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Other => Computer News => Topic started by: SuperDave on September 29, 2009, 01:47:39 PM
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Just announced today. MS releasing their new AV free. Beta has been out since June.
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First look: Microsoft Security Essentials impresses
Microsoft's new antimalware solution, Microsoft Security Essentials, is now available for Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7. Ars puts MSE through its paces and finds an unobtrusive app with a clean interface that protected us in the dark corners of the Internet.
Link (http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/09/first-look-microsoft-security-essentials-impresses.ars)
Download here (http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/)
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Rivals mock Microsoft's free security software
Although one of the top consumer security vendors welcomed Microsoft's Security Essentials to the market, another dismissed the new free software as a "poor product" that will "never be up to snuff."
Earlier today, Microsoft launched Security Essentials, its free antivirus and antispyware software suite, which has been in development for almost a year.
Link (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9138667/Rivals_mock_Microsoft_s_free_security_software)
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Feh, of course rivals would mock it. It hurts them. Most independent reviews have praised MSE. What we need is for a major team to through everything they have at it and see how it holds up.
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I've been running it in VM for a few days. Haven't put it through any tests yet but so far it seems fine.
A good review by Alex Eckelberry from Sunbelt Software. Thoughts on MSE (http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/thoughts-on-mse.html)
I read one blog where people were acting surprised that MS was releasing a free security product to protect "itself" from the big bad internet. I guess they forgot about Windows Defender and the Windows Firewall, both free and have been there for years. ::)
MSE isn't protecting Windows from itself. It's protecting users from themselves. Just like any other antivirus.
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Microsoft's free Security Essentials antivirus software identified 98% of over half a million malware samples, an accuracy rating an independent testing company called "very good" today. read full story here http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9138730/Independent_tester_Security_Essentials_very_good_
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Computer World is biased towards Symantec. Personally I don't trust anything they say.
The latest AV-Comparatives (http://www.av-comparatives.org/home) results gave MSE a 90.0% which was #14 on the list.
Caution PDF: > http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/ondret/avc_report23.pdf
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Here's (http://www.krisabel.ctv.ca/post/Review-e28093-Microsoft-Security-Essentials.aspx) another review.
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MSE I hear is based on Microsoft's Forefront software, which is the paid AV software for the businessman.
What is your view on AVAST 5? The latest AVAST version that will be out later this month? I'm using a beta 2 version of the AVAST 5 right now and it's pretty good for being just a beta product! Looks good to, imho!
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If I'm not wrong, MSE is based on OneCare, which was rather pretty poor tool.
If that's true, I don't expect much here.
In any case, it's for the best, if M$ just stays with Windows and avoid creating all other kind of crap, like browsers, firewalls, AVs, etc.
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/msestart/thread/5923e8ac-08bc-43ab-ad51-1a5392510f79
All of the Microsoft antimalware engines and detections are produced by the same Amti-Malware Engineering development group at Microsoft. These include those for OneCare, ForeFront, Windows Defender, the Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT) and now Microsoft Security Essentials. The only difference between most of these is the GUI interface provided in each product and the other management tools provided
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Just in the first week we saw well over 1.5 million downloads of Microsoft Security Essentials
Microsoft Security Essentials – Week One (http://blogs.technet.com/mmpc/archive/2009/10/15/microsoft-security-essentials-week-one.aspx)
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Moth syndrome ;D
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Good One ! !
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I don't like Microsoft branching out so much. they should have just kept making BASIC interpreters. :P
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ok
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ok
I was kind of mocking Broni :P
But also, I think Intel should have just kept making Memory chips. None of this processor stuff, that's not where the money is.
MS has a LOT of "tendrils" in all sorts of things. they started with a BASIC interpreter for the Altair, I believe. MS-DOS for the IBM-PC, and countless applications for it too; including a BASIC interpreter, BASIC compilers, C compilers. In fact, even today they still have one of the best Development environments available for windows-based development. SQL server and IIS are a powerful server-based processing that rival even Apache for commercial deployments. Microsoft Office is both loved and hated for many reasons, but they made their incursion into office applications long ago.
I think the line should have been drawn when they deployed a Game Console. I mean, they are a software company; it's almost analogous to somebody like Adobe creating a game console, which come to think of it is sort of funny. (every new version will go slower and try to start every morning when you turn on the coffee maker- the Adobe Game Player, found in the vault of stuff from Macromedia offices, and what they called the "Game MX"...
Anyway, MS- again- has products for seemingly everything, and their software products are often overpowered, too.
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It probably dates back to before some of the people on this forum were born but "ok" was the command prompt for the first Apples BASIC interpreter.
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It probably dates back to before some of the people on this forum were born but "ok" was the command prompt for the first Apples BASIC interpreter.
Integer BASIC was written by Steve Wozniak. It was originally available on Casette and was like the IBM PC and MS-BASIC, embedded in the ROM of the original Apple II.
It used to be called just Apple BASIC but was renamed when they licensed Microsoft BASIC for the newer version of "Applesoft" BASIC; which was slower then Apple BASIC... but could use floating point numbers.
Finally the Apple BASIC Prompt was a ">" and Applesoft BASIC used a "]"... the "Ok" was emitted when you typed BASIC directly into the interpreter.. for example:
>PRINT "HELLO"
HELLO
Ok.
>
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I remembered that "ok" was in there somewhere.
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I remembered that "ok" was in there somewhere.
yep, it was in all the interpreted BASICs... MS-BASIC, BASICA, GW-BASIC... Commodore BASIC too, I think.
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its great if MS introduce an anti virus.
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Why is it so great??
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SuXX....
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Why is it so great??
Precisely!!!
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Personally I think it'd be great if this was successful since it'd be nice to have only one anti-virus program out there. Since many computer issues are caused by anti-virus programs/firewalls.
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I would've thought M$ would be one of the best AV makers soon enough since after all, M$ designed the windows operating system.
I might consider going to M$ AV if it's reported to be doing good by the AV-Comparatives guys!
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it'd be nice to have only one anti-virus program out there
If by Micro$oft, I buy Mac next day ;D
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Then where's your free Mac AV?
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I would've thought M$ would be one of the best AV makers soon enough since after all, M$ designed the windows operating system.
The fact that MS developed windows has nothing to do with understanding the exact attack vectors, and exploits. The rest are simply trojans. Almost every single virus I've encountered was delivered via a infected file or download, not by magical exploitation of some obtuse feature of the IIS service or something.
The people who would be best to write an AV would be the people who write the viruses. Of course, aside from the obvious issue of trust, we'd then have to deal with background music while the AV was running and poor grammar.
And lastly- there is no "inside" knowledge of windows. The thing is- the people who make viruses, are using public documentation in almost all cases, namely the windows SDK. For example- most viruses "hook" the "CreateFile" function, so that everytime a executable is accessed it will be infected. This is not done through magical voodoo- but through API calls designed for this purpose.
One might then think, well, remove the ability to hook then!
a shallow view. Removing features simply because they can be exploited is a tad silly. The same routines are used by background virus scanners and any number of other programs.
Another example- keyloggers usually use a Windows keyboard Hook to intercept all keyboard events. many people claim that this should be removed.
These same people are obviously un-aware that this same keyboard hook is used by the menu subsystem of many programs, as well as a way of implementing a number of other features of practical value.
AND lastly, if MS suddenly becomes very successful and edging out competitors.... can anybody say "Anti-trust lawsuit"?
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I tried to install MSE on my daughter's laptop and I keep getting an error that it's not for 64 bit machines. This is strange since it just came out recently. Thoughts??
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Did you download 64-bit version?
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Thanks, Broni. I found the 64 bit version on Filehippo.
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They have it at MS too. Next page after you click download button.
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Here ya go. MSE 64 bit Download (http://majorgeeks.com/downloadget.php?id=6242&file=5&evp=9112d44b71f157fc5d7fcd7724b088ca)