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Re: Downgrade from Windows 7 to VIsta
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2010, 09:07:33 AM »
I guess you're just too young to understand how insulting and offensive you are. And watch your mouth.

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Re: Downgrade from Windows 7 to VIsta
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2010, 09:24:38 AM »
So as i said before people like what they know even if the new might work better.
Yes. this applies to everybody. wether it be people working in a mill using old but perfectly functional equipment or factory workers who prefer to keep their jobs rather then be replaced by a bunch of machines. People instinctively know that every change brings a chance for failure.

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And by the way most Granny's are to computer illiterate to understand how to turn the f-ing computer on and off! So before you get all pissy why don't you take a step back and look at the majority instad of the minority 
Most "granny's?" seriously? we're not talking about old spinsters here, you said "old people" you can't later decide that you actually meant a more strict subset. you already said old people. Besides, Most people <CAN> figure out how to turn a computer on and off, your making a brash and unrealistic over simplification using the obviously <minority> samplings you've observed.

Well, guess what? Obviously you don't know very many old people! typographers in their 70's and 80's use computers to make their type design faster (faster, not easier), and the very same "old people" you so quickly dismiss as part of the majority (what the *censored* are we talking about here? Florida? Last time I checked people +65 were not a majority demographic) also contain the majority of people that brought the computer into existence. John Bardeen, Walter Brattain, and William Shockley are all "old people" but without them you wouldn't be in any position to tell them how useless and stupid they and their demographic are. (I'm not going to spell out what they did, since if you are as enlightened as you evidently believe you should already know).

returning to your first post:

or some people like what they no. like old people or people that dont understand computers

People that don't understand computers? Can you explain the intricate workings of the logic gates in any given CPU? No? Neither could I, probably. so we don't understand computers either. Do you have the PCI specification memorized? No? can you create a basic PCI video card using two pieces of gold foil, three 64K-bit memory chips and a sodering iron? No? Neither could I.

My point is, before you make an over-generalization you should at least make sure that you understand what the *censored* you are overgeneralizing. saying "Old people" is an overgeneralization. saying "people that don't understand computers" is an overgeneralization too, because not only does it imply that old people as a whole (with absolutely zero exceptions) understand computers, but it also is completely open to the very definition of "understand" that you are using, which is impossible to ascertain. What did you mean by "understand"? ability to start and use notepad? the ability to construct a small scale model of the UNIVAC? Thankfully your blatant and completely terse method of posting leaves a lot of content out at the expense of increase ambiguity, and then when people attack that ambiguity based on what they resolve out of it you turn into defense mode and start saying we should "all look at the big picture and look at the majority rather then the minority" and yet, in a critical final ironic twist, your entire argument was based on your observations of a minority of what you are calling the majority, otherwise you would be well aware of the fact that "old people" are not a majority demographic as well as the fact that the ambiguous nature of your classification of "people that don't understand computers" makes it impossible to measure at all.

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why did you capitalize "Granny"?
I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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Re: Downgrade from Windows 7 to VIsta
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2010, 09:26:53 AM »
why did you capitalize "Granny"?
Because he doesn't "no" any better ;)

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Re: Downgrade from Windows 7 to VIsta
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2010, 09:27:54 AM »
Because he doesn't "no" any better ;)

maybe one day "there" learn...  :P
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Re: Downgrade from Windows 7 to VIsta
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2010, 11:26:42 AM »
You know, despite being long and wordy and all, BC actually made good sense. 1000 points to BC, for those of you keeping score.

Or translated for the grammar impaired:
U no, he b yappin a lot, but dat dood nos wat he b sayin. 1000 cookies 2 BC, 4 tho of u keeping score.



This is for all the Granny's out there! Also, I just farted, and now I'm going to bed.

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Re: Downgrade from Windows 7 to VIsta
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2010, 11:29:35 AM »
Quote from: the jerkwad
Granny's
1. misused apostrophe, and why the capital G?
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Re: Downgrade from Windows 7 to VIsta
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2010, 11:31:42 AM »
Yes. this applies to everybody. wether it be people working in a mill using old but perfectly functional equipment or factory workers who prefer to keep their jobs rather then be replaced by a bunch of machines. People instinctively know that every change brings a chance for failure.
Most "granny's?" seriously? we're not talking about old spinsters here, you said "old people" you can't later decide that you actually meant a more strict subset. you already said old people. Besides, Most people <CAN> figure out how to turn a computer on and off, your making a brash and unrealistic over simplification using the obviously <minority> samplings you've observed.

Well, guess what? Obviously you don't know very many old people! typographers in their 70's and 80's use computers to make their type design faster (faster, not easier), and the very same "old people" you so quickly dismiss as part of the majority (what the *censored* are we talking about here? Florida? Last time I checked people +65 were not a majority demographic) also contain the majority of people that brought the computer into existence. John Bardeen, Walter Brattain, and William Shockley are all "old people" but without them you wouldn't be in any position to tell them how useless and stupid they and their demographic are. (I'm not going to spell out what they did, since if you are as enlightened as you evidently believe you should already know).

returning to your first post:

People that don't understand computers? Can you explain the intricate workings of the logic gates in any given CPU? No? Neither could I, probably. so we don't understand computers either. Do you have the PCI specification memorized? No? can you create a basic PCI video card using two pieces of gold foil, three 64K-bit memory chips and a sodering iron? No? Neither could I.

My point is, before you make an over-generalization you should at least make sure that you understand what the *censored* you are overgeneralizing. saying "Old people" is an overgeneralization. saying "people that don't understand computers" is an overgeneralization too, because not only does it imply that old people as a whole (with absolutely zero exceptions) understand computers, but it also is completely open to the very definition of "understand" that you are using, which is impossible to ascertain. What did you mean by "understand"? ability to start and use notepad? the ability to construct a small scale model of the UNIVAC? Thankfully your blatant and completely terse method of posting leaves a lot of content out at the expense of increase ambiguity, and then when people attack that ambiguity based on what they resolve out of it you turn into defense mode and start saying we should "all look at the big picture and look at the majority rather then the minority" and yet, in a critical final ironic twist, your entire argument was based on your observations of a minority of what you are calling the majority, otherwise you would be well aware of the fact that "old people" are not a majority demographic as well as the fact that the ambiguous nature of your classification of "people that don't understand computers" makes it impossible to measure at all.

Additionally...

why did you capitalize "Granny"?

i caped it cause my blackberry did it for me

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Re: Downgrade from Windows 7 to VIsta
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2010, 11:38:27 AM »
i caped it cause my blackberry did it for me

I didn't ask why your words were wearing capes! I asked why you capitalized (not "capped" either, if you go around "capping" your letters your screen and paper must be full of bullet holes).


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Re: Downgrade from Windows 7 to VIsta
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2010, 11:39:33 AM »
Holy swiss cheese Batman  8)

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Re: Downgrade from Windows 7 to VIsta
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2010, 11:55:32 AM »
wait a minute! Of course! when he said "Granny" he didn't mean granny, because Granny is the short form of SUPER GRANNY! and she wears a cape and flies around the world saving people from knitting disasters.

<group of old sterotype folk sitting on a park bench>

"Oh NO! I'll never finish this sweater before my grandchildren arrive"

stereotypical grumpy old man: "Why! Back in my day we had to knit our own grandchildren out of old lint from the dryer! we didn't get all lazy and have our kids make them for us!"


<Super granny theme song>

sterotypical grumpy old man: What is that awful racket! back in my day, music had soul, it did! Why I recall the day the music died as if it were yesterday

"What's that in the sky? Marcel?"

stereotypical grumpy old man: Back in my day we didn't ask two questions in the same paragraph, inpolite it was, why I recall I once asked my father, 'father, can I borrow two-pence? please?' and he rightly smacked me upside the head, 'we work hard for our two-pence around here sonny' he said. And he made me smoke a whole pack of cigars he did!

marcel:what? hold on, let me get my glasses...

<ten seconds later>

"it's a bird!"

stereotypical grumpy old man: back in my day birds knew to keep  their distance from the me, you didn't have any birds asking no man out for a date, and you didn't see them exposing their naughty thigh bits like a prostitute, nope, thems were simpler times.

"It's a plane!"

stereotypical grumpy old man: back in my day, we didn't have no fancy flying machines, we were happy if we could slide on a cardboard box down a grassy hill"

"It's SUPER GRANNY"

stereotypical grumpy old man: eh! Super granny you say sounds like my kind of girl!

marcel: but, stereotypical grumpy old man, you'll need to double-date with her sister too!

stereotypical grumpy old man: What? Why back in my day, we didn't have siblings, I remember when I was a young lad, all my brothers and sisters hated me horribly because I was an only child.

"OMG! super granny! I saw her on TV!"

stereotypical grumpy old man: back in my day, we didn't have no television, why, for entertainment we'd just slap a blind man on a unicycle and have a good ol' time watching the feller fall down! sometimes we'd find a richer and we'd make their guide dawg ride a tricycle, good times, those.


Super granny: never fear, dear, here, let me fix up that stitching for you

And with that, she'd pull out her trusty pair of PURE GOLD knitting needles, use her super knitting speed to knit 10 percent faster then the average knitter, and take off into the sky again.

"Wow! she must have been great at track and field!"

stereotypical grumpy old man: back in my day we didn't have no wimmins in the track and field, no sir, sports was a mans domain, why I recall when my sister Sally wanted to do the long jump, there was much bickering, and my father said "Eat this chestnut!" and that's when he gave me the train set that my older brother wanted, at which point the rivalry between me and the neighbours dog began...
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Re: Downgrade from Windows 7 to VIsta
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2010, 12:14:38 PM »
Loved the posts as always BC but my take on the original question is this.
People will sometimes revert make to the thing they know the most ergo they move back into there 'comfort zone'.
It's not necessarily about how much you know or how little for that matter but about what suites the individual.
I used to use XP a fair few years back and have now been using Vista for 3-4yrs and you know what, Vista is now my comfort zone where XP used to be. I can't imagine myself going back to XP as I have moved on.. maybe not forward but on.
I can certainly imagine myself using Win7 in the near future as I like to test myself and learn new things. Oh and I do use Linux as well but not as often as Vista.

That's just me and as I say everyone is different.  :)

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Re: Downgrade from Windows 7 to VIsta
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2010, 08:07:58 PM »
I like turtles.

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Re: Downgrade from Windows 7 to VIsta
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2010, 08:37:28 PM »
Several years ago, my parents lived in a 55+ community.  EVERYONE there had a computer.  They used it mostly for email to keep in touch with their kids and grandkids. and to send pictures back and forth.  A lot did games, cookbooks, etc.

Most of them couldn't change out a hard drive, but then most of the general populace can't either.

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Re: Downgrade from Windows 7 to VIsta
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2010, 11:29:35 PM »
Just because they could check their little emails dosent mean their computer smart... Just think you can also train a monkey to use a touch screen to do basic math but that dosent mean they understand it.

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Re: Downgrade from Windows 7 to VIsta
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2010, 11:39:25 PM »
Just because they could check their little emails dosent mean their computer smart... Just think you can also train a monkey to use a touch screen to do basic math but that dosent mean they understand it.

um you mean there's people who can drive cars merely by knowing how to move their feet and arms properly and caring less about anything else except needing gas?

but i am wondering who would downgrade from win 7 to vista anyway????