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Software => Apple => Topic started by: Helpmeh on November 28, 2009, 07:05:43 PM

Title: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Helpmeh on November 28, 2009, 07:05:43 PM
Hey, I have a Mac emulator running OS 7.01 and I am wondering if there is a way to have an automated script (like a windows batch file), automatically copy all files from one drive to a storage drive. Also, if there is a way to do this, and other things can be done, I would also like to know which site can show me how to script/program to do it.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: socrates on November 30, 2009, 07:40:51 AM
While I'm sure it's possible to script in OS 7.1, nobody has software for it anymore, and I'm not familiar with OS 7.1. 

If you want to do it on OS X (any version) you can do it with built in tools or using shell scripts. 
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: BC_Programmer on November 30, 2009, 10:09:42 AM
Actually... from what I've read in my only mac book, "The Macintosh Bible, Third edition" (published 1991) and oriented towards the "newer" OS 7 system (hahaha)... it doesn't look like System 7 included any sort of scripting capabilities or anything like it built-in.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Helpmeh on November 30, 2009, 01:29:43 PM
Actually... from what I've read in my only mac book, "The Macintosh Bible, Third edition" (published 1991) and oriented towards the "newer" OS 7 system (hahaha)... it doesn't look like System 7 included any sort of scripting capabilities or anything like it built-in.
Umm can anyone point to where I can get my hands on a scripting program, or mpre importantly, how to browse the web on it. Also, I think I can get up to OS7.5, but I need someone with a mac to decompile some files.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: socrates on December 01, 2009, 08:18:15 AM
Actually... from what I've read in my only mac book, "The Macintosh Bible, Third edition" (published 1991) and oriented towards the "newer" OS 7 system (hahaha)... it doesn't look like System 7 included any sort of scripting capabilities or anything like it built-in.

Right.  I was only saying that OS X has scripting abilities built in.

However, it's very possible that there are some 3rd party apps for OS 7 (even like a macro recorder) that could do similar things that a batch script can do, depending on what the OP wants.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: socrates on December 01, 2009, 08:18:57 AM
Umm can anyone point to where I can get my hands on a scripting program, or mpre importantly, how to browse the web on it. Also, I think I can get up to OS7.5, but I need someone with a mac to decompile some files.

If you told us what exactly you're trying to do we may be able to help you find something that'll work.

Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Helpmeh on December 01, 2009, 03:22:17 PM
If you told us what exactly you're trying to do we may be able to help you find something that'll work.


I have a mac emulator on my flash drive (it works pretty well), and using up to OS 7.5 is perfectly legal because apple has posted the download links for free use.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: socrates on December 02, 2009, 10:24:30 AM
I have a mac emulator on my flash drive (it works pretty well), and using up to OS 7.5 is perfectly legal because apple has posted the download links for free use.

That's fine and dandy.  However, that's not what I'm asking.  What exactly are you trying to do with the batch script?  If you can tell me what you need to do we may be able to assist you in finding some solution
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Helpmeh on December 02, 2009, 03:46:59 PM
That's fine and dandy.  However, that's not what I'm asking.  What exactly are you trying to do with the batch script?  If you can tell me what you need to do we may be able to assist you in finding some solution
Hey, I have a Mac emulator running OS 7.01 and I am wondering if there is a way to have an automated script (like a windows batch file), automatically copy all files from one drive to a storage drive. Also, if there is a way to do this, and other things can be done, I would also like to know which site can show me how to script/program to do it.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: socrates on December 03, 2009, 06:39:12 AM


d'oh!  :-X

Sorry.

Since you're looking for scripting capabilities (and not just the copying of files to a flash drive), AFAIK, you're at a dead end.  As we said earlier, scripting is not built into OS 7. 

I'm definitely no expert on any Mac OS before 9.  I was a Windows and Linux only guy until Mac OS X came around, really.

I did a few searches on Google for what you're looking for and came up with nothing.

Any reason why you don't want to do the Hackintosh thing so you can use OS X?
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Helpmeh on December 03, 2009, 08:13:17 PM
d'oh!  :-X

Sorry.

Since you're looking for scripting capabilities (and not just the copying of files to a flash drive), AFAIK, you're at a dead end.  As we said earlier, scripting is not built into OS 7. 

I'm definitely no expert on any Mac OS before 9.  I was a Windows and Linux only guy until Mac OS X came around, really.

I did a few searches on Google for what you're looking for and came up with nothing.

Any reason why you don't want to do the Hackintosh thing so you can use OS X?
Isn't Hackintosh an ACTUAL computer? This is an emulator running on a flash drive. And I can basically get any version I wanted, if I could decompile the .bin files and had no regard for legal issues.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: socrates on December 08, 2009, 11:52:33 AM
hackintosh simply means running OS X on non-apple hardware.  It can, in fact, be run on a flash drive given the correct drivers (kexts) and a bios capable of booting off of a flash drive.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Helpmeh on December 08, 2009, 03:16:21 PM
hackintosh simply means running OS X on non-apple hardware.  It can, in fact, be run on a flash drive given the correct drivers (kexts) and a bios capable of booting off of a flash drive.

Can you point me in the right direction? This sounds really interesting. Do you know the minimum space requirements?
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: socrates on December 09, 2009, 08:58:05 AM
Can you point me in the right direction? This sounds really interesting. Do you know the minimum space requirements?

I'd be glad to.

Go here: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page (http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page)

They have installation guides, forums, and tons of information there.

Here's another site: http://ihackintosh.blogspot.com/2008/12/how-to-boot-mac-osx86-from-flash-drive.html (http://ihackintosh.blogspot.com/2008/12/how-to-boot-mac-osx86-from-flash-drive.html)

This site has instructions on setting up OS X (10.4 Tiger) on a flash drive.  The same principles would apply to Leopard or Snow Leopard if you want those.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Helpmeh on December 09, 2009, 03:37:18 PM
Wait, you have to boot to it? I'm sorta looking for an emulator that can run on xp (Which is how I got Mini vMac).
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: socrates on December 10, 2009, 11:48:25 AM
Wait, you have to boot to it? I'm sorta looking for an emulator that can run on xp (Which is how I got Mini vMac).


Ah... if that's the case, I'm not aware of any OS X emulators.  Sorry Charlie.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Helpmeh on December 10, 2009, 04:45:13 PM
Well, if I have the proper rom, I'm fairly sure I can run OSX, but that would be illegal. Which is why I only have 7.something.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: socrates on December 11, 2009, 07:50:07 AM
Well, if I have the proper rom, I'm fairly sure I can run OSX, but that would be illegal. Which is why I only have 7.something.

To my knowledge, illegal or not, you cannot emulate Mac OS X on windows.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: BC_Programmer on December 11, 2009, 09:25:00 AM
To my knowledge, illegal or not, you cannot emulate Mac OS X on windows.

I have it running on Pear PC.

I cannot find what folder I had it in though. curses.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Salmon Trout on December 11, 2009, 09:31:49 AM
To my knowledge, illegal or not, you cannot emulate Mac OS X on windows.

Your "knowledge" is wrong.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Helpmeh on December 11, 2009, 05:13:51 PM
Your "knowledge" is wrong.
Would Mini vMac work then, or do I require another emulator? And can I run it on Windows XP?
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: socrates on December 16, 2009, 03:05:05 PM
Your "knowledge" is wrong.

I'm not sure if this is a clever joke due to my name, or if you're serious.

Can you provide links if you can, in fact emulate OS X on windows?
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Salmon Trout on December 16, 2009, 03:27:50 PM
I'm not sure if this is a clever joke due to my name, or if you're serious.

Can you provide links if you can, in fact emulate OS X on windows?

I was responding to the first three words of this remark of yours:

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To my knowledge, illegal or not, you cannot emulate Mac OS X on windows.

And here are some links:

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Run Mac OS X on a PC

Although running Mac OS natively on PC hardware is not possible, there is another option--running Mac OS X on an emulator. In this article, I will show you how to install and run Mac OS X Panther on your PC using PearPC, a free, architecture-independent PowerPC platform that runs on PCs.


http://oreilly.com/windows/archive/PearPC.html

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PearPC - PowerPC Architecture Emulator

http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/about.html#features

Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: BC_Programmer on December 16, 2009, 03:53:17 PM
(http://bc-programming.com/images/pearpc.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Helpmeh on December 16, 2009, 06:04:29 PM
I didn't know you had a copy of OS X kicking around.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: BC_Programmer on December 16, 2009, 11:58:56 PM
I don't.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Helpmeh on December 17, 2009, 05:03:39 PM
I don't.
tut tut...you little pirate!

I am such a hypocrite, I download music all the time.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: socrates on December 18, 2009, 07:26:35 AM
I was responding to the first three words of this remark of yours:

And here are some links:

http://oreilly.com/windows/archive/PearPC.html

http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/about.html#features



I get that you were responding to my first three words, it was just came off as really rude. 
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Salmon Trout on December 18, 2009, 09:09:52 AM
I get that you were responding to my first three words, it was just came off as really rude. 

I am only responsible for what I wrote, not how you chose to read it. You dogmatically wrote "To my knowledge..." and then something which was actually not true. I answered. That's forum life.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: socrates on December 22, 2009, 08:52:58 AM
I am only responsible for what I wrote, not how you chose to read it. You dogmatically wrote "To my knowledge..." and then something which was actually not true. I answered. That's forum life.


Right.  But you could have just answered with: xyz is the solution, rather than "your knowledge is wrong."

It's not just about my interpretation.  There's also responsibility on your part (if you aren't trying to be an *censored*) to not write like an *censored*.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Salmon Trout on December 22, 2009, 09:03:46 AM
There's also responsibility on your part (if you aren't trying to be an *censored*) to not write like an *censored*.

Somebody has been writing like an *censored*, I agree with you about that. Not about their identity, I suspect. It is really bad when somebody posts like a jerkwad.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Helpmeh on December 22, 2009, 11:25:25 AM
Guys stop fighting!
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Salmon Trout on December 22, 2009, 11:53:28 AM
Guys stop fighting!

Fighting? I was agreeing with Socrates about "some posters" I thought.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: socrates on December 23, 2009, 06:24:24 AM
Fighting? I was agreeing with Socrates about "some posters" I thought.


how clever.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Salmon Trout on December 23, 2009, 06:45:26 AM
how clever.

Yes. I thought so. Maybe English is not your first language, and that is why you do not understand that "To my knowledge..." or "To my certain knowledge..." means "This is absolutely true; don't bother disagreeing because I know I am right because I have personal knowledge". It comes across as arrogant and what follows had better be true!

For example "To my certain knowledge Buckingham Palace is in London" (I have seen it) or "To my knowledge at sea level water boils at 100 degrees C" (I have done the experiment). You used the phrase to introduce a statement which was actually false, inviting ridicule. Which you got.

Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: socrates on December 23, 2009, 07:58:10 AM
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Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: Helpmeh on December 23, 2009, 09:21:38 AM
Guys! Socrates, please don't go! You've been a huge help here and Computerhope needs you. This isn't grade 10 English class, so I don't know why you are arguing about the meanings of certain words. This is a computer help forum, WHO CARES if someone posts something that you don't agree with! Take it up in a pm, or use the report abuse link! If you must argue with posts, do it in the off topic section.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: CBMatt on December 23, 2009, 07:25:07 PM
Let's all try to play nice here, fellas.  There's no need to argue over semantics.  After all, this is a computer help forum, not a pissing contest.  If it is so important for you two to carry on like this, you can save it for PM's.  If this continues, you can consider the thread locked.
Title: Re: Apple Automated Script
Post by: socrates on December 29, 2009, 08:58:21 AM
Let's all try to play nice here, fellas.  There's no need to argue over semantics.  After all, this is a computer help forum, not a pissing contest.  If it is so important for you two to carry on like this, you can save it for PM's.  If this continues, you can consider the thread locked.

I completely agree.