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Re: Computer class, first computer?
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2010, 09:15:35 PM »
Alan Turing was British...
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Re: Computer class, first computer?
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2010, 10:26:50 PM »
Have some posts been deleted from this thread  ???
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Re: Computer class, first computer?
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2010, 10:51:11 PM »
Why would you want to know?
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Re: Computer class, first computer?
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2010, 11:33:38 PM »
Quote from: Geek-9pm on April 18, 2010, 10:51:11 PM
Why would you want to know?
Because I started the thread. And I'm quite sure i made a few posts that seem to be missing. And I think Treval & harry 48 made posts too that I no longer see.

Were some deleted, or split into other threads or what happened?
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Re: Computer class, first computer?
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2010, 11:51:28 PM »
Quote from: Cityscape on April 18, 2010, 11:33:38 PM
Because I started the thread. And I'm quite sure i made a few posts that seem to be missing. And I think Treval & harry 48 made posts too that I no longer see.

Were some deleted, or split into other threads or what happened?

AFAIK the only posts that were deleted were Treval's...
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Re: Computer class, first computer?
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2010, 07:51:03 AM »
Quote from: BC_Programmer on April 18, 2010, 11:51:28 PM
AFAIK the only posts that were deleted were Treval's...
Well I'm sure at least 1 of mine was deleted.
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Re: Computer class, first computer?
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2010, 01:47:03 PM »
Quote from: Salmon Trout on April 18, 2010, 01:47:52 PM
Not a very well-informed one, it would seem. Would you care to name it?
A computer history timeline done by Graham Mulreay of www.spaceandscience.co.uk
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Re: Computer class, first computer?
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2010, 01:58:17 PM »
Quote from: Cityscape on April 19, 2010, 01:47:03 PM
A computer history timeline done by Graham Mulreay of www.spaceandscience.co.uk

Couldn't find it; could you give a link to the actual page? Anyhow, who is this Mulreay guy? A person with a website. If he got the first computer thing wrong, how can you trust anything he says?
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Re: Computer class, first computer?
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2010, 01:59:14 PM »
Quote from: Salmon Trout on April 19, 2010, 01:58:17 PM
Couldn't find it; could you give a link to the actual page? Anyhow, who is this Mulreay guy? A person with a website. If he got the first computer thing wrong, how can you trust anything he says?


he's a member here, I think he posted a timeline on the forum somewhere. I'm pretty sure it included the collossus, but I'm not certain.
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Re: Computer class, first computer?
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2010, 02:08:50 PM »
Quote from: Salmon Trout on April 19, 2010, 01:58:17 PM
Couldn't find it; could you give a link to the actual page? Anyhow, who is this Mulreay guy? A person with a website. If he got the first computer thing wrong, how can you trust anything he says?

Timeline (or one of it's copies) is here: http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php?topic=86901.0
Mulreay is a computer hope member, I'm surprised you don't know of him.
Quote from: BC_Programmer on April 19, 2010, 01:59:14 PM
I'm pretty sure it included the collossus, but I'm not certain.
No, he didn't include the collossus.
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Re: Computer class, first computer?
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2010, 02:39:54 PM »
Anyhow, I got the dates for the Harvard and Colossus from these things called "books"...

Computer: A History of the Information Machine (Campbell-Kelly and Aspray, 2nd Edition 2004)

Colossus: The Secrets of Bletchley Park's Codebreaking Computers. (Jack Copeland Oxford University Press 2006)
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Re: Computer class, first computer?
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2010, 02:44:35 PM »
The timeline misses out quite a lot of things, including "Napier's Bones" (1617) and as I mentioned earlier, Colossus and the Zuse machines, as well as a number of pioneering British machines of the period 1945-1960. In any case it is hardly research material suitable for a teacher preparing a class.
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Re: Computer class, first computer?
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2010, 02:51:10 PM »
Quote from: Salmon Trout on April 19, 2010, 01:58:17 PM
Couldn't find it; could you give a link to the actual page? Anyhow, who is this Mulreay guy? A person with a website. If he got the first computer thing wrong, how can you trust anything he says?


WHO is mulreay  :o ??? ::)


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  Mulreay       Expert 2009-03-22 2499   
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http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=63398
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Re: Computer class, first computer?
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2010, 03:25:53 PM »
Quote from: Me
Anyhow, who is this Mulreay guy?

I meant, "What is his status as a historian of computing other than a guy with a web site or a guy who posted a timeline on Computer Hope?"

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Re: Computer class, first computer?
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2010, 04:03:10 PM »


This device was made in a939 and was used in 1940 for remove accese computations done by a human sending instructions to the device over a phone line using Teletype technology. The calculations were programmable and complex. It was not theoretical, nor only a classroom novelty. It really worked.

Should it be disqualified because it required elector mechanical devices?

Computers with no electron mechanical cores were not  _______.
(Please finish my sentence, my brain has a stack overflow.)

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