody's happy now.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 06, 2009, 06:37:16 PM
I had to put up with it for a while to so dont think that I didnt.  It was down there at the main campus last year and my sister has it.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: hot dog on May 07, 2009, 12:44:31 AM
When I first used Vista a couple of years ago I thought it sucked.  I believe it was because I didn't know enough about computers to begin with.  I used Win98 and WinXP before that but not extensively enough to know the difference.

I bought a computer (July 2007) that had Vista Home Basic installed and it had only 512 MB of RAM.....bare minimum.... 256 MB onboard Video Ram, Trialware up the a**, and no anti-malware program installed worth a heck.  Naturally, it didn't run too well.  Windows locked up all the time.  But as I learned the basics, I realized the thing needed more RAM and a good cleansing in general & defrag.................I actually called eMachines and they had me uninstall/reinstall the mouse driver in Device Manager to try to fix the hanging Windows......(off the subject, what a joke that was)   

Aside from all this, everyone around me was saying that Vista sucks and it supported my contemporary feelings about it.  I'm sure there are experienced people who know what they're talking about when they critisize Vista.  However, I think it's likely that people say it sucks, because everyone else says it does..........if you catch my drift..                        In a nut shell, I believe I spoke too soon about Vista. After I got the basics of computing down, I never had any problems with it..
Theres my fews cents, on the subject :)

Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 07, 2009, 04:29:39 AM
I know what you mean, but even after useing it I dont care for it.  Like all the games go into a folder, I may creat one called games on the desktop.  But I'm able to go there see whats there and launch the ones I want with out issues.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Aegis on May 07, 2009, 07:16:13 AM
I know there's differences between Vista an XP, but you can have an XP user use Vista, and they won't be totally lost.

Vista is pleasing to the eye, graphically, and hey, a lot of people are driven by graphics -- if they weren't, we'd still be signing into bulletin boards on the Internet!   ;)
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: hot dog on May 07, 2009, 07:31:47 AM
I do wonder however, why Microsoft made a jump from 1.5 GB of Minimum Harddrive space (WinXP) to 15 GB Minimum Harddrive space (Vista).......Windows XP---64 MB RAM minimum to operate & Vista 512 MB RAM minimum to operate.

That's an awfully big jump.  The first question that came to my mind was, What's in that extra 13 Gigabytes (approx), besides nice looks and User Account Control?  The Aero glass and UAC very much distinguish Vista from XP, but what else is there?  Some of the automated set-up processes seem nice, although I don't think Network Sharing Center is worth it....

I actually think I'll be pushing more for Linux after too long.  I'm learning Windows now because its the most common OS
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: hot dog on May 07, 2009, 07:36:01 AM

 if they weren't, we'd still be signing into bulletin boards on the Internet!   ;)

I wish I had been into computers when bulletin boards were around.  I've read about bulletin boards.  It seems like it would have been an interesting era to live through. :)
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on May 07, 2009, 07:45:15 AM
I dug up my Vista disc a few weeks ago and installed it on a VPC. I use it quite regularly. No problems so far.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Aegis on May 07, 2009, 08:14:29 AM
I completely agree that Vista is a resource hog.  (No offense to the pork industry.)
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 07, 2009, 08:41:30 AM
thats why certain linuxes are better.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: hot dog on May 07, 2009, 09:29:24 AM
I completely agree that Vista is a resource hog.  (No offense to the pork industry.)

LOL
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 07, 2009, 09:31:42 AM
I use my Vista laptop for downloading.

and folding

It's been on now for- actually, I can't remember when I last shut it off/restarted it. Over a month ago, I think.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Broni on May 07, 2009, 04:15:10 PM
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I do wonder however, why Microsoft made a jump from 1.5 GB of Minimum Harddrive space (WinXP) to 15 GB Minimum Harddrive space (Vista)
If you know just little bit about computers, and you look at minimum requirements on M$ site, regarding ANY Windows version, you can only laugh.
If you buy a computer, which just meets those specs, it'll never, ever work properly.
As for hard drive space, 1.5GB is laughable even for Win 98, not for XP. Get XP installed on even 15GB HD, and see how you're  gonna feel about it after 1 month of use.
I'm not even comment on M$ minimum specs for RAM amount, because it's simply a lie.

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I completely agree that Vista is a resource hog.
Source, please.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: michaewlewis on May 07, 2009, 04:26:05 PM
The only issues I've seen with Vista were on HP computers..........  :-\
I like Vista. :)
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Aegis on May 07, 2009, 04:43:44 PM
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I completely agree that Vista is a resource hog.

I was imprecise.

I refer to Vista's hardware requirements, which resemble a gamer's computer, more than the average business computer's needs.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Broni on May 07, 2009, 05:16:56 PM
Look, you can't  demand from M$ to keep developing new OSes, and stay with Windows 3.1 hardware.
Then...
In 1998, I bought top of the line Toshiba computer with Windows 98 on it.
233MHz Intel processor, 256MB of RAM, 6.4BG hard drive
Cost? Almost $2,500!

Few months ago, I bought HP laptop with Vista on it.
2.0GHz dual core AMD, 2GB of RAM, 250GB HD
Cost?
$450!

Show me the logic of complainers, and I'm buying  a round for all people from this topic ;D
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Aegis on May 07, 2009, 05:24:53 PM
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Look, you can't  demand from M$ to keep developing new OSes, and stay with Windows 3.1 hardware.

Do you truly think I am unaware of that?

I guess the minimum ideal RAM is 512MB, which isn't bad -- I thought it was higher.

Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Broni on May 07, 2009, 06:22:13 PM
WE know, that XP good minimum is 512MB of RAM.
M$ says, minimum is 64MB, so.....
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: patio on May 07, 2009, 07:11:16 PM
Vista sucks....

There.
I feel like everyone out there now......
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Broni on May 07, 2009, 07:16:07 PM
I'm pulling out my old Win 98 computer from the closet, right now ;D
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 07, 2009, 07:16:46 PM
patio joing the dark side.   :D  How does it feel?
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: rssc on May 13, 2009, 02:50:34 AM
I agree, I have Vista on my laptop now, The GUI is just so memory hogging so I changed it to 'Performance' mode which i think is a massive improvement in response times etc...  :)
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: soybean on May 14, 2009, 01:21:10 PM
I agree, I have Vista on my laptop now, The GUI is just so memory hogging so I changed it to 'Performance' mode which i think is a massive improvement in response times etc...  :)
What are the specs on your laptop?
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Ironman on May 19, 2009, 07:33:17 PM
I happy with XP, don't see the need to upgrade to Vista. One of my friends said that he rather downgrade to Windows 98SE than Vista, I think he was a bit too hash(not to say that 98SE wasn't great).
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 20, 2009, 04:22:52 AM
if i could get windows 7 I recommen it more but it has a virtual xp feature.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 20, 2009, 04:52:57 AM
quick question, squall- if you never got a copy of windows 7, how in the bloody hilly countryside of wales could you be a beta tester?
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 20, 2009, 06:20:46 AM
 ::)  Its not that hard to figure out, its a two step process you sign up the first few people who download the software acctucally got it then they stoped handing it out.  I wasnt able to cause I didnt have a fast connection at the time till later on.  At this point its takeing a while too since its not as fast as it would have been.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 20, 2009, 07:38:21 AM
If you don't have windows 7, you're beta testing it and are thus not a beta tester. It's simple deduction really. You were a prospect for beta testing windows 7. BUT, since you never actually got it, you aren't. And now it's in Release Candidate so there will be no further beta testing anyway.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 20, 2009, 08:02:33 AM
not exatly, thats not going to be the final version also I do get the mail when you used the beta
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Clarkcj on May 20, 2009, 04:45:38 PM
I say Vista is not really worth it. At least Microsoft made a better one. Windows 7 (RC Version is out right now to downlod from MSDN)
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: milesman on May 20, 2009, 05:10:37 PM
I say Vista is not really worth it.

I agree with Clarkcj, Vista is maybe not the best operating system you can buy. But, like Clarkcj said you can download the WIndows 7 Canidate at:

www.microsoft.com/Windows/Windows-7/download.aspx

It's free and work's great! It's still in it's testing stage and (In my opinion) is Better than Vista! It has the look's of Vista and the functionality of XP.

This is a 2.6 GB file! Watch Out dial up!

Hope this helps,

Miles M.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 20, 2009, 05:41:36 PM
At the end, I think it's up to the person using the pc. Are yrou comfortable with it? Does it have all the drivers working for your hardware you need? Are you able to run all the software you want on it? Do you like the interface? Is it running smoothly and not causing problems for you?



Vista is not really garbage to say the least but win7 does provide more. But Vista is supposedly going to be shot in the head by microsoft in 2012 so think about that.  ;D
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: TheHoFL on May 20, 2009, 05:44:33 PM
I have been running Vista Ultimate for some time and have had no issues. If you want to go to Vista i would recommend Ultimate 64bit version. It runs like a champ!


-HoFL
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 20, 2009, 05:55:47 PM
not exatly, thats not going to be the final version also I do get the mail when you used the beta

apparently your unaware of what "release candidate" means. Only very minor changes will be performed- even smaller then those you'd see in a Service Pack release.

I get mail from a variety of sources but if I got automated advertisements for plumbing supplies I'm not a plumber- I still need to work on pipes to be a plumber, just as anybody would need to- you know- beta test to be a beta tester which means they would need to beta.

It's out of beta. the beta testing is over.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 20, 2009, 06:13:24 PM
RC is is more of a passing phase. Just making sure it's really what people want before RTM officially gets underway. When RTM gets underway, code is frozen and therefore a lot of the bugs coming after that will have to be fixed on patch tuesdays usually.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: patio on May 20, 2009, 07:22:49 PM
RC is is more of a passing phase. Just making sure it's really what people want before RTM officially gets underway. When RTM gets underway, code is frozen and therefore a lot of the bugs coming after that will have to be fixed on patch tuesdays usually.
Not sure what this means ...
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 21, 2009, 05:03:44 AM
think of it like vista  ;)
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Cityscape on May 21, 2009, 08:46:48 AM
I say Vista is not really worth it. At least Microsoft made a better one. Windows 7 (RC Version is out right now to downlod from MSDN)
I agree. While Vista is not worth it, Window 7 (which includes a "XP Mode") is a very decent OS.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Cityscape on May 21, 2009, 09:14:17 AM
People who bash Vista used it for exactly 3 days....
Everyone else gets it...
BTW if you hated Vista you may as well skip Win7 entirely and any other Microsoft release for the next 20 years.....
Right on Patio!
While i don't mind Vista (it came pre-installed on my lappy), I still think XP all round was a better OS. Vista is way over trash talked, it's not a gold nugget or anything but it is a decent, working & generally stable OS. Windows 7 is like Vista fixed up real nice. I've used it for a month or 2 and it's great.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 21, 2009, 09:42:59 AM
How many times do we have to say this is the SAME stuff that happens with EVERY new windows release.

I like <older version> better then <newer version> because it has <insert obscure feature that was moved to a different location in newer version that the person was unable to find during their 3 hour test run of newer version>. Because if that, I have to stick with <older version>. Also, I find <older version> to have better <insert feature that newer version does better> and I don't like that <newer version> has <insert feature that is installed by default in newer version but is easily disabled or even ignored and is thus not a good basis for complaining>.


There, I even got some field codes in there.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 21, 2009, 11:17:55 AM
there you go thats right.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: computerperson#1 on May 21, 2009, 03:08:52 PM
i like the theme and stuff but it has said that it will crash a lot so i would stick with windows xp but there is a new windows coming out but i do not know when
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: soybean on May 21, 2009, 04:54:43 PM
but it has said that it will crash a lot
OMG, where do comments like this come from?  ::)  I've had my laptop with Vista Home Premium since July 2007 and it DOES NOT crash a lot.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Aegis on May 21, 2009, 04:58:35 PM
When the laptop falls off the table (or lap), it crashes.   ::)
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Buzzintx on May 21, 2009, 06:19:38 PM
Our laptop has Vista and it hasn't crashed once! I works very well if you ask me.....  ;D
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 21, 2009, 08:38:11 PM
My Vista laptop has been running for the last month straight with no problems...
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: milesman on May 21, 2009, 08:42:25 PM
This is what I'm wondering: Why does Vista get bad reviews? Not by you guy's I can tell, but by other people.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 21, 2009, 08:55:15 PM
This is what I'm wondering: Why does Vista get bad reviews? Not by you guy's I can tell, but by other people.

because most people were running the windows vista on crappy pc's and that wrecked the performance and secondly, the wonderful world of xp has gone to becoming a new vista world where everything's gotta be relearned. That's what I think, LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: iamtonsoffun247 on May 21, 2009, 09:26:40 PM
People always like to complain about something, and be part of the crowd. It's human nature. All of my computers were upgrade from xp to vista because I like it much more. As long as your computer has the right specs for vista, and aren't trying to upgrade a computer with only 512MB of RAM and crappy graphics card, you are fine. I <3 Vista! 8)
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 21, 2009, 09:37:08 PM
and for every thing out there, at least one person will complain about it. So there  :P
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 22, 2009, 04:45:48 AM
I think its just cause of how it was when it was realsed but with the patches and updates it fot to be like something close to ME.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: soybean on May 22, 2009, 08:08:31 AM
I think its just cause of how it was when it was realsed but with the patches and updates it fot got to be like something close to ME.
Close to Windows ME?  Is that what you are saying!?  That's may be the most absurd statement here so far.  ::)
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 22, 2009, 09:12:16 AM
I believe, what he might mean, is that, in the same fashion that ME was based on very slightly modified Windows 98SE, Windows 7 will be a slightly modified Vista.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 22, 2009, 12:58:35 PM
I believe, what he might mean, is that, in the same fashion that ME was based on very slightly modified Windows 98SE, Windows 7 will be a slightly modified Vista.

As far as I understand, Windows 7 is supposedly modified windows vista code, with the additions of all the good stuff that we've seen of windows 7. That helps I think to keep windows vista's library of software and hardware running on the getgo, though some software and hardware still breaks with a new os....
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Mulreay on May 22, 2009, 02:38:47 PM
I think everyone including the people who know better should stop down playing Vista.. There is nothing wrong with the OS as there was nothing wrong with 95 or 2000 it's a platform that costs less than MAC because it's put out to the consumer to find the bug's. Yeah fair enough there are some issues but nothing that cannot be sorted out on this forum so stop scaring people away from new windows products. I've used Vista going on 2 years and I think it's getting a lot better.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 23, 2009, 05:10:02 AM
I'm starting to find it to be okay for the most part.  It needs a few little changes that can surely be made but other then that.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: quaxo on May 23, 2009, 07:19:24 AM
I've said this before and I'll say it again:

Pre-SP1, Vista was pretty rough. After SP1, a lot of issues were addressed and it works much better. I like it better than XP now.

Not sure why we needed another "Is Vista any good?" thread though. Haven't we been over this several times already?
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 23, 2009, 08:47:00 AM
yes we have. that would explain my constant feeling of Deja-vu...
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 23, 2009, 03:39:02 PM
everyone will always complain how bad a O.S. is and then the majority shut up really soon when M$ patches the thing. It always happens oddly  :P
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: patio on May 23, 2009, 06:06:28 PM
It's Deja Vu' all over again...
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Aegis on May 23, 2009, 07:42:41 PM
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It's [like] Deja Vu' all over again...

I've been waiting for that.  Thank you, Mr. Berra.   :D
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: whty99778 on May 23, 2009, 08:15:59 PM
I say if you have XP now and you like it then just stick with that Vista is nothing speacial likes nice but that's about it.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: quaxo on May 23, 2009, 08:32:28 PM
I say if you have XP now and you like it then just stick with that Vista is nothing speacial likes nice but that's about it.

It's quite obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

everyone will always complain how bad a O.S. is and then the majority shut up really soon when M$ patches the thing. It always happens oddly  :P

Yeah, there are rants like this with every MS OS. Some more than others. It will be no different with Windows 7.

I think its just cause of how it was when it was realsed but with the patches and updates it fot to be like something close to ME.

Eh... see my reply to whty99778.

i like the theme and stuff but it has said that it will crash a lot so i would stick with windows xp but there is a new windows coming out but i do not know when

See my reply to Squall.

yes we have. that would explain my constant feeling of Deja-vu...

It's a glitch in the Matrix. Happens when they change something. Check your windows and make sure they haven't become bricked over.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 23, 2009, 09:21:14 PM
In the end, whatever O.S. is comfortable for you,  supports the applications, games, and hardware your pc has and has decent performance and does well for you, that is fine.

I'd use windows 2000 if I could, but it's not supporting some stuff I got on my pc. LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: patio on May 24, 2009, 04:43:56 AM
I haven't seen much of anything that won't run on my Win2K machine...
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: camerongray on May 24, 2009, 05:16:27 AM
I don't think Vista - I think it is too slow

I like Windows 7 RC1 so I think that I'll wait until it is released
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Mulreay on May 24, 2009, 01:35:00 PM
As I said there is nothing wrong!
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Cityscape on May 24, 2009, 01:53:23 PM
it has said that it will crash a lot
My Vista laptop has been running for the last month straight with no problems...
Vista does NOT crash lots...at least not with SP1.
My Vista laptop has been running for the last 4 months with no problem.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Mulreay on May 24, 2009, 02:48:00 PM
Amen
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 24, 2009, 03:24:23 PM
again, if you like the operating system, it doesn't crash on you often and it handles the things you want to do on it, then it's worth it for you.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 24, 2009, 04:06:12 PM
that just shows that you understand the strenght an weakness of it.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 24, 2009, 05:20:48 PM
that just shows that you understand the strenght an weakness of it.
;D
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Mulreay on May 24, 2009, 05:22:26 PM
Squall it just shows me that you STILL don't know the benefits of spell checker.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 24, 2009, 05:36:41 PM
Squall it just shows me that you STILL don't know the benefits of spell checker.

spell checker not necessarily reliable. LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 25, 2009, 05:43:40 AM
it takes time to load that an its hard when your on dial up
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: quaxo on May 25, 2009, 07:01:46 AM
it takes time to load that
Not much more than XP on my system.

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an its hard when your on dial up

How does dial-up effect Vista? That make no sense. With the complexity of web content anymore, dial-up is going to be slow whether you're on Vista or not. Vista has nothing to do with it.

It's ignorant, false comments like that which have given Vista a bad name. That's almost as bad as the sleep-mode comments earlier.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: soybean on May 25, 2009, 07:22:35 AM
it takes time to load that an its hard when your on dial up
You have Microsoft Office, so just copy your forum comments to Word and use its spell check.  Or, just compose your comments in Word first, check spelling, and then copy them to the forum message panel.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on May 25, 2009, 07:29:20 AM
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:3
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: TheShadow on May 25, 2009, 07:43:59 AM
Firefox spell checks, right out of the box.  No add-ons required.
Just watch for the little red underlines.  Right click on the underlined words and select the correct spelling from the drop down menu.

"Is Vista worth it"?  Well, not if you had to buy it!  If it came pre-loaded on your PC, well it's not so bad.  From what I've seen so far, Windows 7 will blow Vista right out of the water.
About two weeks ago, I wiped out Vista on my #2 HD and replaced it with Windows 7 Ultimate 64, RC1.
That's one of the best moves I've ever made.
Win-7 came with drivers for all my hardware, except, my three Epson printers and my ZOOM USB modem.  When Win-7 finished loading, it came up "ON LINE".  I thought that was pretty NEAT!

Cheers Mates!
Shadow  8)
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Mulreay on May 25, 2009, 07:45:22 AM


It's ignorant, false comments like that which have given Vista a bad name. That's almost as bad as the sleep-mode comments earlier.

I here you there. As I said earlier there is nothing fundamentally wrong with Vista. I like it I find it user friendly and as long as you update it regular then there are no real issues.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 26, 2009, 03:30:36 AM
the only reason it stays user friendly, not that far from linux then
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: quaxo on May 26, 2009, 04:58:23 AM
the only reason it stays user friendly, not that far from linux then

Linux is no where near being user friendly and has nothing to do with the price of cookies.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 26, 2009, 05:05:07 AM
 ::) thats what I am saing, with out the patches vista is nothing more.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Mr_Mister on May 26, 2009, 08:43:56 AM
linux is king.. hands down..  anyone with basic computer knowledge can run it.. especially distributions such as ubuntu and fedora.. 

as far as windows OS's go i think vista is great as a normal home/family computer..
my family runs vista on the desktop and they run simple word proccessing software and surf the internet and download music here and there.. vista is very visually stimulating for them, and they do hardly anything on there.  therefore vista is great for that use.. anything else i would use linux or windows XP *personal preference*     

*note* all users are running Vista OS using VM server
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 26, 2009, 08:57:48 AM
?????
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Aegis on May 26, 2009, 09:07:03 AM
Quote
anyone with basic computer knowledge can run it

I don't disagree that they can run Linux easily, but getting it set up can be beyond the average user.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: milesman on May 26, 2009, 10:01:45 AM
Thing about Linux is that it's compatibility issues... The hardware they use does not have many vendor's. Also, Windows & Macintosh software is not compatible. That's expected though... but most software is designed for Windows or Macintosh and not Linux.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: quaxo on May 26, 2009, 10:15:04 AM
linux is king.. hands down.. 

I think you will find that any gamer would disagree with this statement.

Don't get me wrong, I love Linux. I've used Fedora since Fedora Core 3. Xandros is another distro I like. But I'm a big gamer, and the lack of mainstream games for Linux is a letdown and the main reason I don't go 100% Linux.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Aegis on May 26, 2009, 10:29:26 AM
Absolutely! 

Plus, a lot of little things.  I have to say that the Windows drivers for my HP printer offer a great deal more flexibility than the last set of Linux drivers which I used in Ubuntu.  (Granted, this was a couple of years ago.)  It was a major accomplishment to be able to simply print via Linux, much less change resolutions, etc.

It's not bashing - I, too, am a large Linux fan.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 26, 2009, 12:53:04 PM
Linux isn't bad but it's the fact that windows got so much stuff I need or want to use ....

and typing the code into the terminal on linux? Don't like having to do that every time you wanna do something a little more technical....

Windows is more or less push and click for me if you got the installer.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Aegis on May 26, 2009, 01:14:33 PM
That's the huge Windows advantage - ease of installation.  Linux is catching up, year by year...but Windows 2000 was probably the last Windows edition to suffer real driver problems.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 26, 2009, 05:04:15 PM
next to vista
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Idiosyncrasy on May 26, 2009, 05:17:14 PM
The train of thought for this post just kept getting derailed and somehow managed to get back on the tracks, like it jumped a gap in a bridge or something.

Also, I use Vista Home Premium. Other than the blue screens (because I'm a newb and didn't install latest graphics drivers), I have experienced NO problems with Vista..gaming or otherwise.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 26, 2009, 05:23:27 PM
Isnt it great.   ::) you probably should.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: patio on May 26, 2009, 08:54:52 PM
Squall one question...are you running Vista right now ? ?
If so for how long ? ?
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Lumpy Hippo on May 26, 2009, 09:10:38 PM
It's not worth it to upgrade only because you don't gain anything for the money but it's not a bad system to run I like it, especially the new search function, the photo gallery sorting, and the quickness of jumping on a network.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 26, 2009, 09:27:23 PM
I'm using it right now, got the sp2 on. the machine's sparkling clean now that i gave it a clean and it's still pretty good!!
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 27, 2009, 05:51:13 PM
I have no machine that runs it aside from what I use down there at the main campus and my sisters laptop all together I suppose about a year or so.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: gothsleepy1 on May 27, 2009, 11:06:04 PM
Hold out for W7
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 27, 2009, 11:08:55 PM
Hold out for W7

yeah from what I see so far, just get windows 7 if you do not already have windows vista on the hold. For me, I have windows vista and there's no problem with it that makes me really need to change operating systems though so i'm staying with it for now.

Windows 7 is basically windows vista at heart except for the cosmetic differences as well as how things are handled in windows 7 which may make it more interactive for the user, which probably is a good thing so that users actually know where things are.

But so far, I feel that windows 7 and windows vista would run smoothly on decent pc's anyhow.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 28, 2009, 04:17:21 AM
I dont plan on getting vista, win 7 maybe after a while I have the feeling that I will have to set it up some were so I suppose that I should get used to it soon. 
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: nalee on May 28, 2009, 12:31:49 PM
ARE YOU SERIOUS  :||x :||x :||x :||x  That's the beauty, freedom of speech.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion (for the most part) no matter how odd or out of place it may seem to YOU.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.  I have Vista on my Laptop and XP on my desktop, they both have strengths and weaknesses, so like it was said before, to each his own.  It's not that serious, be passionate about something that actually matters, not whose computer can grow legs and run faster than someone else's.  I digress
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 28, 2009, 12:53:14 PM
to everyone their own opinions. windows is gold and windows is trash for many a people. the curse'd windows it shall be....

Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 28, 2009, 10:32:14 PM
opinions based on prejudice are flawed.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 28, 2009, 11:10:23 PM
opinions based on prejudice are flawed.

but still a cursed  a windows it shall be to many people .... it's their opinion on it, what can we do about it? Many a mac user will say that Mac is better than windows, that's what they think but oh well, life goes on  :-*
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 29, 2009, 04:38:36 AM
 ::)  If you really think about it, I had the other day mostly if not all pc's I mean all together laptops ect... have windows on them about 25% is other OS's
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Cityscape on May 29, 2009, 02:38:29 PM
Thing about Linux is that it's compatibility issues... The hardware they use does not have many vendor's. Also, Windows & Macintosh software is not compatible. That's expected though... but most software is designed for Windows or Macintosh and not Linux.
As soon as Linux gets a larger market share programs will become available.
The usage of Windows is hugely declining (-8% of total market over 2.5 years). And Mac OS X is growing fast along with Linux. Dell USA even now selling desktops & laptops with Ubuntu Linux.
Don't get me wrong, I love Linux. I've used Fedora since Fedora Core 3. Xandros is another distro I like. But I'm a big gamer, and the lack of mainstream games for Linux is a letdown and the main reason I don't go 100% Linux.
The reason for lack of games is because of what i stated above.
It's not worth it to upgrade only because you don't gain anything for the money
That's right, wait for Windows7.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: TheHoFL on May 29, 2009, 02:58:11 PM
I still say get Vista. I have had NO issues running Vista Ulitmate. I liked Windows 7 from playing around with the RC that was released, but i think it will be a while before service packs are released. Hands down, Vista is awesome. If you like gaming, photo/video editing, etc. it runs great.

If you want Windows 7 i would say wait for about one year after it comes out so some updates and patches are released. At least you know some of Vista's issues are taken care of.  ;)
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 29, 2009, 05:37:24 PM
thats usually how it all ways is.  No more no less except for the windows phanatics.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 29, 2009, 06:24:48 PM
thats usually how it all ways is.  No more no less except for the windows phanatics.

windows 7 on the surface seems to be same as windows vista isn't it? I don't think average user is going to use the new operating sysem any different than the older operating system, just maybe do it a little faster or differently ?
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 29, 2009, 07:01:45 PM
what I am talking of usage.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 29, 2009, 07:27:06 PM
what I am talking of usage.
???
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: patio on May 29, 2009, 08:05:04 PM
Sure.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 30, 2009, 02:24:02 PM
I am starting to find it to be a pain when you dont know how to troubleshoot it since my sister has an error know on it, pc tools tray application has stopped working
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Mulreay on May 30, 2009, 05:54:35 PM
Double post Squall and you SHOULD know better!  >:(
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: squall_01 on May 30, 2009, 07:46:29 PM
what that is completely unrealted and its raise distribution of resolvement in another fourm.  This is showing the detestment for the OS in general spite not understanding its ablity.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on May 30, 2009, 08:35:21 PM
Look how many pages this topic has developed.

Just like the Ebay topic, Squall, you're trying to force your ideas about something you don't even have on others.

Your added spelling mistakes aren't getting you anywhere either.

My advice is to just stop.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Mulreay on May 30, 2009, 08:42:44 PM
I cinda feal tha seam. Can wee stup thas new!!
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 30, 2009, 10:11:35 PM
I cinda feal tha seam. Can wee stup thas new!!

Are you tired or something? Type a proper stop the thread already message  ;D
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Mulreay on May 30, 2009, 10:37:04 PM
Your not getting the joke but were all glad you turned up..
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: BC_Programmer on May 30, 2009, 10:42:19 PM
and this would be the- what- fifth thread in the last month to suddenly become about squall?
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: 2x3i5x on May 30, 2009, 10:43:53 PM
Are you tired or something? Type a proper stop the thread already message  ;D

I forgot to mention that message is going to Squall, not you Mulreay. Forgot to mention that  ;D


and this would be the- what- fifth thread in the last month to suddenly become about squall?

And yes, so it has been. Is Squall really that popular or should we still stick to dreaming he was the final fantasy guy?
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: kpac on May 31, 2009, 08:48:43 AM
Look how many pages this topic has developed.

Exactly, just lock it. It's getting nowhere in a hurry, and I'm sure "Helper4789" has gotten enough opinions on it.
Title: Re: Is Vista worth it?
Post by: Carbon Dudeoxide on May 31, 2009, 08:56:39 AM
I agree. I think it's safe to say this topic has lost its usefulness.

If anyone has questions or wants this topic unlocked, please feel free to message  (http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=26624)me.

Closing.