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Hardware => Hardware => Topic started by: bl00dcandy on September 21, 2009, 10:58:35 PM

Title: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: bl00dcandy on September 21, 2009, 10:58:35 PM
hello. i just got a new computer. not the best but better then my old one.

here it is:

https://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc [...] 92&lang=en

it has an integrated graphics card which si really *censored* :
geforce 6150 se

and i was looking to upgrade it to
geforce 9600 gt or 9800 gt
woudl that be possible?
if yes can you link a reccomended one taht woudl work with it please
and is under $80 preferably
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woudl i have to disable the integrated in order to use the new one?
..............
and also would i be able to upgrade the cpu to a quad core?
..............
andi intend to get a second monitor
one for gaming and teh other for web searches/photoshop/etc
..............
since i desire to do taht shoudl i get two graphic cards?
so tehy can each have their own power
or would one be fine concidering it has ports for 2 monitors

[[in advance]]
i appreciate your knowledge and help
thank you
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: EEVIAC on September 21, 2009, 11:09:52 PM
The link you provided doesn't work...    What is the make/model of the computer?
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: bl00dcandy on September 21, 2009, 11:26:46 PM

Base processor
Athlon X2 (K) 7550 2.5 GHz (95W)

    *
      2000 MT/s (mega transfers/second)
    *
      Socket AM2+


Chipset
GeForce 6150SE nForce 430


Video Graphics
Integrated on motherboard (see motherboard and chipset)

Expansion slots
    *  One PCI
    * One PCI Express x16 graphics (for a graphics card)
    * Two PCI Express x1 (for cards such as network, sound, tv-tuner)


cpu/processor
    *  Socket: AM2+
    * Supports the following processors:
          o AMD Phenom II Quad-Core
          o AMD Phenom II Triple-Core
          o AMD Phenom Quad-Core (Agena core) 9xxx series (AM2+)
          o AMD Phenom Triple-Core (Toliman core) 8xxx series (AM2+)
          o AMD Athlon X4
          o AMD Athlon X3
          o AMD Athlon X2 (Brisbane) (AM2+)




sorry...
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: bl00dcandy on September 21, 2009, 11:28:18 PM
oh and its a compaq presario
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: EEVIAC on September 22, 2009, 12:55:12 AM
oh and its a compaq presario

Can you find a model number anywhere on the case?

I can't tell by the specs. you listed whether your PCIexpress x16 slot is 1.0 or 2.0..
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: bl00dcandy on September 22, 2009, 04:56:42 AM
Can you find a model number anywhere on the case?

I can't tell by the specs. you listed whether your PCIexpress x16 slot is 1.0 or 2.0..

sorry =[

the model number is CQ5110Y
the product number is KY821AA - ABA

thank you for being so patient
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: Boozu on September 22, 2009, 05:17:13 AM
Did you buy it from a friend or from the company?

If you are willing to do all of this work why didn't you just build a pc from scratch?

You may have to reinstall the OS and to do that you will have to get a new cd key because the more you change on you pc the less likely the OS will work.
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: EEVIAC on September 22, 2009, 10:53:00 AM
I went to two websites checking your motherboard and it appears that your PCI express x16 slot is the first version (1.0)   It would have specified "2.0" if it was the updated version but neither one did that..

Now that we have that out of the way, what is the make/model of your monitor?  Does it use a DVI connection or SVGA connection?  You stated that you'd like to use a second monitor, so you you'll need a video card that will best support the type of monitors you're using....   It would also help if you gave an idea of what games you'll be playing, as different games have different hardware requirements..


Also, as far as you wanting to upgrade the processor, it's a little late to picky about the processor you'd like to have in the computer since you've already purchased it, ... but just for your info., your motherboard does support certain quad processors..

Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: Computer_Commando on September 22, 2009, 12:36:52 PM
oh and its a compaq presario
Not designed to be upgradeable.  Proceed at your own risk!
Not saying you can't do it, but it was not intended to be a gaming or graphics intensive computer.  Sorta like trying to compete at the Indy 500 with a Kia.
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: bl00dcandy on September 24, 2009, 07:58:32 AM
its a standard vga connection
the monitor is a compaq q1859 18.5'' wide screen
but i wouldnt have a problem gettinga  different monitor

i mainly play
wow: wotlk
and fallout 3

it was sold to me from a friend
because he recently purchased an alienware
i figured for 300$ i couldnt complain 2 much
i had a 17'' monitor but since he gave me
the one taht came with his compaq
i gave it to my father

im concidering putting it on ebay or something
and making one with what i want

but id rather not go through the hastle fo reinstalling verything
and stuff like that

plus i dont entirely know to mcuh about building my own
i know liek what is good and such
but i dont understand teh whole ''pins'' and stuff
like i dnt egt how to match everything up properly

is there any site that woudl allow me to build my own
excluding sites sich as dell, hp, etc


ive looked on
cyberpowerpc.com
and is taht any good?

or shoud i jsut try to upgrade the one i have
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: EEVIAC on September 24, 2009, 10:07:37 AM
here are some PCIexpress cards that will fit into your PCIexpress x16 slot.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048%201069609641&name=PCI%20Express%20x16


Notice that there are many different flavors here. Since your current monitor uses VGA you'll need a card with at least one VGA connection + another connection of DVI OR VGA, depending on the extra monitor you want to add to your system...

And depending on what games you'd like to play keep in mind that you should pick a video card that also fulfills the hardware requirements of those games..

Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: computeruler on September 24, 2009, 12:55:19 PM
pcie 1 and 2 are backwards compatible.  You only need and can have 1 card.  It will be possible to get a quad.  If you want to get a new gpu, you would probably need a new psu
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: EEVIAC on September 24, 2009, 03:11:06 PM
pcie 1 and 2 are backwards compatible.

yes they are.....  but while looking for the best possible deal, consider that a 1.0 card may be cheaper, in some cases..
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: computeruler on September 24, 2009, 03:11:57 PM
and be really terrible.  The best one I saw was a 9400gt I think
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: EEVIAC on September 24, 2009, 03:19:33 PM
The video card you are referring to would not run at its maximum capabilities while installed in a PCIexpress 1.0 slot.  It would run at the max. speed of a 1.0 PCIe slot.

So if you have to decide between a 1.0 and 2.0 card, both with the same virtues except for the bus speed, a 1.0 card would likely be cheaper.  Installing a 2.0 card in that system wouldn't make any difference over a 1.0 card..

 
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: computeruler on September 24, 2009, 03:47:06 PM
a pie2 9600gt will do better then a pcie1 9400gt in a pcie1 board
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: EEVIAC on September 24, 2009, 04:15:16 PM
If a 2.0 card had more memory than a 1.0 card and supported higher res. I would agree

I was trying to say was that if you have to decide between a 2.0 and 1.0 card with virtually the same hardware (with exception to bus speed) the 1.0 card would likely be cheaper...

Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: computeruler on September 24, 2009, 05:49:56 PM
If there were 2 identical cards bedsides the fact of bus speeds, like on was pcie2 and one was pcie1, I guess it would make a little difference.  But I dont think they make cards that have pcie 1 and 2 versions
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: EEVIAC on September 24, 2009, 06:18:26 PM
Quote

But I dont think they make cards that have pcie 1 and 2 versions

I don't think they do either. 

I was trying to say that if a 1.0 and 2.0 card are "virtually" the same (meaning there are slight differences), then a 2.0 card wouldn't make a difference in performance, and a 1.0 card would probably be cheaper..


EEVIAC is now shutting down for maintenance and inspection    ..... thank you earth creature  8)
Title: Re: upgrading gfx card//cpu//getting dual monitors
Post by: neelchauhan on September 25, 2009, 01:40:37 PM
A 9600GT is about $80.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=geforce+9600gt
A 9800GT is about $90.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=+40000048&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&Subcategory=-1&description=geforce+9800&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=
Something under $80 is a 9500GT.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&Description=geforce%209500GT&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&Order=PRICE