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midwestguy

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    Firefox slow - Chrome a better choice?
    « on: April 25, 2010, 04:58:40 PM »
    I've been having some reoccurring issues with Firefox.  Slow, not as responsive as it used to be. 
    I use Vista. 
    I tried chrome and its like my computer has been reborn!  Anyone give reasons not to switch? 

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    Re: Firefox slow - Chrome a better choice?
    « Reply #1 on: April 25, 2010, 07:41:07 PM »
    Well, I love Firefox for its customization, but if speed is what you need (lol...i made a rhyme), then stick with chrome or opera. It will take a long time before google will be able to customize its browser to the extent Mozilla has.
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    Re: Firefox slow - Chrome a better choice?
    « Reply #2 on: April 25, 2010, 07:56:02 PM »
    Try starting Firefox inn the safe mode and see if it speeds up.

    Start > all programs > Mozilla firefox > safe mode

    That will disable all your add ons.  It could be one of them is your problem.  If it is you need to add them back on one at a time to figure out which on is the problem.

    Chrome is slightly faster, but not by much.


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    Re: Firefox slow - Chrome a better choice?
    « Reply #3 on: April 25, 2010, 09:34:44 PM »
    I tried chrome ...  Anyone give reasons not to switch? 
    No reason not to switch if find Chrome suits you OK.  It's speed is most likely attributable to Chrome being a barebones browser. 

    I would try rthompson80819's suggestion if you would really rather use Firefox.  His suggestion is a good troubleshooting approach.

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    Re: Firefox slow - Chrome a better choice?
    « Reply #4 on: April 26, 2010, 09:55:41 AM »
    What is the speed difference between Chrome and f.f . Is it something noticeable ::)

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    Re: Firefox slow - Chrome a better choice?
    « Reply #5 on: April 26, 2010, 11:04:54 AM »
    I don't see a noticeable difference between them on my Vista notebook PC.  Keep in mind Firefox is very customizable and some users install many Add-ons for Firefox.  I suspect that may slow Firefox down a bit for some users.

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    Re: Firefox slow - Chrome a better choice?
    « Reply #6 on: April 26, 2010, 11:21:22 AM »
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    some users install many Add-ons for Firefox.  I suspect that may slow Firefox down a bit for some users.
    agree.
    And I asked this question earlier.
    Some Add-ons cause slow because they need time to work. Such as weather

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    Re: Firefox slow - Chrome a better choice?
    « Reply #7 on: April 26, 2010, 12:10:52 PM »
    Right.  Also, some add-ons may not have been tested enough before being released and may have defects.  A year or so ago, I tried a skin for Firefox; it was called Walnut.  The add-on applied the skin's look to not only the main window but to other panels such as the small panel that opens when you add a bookmark. It seemed to work fine for the main Firefox window but I discovered it slowed Firefox when working with Bookmarks.  I removed it.  Now, I have a "Persona" installed.  Personas are like skins but they only apply to the main Firefox window, not to other panels that open from the main menu, as did Walnut.

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    Re: Firefox slow - Chrome a better choice?
    « Reply #8 on: April 26, 2010, 12:39:20 PM »
    It's speed is most likely attributable to Chrome being a barebones browser. 

    For extremely loose definitions of "barebones".

    IMO a "barebones" browser is something like Lynx- which is faster then either IE, Firefox, or Chrome.

    Re: addons: if I install the latest Flash 10 plugin, Firefox crashes every 20 minutes. So I just reverted back to the flash 8 plugin and use IE if I encounter a site that needs version 10.
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    Re: Firefox slow - Chrome a better choice?
    « Reply #9 on: April 26, 2010, 12:54:07 PM »
    For extremely loose definitions of "barebones".

    IMO a "barebones" browser is something like Lynx- which is faster then either IE, Firefox, or Chrome.

    Actually, I saw Firefox described as "barebones" by someone else.  It made some sense so I used it here.  I've also see the term minimalist used in describing it.  I haven't used something like Lynx, so I'll take your word on that.  The point is that Chrome is minimalist compared to IE and Firefox and, IMO, Opera, too.

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    Re: addons: if I install the latest Flash 10 plugin, Firefox crashes every 20 minutes. So I just reverted back to the flash 8 plugin and use IE if I encounter a site that needs version 10.
    Hmm, I haven't had the problem.  But, I've noticed some sites that are heavy-laden with Flash content can make CPU usage shoot upward, regardless of what browser I'm using.  Example: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/.  The large scrolling display of books on the upper part of the page seems to be the culprit.  If I click the pause button not to stop the scrolling display of books, CPU usage quickly drops.  Resume scrolling and CPU usage jumps up again.  And, it's the same with IE, Firefox, and Chrome.

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    Re: Firefox slow - Chrome a better choice?
    « Reply #10 on: April 26, 2010, 01:20:49 PM »
    Actually, I saw Firefox described as "barebones" by someone else.  It made some sense so I used it here.  I've also see the term minimalist used in describing it.  I haven't used something like Lynx, so I'll take your word on that.  The point is that Chrome is minimalist compared to IE and Firefox and, IMO, Opera, too.
    Lynx browses just through text- perhaps, the word that should be used when describing Chrome is more along the lines of "no frills", or, to be precise, "No frills interface".

    Personally, I avoid using any program that "customizes" the titlebar, as chrome does. the minimize, close, etc buttons are still there, but the control box (which nobody uses, for the most part) which would normally be represented by an icon is not... it's a tad disallusioning and is a trait usually only held by dialog boxes.

    The first <major> streamlining by ANY Web browser was actually made by Internet Explorer- I believe it was version 3; this was the actual use of "windowless" controls, for things like text boxes. I suppose this bears some explanation.

    This comes as a surprise to many, but a "window" isn't simply the windows you can move around, maximize, etc, but also includes all the things on a window, such as a command button, text boxes, etc.
    Early versions of Internet Browsers on Windows would often use, for example, the windows textbox control for textarea and input items. This makes sense- however, when you consider how many of these "windows" might be on a given page it becomes very slow. The internet Explorer team re-implemented all the controls used in HTML, such as textarea, option buttons, buttons, etc as Windowless controls, which essentially means they are simply drawn onto the web page, much as text would be; the actual clicking and other actions are interpreted by the browser window, which checks manually to see if any of the windowless controls had been clicked.

    This made IE5 nearly twice as fast as Navigator 5 or whatever the competition was at the time.

    Nowadays, all the browsers make use of windowless controls, so it's not really as important.

    Personally, I've found the whole concept of "browser speed" to make absolutely no sense. the speed of browsing between pages is entirely dependent on internet connection speed- and apparent speed is hardly a smart metric to go by (for example, a browser could take 10 seconds to render a page entirely and still be considered slower then one that takes 5 seconds- if the first one starts displaying the incomplete page right away, and the 5 second one waits until it has all the information it needs before drawing anything.

    Apparent speed comparisons are so personal and based entirely on placebo it's ridiculous to even pretend there is any way of measuring them. and the speed of the browser itself usually corresponds to system speed, and even the slowest machine I've ran it on (350Mhz) was able to run FF at a reasonable speed, so the only reason FF would ever be "apparently" slower then chrome, or any other browser would be due to plugins.




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      Re: Firefox slow - Chrome a better choice?
      « Reply #11 on: April 26, 2010, 06:22:16 PM »
      What is the speed difference between Chrome and f.f . Is it something noticeable ::)

      For me and my computer, Chrome is way faster than FF.  Even with FF in safemode

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        Re: Firefox slow - Chrome a better choice?
        « Reply #12 on: May 01, 2010, 11:58:09 PM »
        I prefer Chrome. It isn't perfect yet, but it is a fast browser. It also has built in protection that will steer you away from "unsafe" sites before you unintentionally pick up a virus!

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          Re: Firefox slow - Chrome a better choice?
          « Reply #13 on: May 07, 2010, 05:35:57 AM »
          for me... Firefox is better then chrome.. Its slow due to the addons which we use... but overall I work properly with Firefox.... With Firefox 3.1, you know you'll have a powerful library of add-ons.....

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          Re: Firefox slow - Chrome a better choice?
          « Reply #14 on: May 07, 2010, 10:06:41 AM »
          I tried chrome and its like my computer has been reborn!  Anyone give reasons not to switch? 
          There are no reasons not to switch. I've switched many times (firefox to chrome & opera, Outlook to thunderbird, Digsby to Pidgin, MS office to openoffice).
          In fact if you're feeling real brave you can even switch from Windows to Linux.

          As for speed I find chrome a tad faster but not much. Chrome and Opera do come out a bit faster in the benchmarks.