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Re: "Fastest"...!? Isn't this a superlative? I suppose not?!
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2010, 01:02:01 PM »
I'm pretty impressed with Chrome and Opera as far as performance
I'd definitely agree here. I'd say Chrome and Opera (on Windows) are the two fastest.

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Re: "Fastest"...!? Isn't this a superlative? I suppose not?!
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2010, 01:05:22 PM »
Not only that but, it could be the other way around. If the XP system has a faster processor and more memory- plus less crap running in the background- it could go faster. I believe that safari is built on webkit, which is the basis for konqueror. It is not a fast browser- konqueror- but an all purpose file browser with web browsing built in as a function. The Tiny releases use the same function with explorer.

Your best bet with any browser is to slim it down.


What was said earlier is true: optimized for that system.
If you want the best browser, build it from code.

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Re: "Fastest"...!? Isn't this a superlative? I suppose not?!
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2010, 12:01:18 PM »

If you want the best browser, build it from code.
That may be true but it sure is not practical for feasible for the vast majority of users.   ::)

I'd definitely agree here. I'd say Chrome and Opera (on Windows) are the two fastest.
I believe so, too.

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Re: "Fastest"...!? Isn't this a superlative? I suppose not?!
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2010, 05:20:53 PM »
I have zero issues with FireFox's speed and will stay where i'm at...
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Re: "Fastest"...!? Isn't this a superlative? I suppose not?!
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2010, 05:47:36 PM »
This is a speed test on browsers from PC Magazine.

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The standard test that tech reviewers use is the WebKit open source project's SunSpider JavaScript benchmark. But a few caveats are in order before anyone takes the results on these tests as the gospel on JavaScript performance. Even some of the most commonly called-upon JavaScript commands are not included in the tests. But they do show something  about performance—anyone who's used Chrome knows it's significantly faster than IE7, and its SunSpider number is an order of magnitude faster. All that said, here are my results, using a 2-GHz Athlon AMD 64 X2-based PC with 2GB RAM, with all unnecessary processes shut down via Task Manager.

Browser                                      SunSpider JavaScript
Benchmark result
(in milleseconds—lower is better)
Firefox 3.6                                            1,405
Google Chrome 4.0                                       749
Internet Explorer 7                                  47,119
Internet Explorer 8                                    9,015
Internet Explorer 9 Platform Preview    1,310
Opera 10.5                                               577
Safari 4.0                                               790

As you can see, the improvement from IE7 to IE8 to IE9 is remarkable. While Chrome, Opera, and Safari still lead by a good margin, the number-two browser Firefox is now in IE's rear-view mirror.

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Re: "Fastest"...!? Isn't this a superlative? I suppose not?!
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2010, 06:08:47 PM »
Not a fair comparison...IMHO
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Re: "Fastest"...!? Isn't this a superlative? I suppose not?!
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2010, 07:04:09 PM »
Not a fair comparison...IMHO
I agree.

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Re: "Fastest"...!? Isn't this a superlative? I suppose not?!
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2010, 07:21:21 PM »
Not a fair comparison...IMHO

How would you do it  differently?  I've never done any kind of speed test on browsers, but my gut feeling is that the relationships, or ratios between browser speeds, are fairly accurate.

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Re: "Fastest"...!? Isn't this a superlative? I suppose not?!
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2010, 08:11:17 PM »
First, they don't say wether IE7 is using it's compatibility mode or not, which could seriously change the results, probably bringing it right near IE8 and IE9.

Second: javascript benchmarks are meaningless. If they are going to test browser speed, they should test browser speed, not the speed of their javascript engine. Additionally, considering that all versions of IE use the jscript.dll that is part of the OS for javascript interpretation I find it hard to believe that the numbers would be so skewed.

Browser speed should be tested by disabling client-side script entirely and seeing how quickly it loads a page containing standard HTML.

Also, the sunspider test states that it is a "real-world" test, and yet, it says it doesn't test the DOM.

The main thing javascript is used for in the "real world" is for interacting WITH the DOM. therefore if one browsers DOM implementation is faster then another, this will influence the results of <real-world> browsing. it additionally states that it doesn't perform "micro" testing. and yet at the same time I witness tests that measure the speed of the bitwise operators. something I would call "micro-testing".

using a javascript speed test as a measure of a browser's speed is like measuring the speed of a game's sound subsystem to determine framerates.
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Re: "Fastest"...!? Isn't this a superlative? I suppose not?!
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2010, 09:58:36 PM »
System: P4 1280M RAM DEbian Lenny i386
Browser: Iceweasel
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RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
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Total:                 11212.0ms +/- 25.4%
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  3d:                   1211.6ms +/- 13.9%
    cube:                508.8ms +/- 34.4%
    morph:               400.4ms +/- 44.3%
    raytrace:            302.4ms +/- 43.1%

  access:               1350.8ms +/- 10.8%
    binary-trees:        125.2ms +/- 53.8%
    fannkuch:            607.0ms +/- 41.9%
    nbody:               405.8ms +/- 39.1%
    nsieve:              212.8ms +/- 34.6%

  bitops:                886.0ms +/- 18.9%
    3bit-bits-in-byte:   134.4ms +/- 42.6%
    bits-in-byte:        254.6ms +/- 21.9%
    bitwise-and:         189.6ms +/- 57.1%
    nsieve-bits:         307.4ms +/- 37.0%

  controlflow:           126.4ms +/- 62.7%
    recursive:           126.4ms +/- 62.7%

  crypto:                669.6ms +/- 33.7%
    aes:                 203.8ms +/- 46.0%
    md5:                 200.4ms +/- 32.6%
    sha1:                265.4ms +/- 82.7%

  date:                 1358.0ms +/- 48.5%
    format-tofte:        821.8ms +/- 60.3%
    format-xparb:        536.2ms +/- 50.8%

  math:                 1573.4ms +/- 36.5%
    cordic:              625.4ms +/- 51.9%
    partial-sums:        632.8ms +/- 24.3%
    spectral-norm:       315.2ms +/- 73.5%

  regexp:               1072.4ms +/- 61.5%
    dna:                1072.4ms +/- 61.5%

  string:               2963.8ms +/- 32.1%
    base64:              374.2ms +/- 62.7%
    fasta:               574.6ms +/- 36.8%
    tagcloud:            462.4ms +/- 41.8%
    unpack-code:        1079.6ms +/- 53.9%
    validate-input:      473.0ms +/- 29.8%


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Re: "Fastest"...!? Isn't this a superlative? I suppose not?!
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2010, 09:59:43 PM »
Same system
Browser: arora
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RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
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Total:                 29537.2ms +/- 28.3%
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  3d:                   4730.6ms +/- 64.8%
    cube:               1244.2ms +/- 52.9%
    morph:              1836.0ms +/- 55.0%
    raytrace:           1650.4ms +/- 86.3%

  access:               5426.8ms +/- 38.9%
    binary-trees:        635.6ms +/- 49.3%
    fannkuch:           2129.0ms +/- 37.1%
    nbody:              1245.2ms +/- 61.1%
    nsieve:             1417.0ms +/- 30.2%

  bitops:               4425.4ms +/- 30.8%
    3bit-bits-in-byte:  1047.0ms +/- 40.0%
    bits-in-byte:       1128.6ms +/- 33.2%
    bitwise-and:         917.0ms +/- 25.7%
    nsieve-bits:        1332.8ms +/- 26.7%

  controlflow:           652.6ms +/- 30.6%
    recursive:           652.6ms +/- 30.6%

  crypto:               2427.0ms +/- 30.9%
    aes:                 570.6ms +/- 38.6%
    md5:                 933.0ms +/- 33.1%
    sha1:                923.4ms +/- 25.7%

  date:                 2630.0ms +/- 58.3%
    format-tofte:        891.0ms +/- 51.1%
    format-xparb:       1739.0ms +/- 62.1%

  math:                 3608.0ms +/- 44.0%
    cordic:             2092.0ms +/- 62.2%
    partial-sums:        803.2ms +/- 18.3%
    spectral-norm:       712.8ms +/- 23.0%

  regexp:                973.8ms +/- 42.7%
    dna:                 973.8ms +/- 42.7%

  string:               4663.0ms +/- 37.3%
    base64:             1075.2ms +/- 35.9%
    fasta:              1052.8ms +/- 30.3%
    tagcloud:            714.6ms +/- 33.5%
    unpack-code:         961.8ms +/- 49.7%
    validate-input:      858.6ms +/- 58.4%

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Re: "Fastest"...!? Isn't this a superlative? I suppose not?!
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2010, 10:11:55 PM »
Machine specs recently given. OpenBSD 4.6 x86
Browser: Konqueror

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Re: "Fastest"...!? Isn't this a superlative? I suppose not?!
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2010, 10:15:26 PM »
OpenBSD, same machine
Browser: firefox
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RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
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Total:                  7558.6ms +/- 2.2%
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  3d:                    899.8ms +/- 0.9%
    cube:                374.8ms +/- 0.9%
    morph:               252.0ms +/- 1.7%
    raytrace:            273.0ms +/- 2.5%

  access:               1118.4ms +/- 1.3%
    binary-trees:        259.2ms +/- 1.1%
    fannkuch:            366.0ms +/- 1.8%
    nbody:               400.4ms +/- 1.8%
    nsieve:               92.8ms +/- 1.7%

  bitops:                667.4ms +/- 2.9%
    3bit-bits-in-byte:   101.6ms +/- 0.7%
    bits-in-byte:        135.0ms +/- 1.1%
    bitwise-and:         215.8ms +/- 8.8%
    nsieve-bits:         215.0ms +/- 1.2%

  controlflow:            73.6ms +/- 1.5%
    recursive:            73.6ms +/- 1.5%

  crypto:                369.6ms +/- 5.8%
    aes:                 146.8ms +/- 14.9%
    md5:                 108.6ms +/- 0.6%
    sha1:                114.2ms +/- 0.9%

  date:                  981.2ms +/- 5.8%
    format-tofte:        399.2ms +/- 2.3%
    format-xparb:        582.0ms +/- 8.3%

  math:                  948.6ms +/- 12.1%
    cordic:              402.4ms +/- 30.0%
    partial-sums:        392.2ms +/- 3.0%
    spectral-norm:       154.0ms +/- 4.0%

  regexp:                422.4ms +/- 3.3%
    dna:                 422.4ms +/- 3.3%

  string:               2077.6ms +/- 0.9%
    base64:              236.2ms +/- 3.0%
    fasta:               611.4ms +/- 2.3%
    tagcloud:            340.8ms +/- 1.6%
    unpack-code:         561.0ms +/- 0.5%
    validate-input:      328.2ms +/- 2.9%

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Re: "Fastest"...!? Isn't this a superlative? I suppose not?!
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2010, 10:15:49 PM »
I absolutely hate Konqueror.

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Re: "Fastest"...!? Isn't this a superlative? I suppose not?!
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2010, 10:21:28 PM »
Same machine
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