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    Reduce ping?
    « on: July 30, 2010, 12:01:22 AM »
    Are there any methods to reduce ping with the use of some time of software?
    I'm using a dongle at the moment and the ping reaches 150 - sometimes 1000. :S

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    Re: Reduce ping?
    « Reply #1 on: July 30, 2010, 03:41:28 AM »
    Using a wireless dongle, your ping will be high, it's the nature of those things.
    To reduce your ping, go wired.

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      « Reply #2 on: July 30, 2010, 05:23:18 AM »
      sigh.   :-\ :'(
      bummer.
      thanks

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        « Reply #3 on: July 31, 2010, 07:39:52 AM »
        Can you please explain the nature of Ping?

        I mean, are you trying to PING your DNS servers, some other website, default gateway..?

        Changing DNS servers & using technology as encompassed within Opera's Browser does significantly reduces high ping times effect. 8)


        Choose Opera web browser, enable TURBO mode &...Zoom...your web-pages will render at a Ferrari speed! :o

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          « Reply #4 on: July 31, 2010, 05:18:18 PM »
          Ping is mainly identified in gaming, as i do alot of it. Going wired WILL NOT improve ping. Well it will, but buy 1-2Ms per 10 M of cable.(Go up) There is no way of improving your ping, unless you live closer to where the site/game is hosted.

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          Re: Reduce ping?
          « Reply #5 on: August 01, 2010, 03:37:25 AM »
          Ping is mainly identified in gaming, as i do alot of it.
          As well as anything else where networking is involved.

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          You sure?
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          but buy 1-2Ms per 10 M of cable.(Go up)
          Huh?

          Could you please clarify what you mean?  I can't seem to extract any sense from your posts.

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            « Reply #6 on: August 01, 2010, 05:56:29 AM »
            As well as anything else where networking is involved.
            You sure?Ah.
            Huh?

            Could you please clarify what you mean?  I can't seem to extract any sense from your posts.

            Callum, sorry still becoming used to this forum.

            I ment, each 10 meter of cable used, you will loose 1-2Ms. Lowering your ping. Regards.
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            Re: Reduce ping?
            « Reply #7 on: August 01, 2010, 08:22:29 AM »
            No....I don't think so....

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              « Reply #8 on: August 01, 2010, 10:19:06 AM »
              During my work expierience at the RAF in Kent, we tested it, this is the only way i know. Believe me the guys there know what their on about.
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              Re: Reduce ping?
              « Reply #9 on: August 01, 2010, 10:39:32 AM »
              So if I ping Google's servers and receive a 42ms result, does that mean their server is ~420 meters away?

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              Re: Reduce ping?
              « Reply #10 on: August 01, 2010, 10:48:44 AM »
              During my work expierience at the RAF in Kent, we tested it, this is the only way i know. Believe me the guys there know what their on about.
              Give it a break. You're 15 - we're not impressed with your "work experience at the RAF...". Want to impress us? Start posting intelligent, correct information.

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                « Reply #11 on: August 01, 2010, 12:34:42 PM »
                Its not like that, and i was not trying to impress ANYONE its just ive been told by proper people
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                « Reply #12 on: August 02, 2010, 03:48:35 AM »
                I'm still not following ...

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                Re: Reduce ping?
                « Reply #13 on: August 02, 2010, 05:35:22 AM »
                Ditto....  You may experience ping issues if you're hooked up to your router with a 100m ethernet cable, but it wouldn't be a large impact.

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                Re: Reduce ping?
                « Reply #14 on: August 02, 2010, 10:28:03 AM »
                During my work expierience at the RAF in Kent, we tested it, this is the only way i know. Believe me the guys there know what their on about.

                you didn't test it very well. First, we're talking about a wireless dongle.

                Second, the length of a cat5 cable has zero effect on ping time. I just did some tests myself.

                Wifi:


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                Pinging www.l.google.com [74.125.53.103] with 32 bytes of data:
                Reply from 74.125.53.103: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=55
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                Ping statistics for 74.125.53.103:
                    Packets: Sent = 30, Received = 30, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
                Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
                    Minimum = 19ms, Maximum = 47ms, Average = 23ms

                Short wired ethernet (it's about 3 feet long):

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                Pinging www.l.google.com [74.125.53.105] with 32 bytes of data:
                Reply from 74.125.53.105: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=55
                Reply from 74.125.53.105: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=55
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                Ping statistics for 74.125.53.105:
                    Packets: Sent = 30, Received = 30, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
                Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
                    Minimum = 20ms, Maximum = 24ms, Average = 22ms


                and finally, a 25 foot ethernet cable I have for some reason:

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                Pinging www.l.google.com [74.125.53.103] with 32 bytes of data:
                Reply from 74.125.53.103: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=55
                Reply from 74.125.53.103: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=55
                Reply from 74.125.53.103: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=55
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                Ping statistics for 74.125.53.103:
                    Packets: Sent = 30, Received = 30, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
                Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
                    Minimum = 20ms, Maximum = 24ms, Average = 21ms



                the long cable has a lower average ping time then the short cable.

                I wonder, if maybe this is perhaps related to the fact that the signals arrive at the speed of light? causing not only imperceptible "delays" based on cable length but entirely unmeasurable ones as well, likely in the area of yocto-seconds, if anything.

                Preemptive:

                "but that's the ping command, I'm talking about games"

                Not much difference there. Ping time in a game is calculated by the delay between when the server sends out a packet to when the client receives it. clearly the actual connection (dial-up, DSL, Broadband) as well as the condition of the networks the packet has to pass through will have more impact then the length of a cord.




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                « Reply #15 on: August 02, 2010, 04:34:30 PM »
                Actually, it's a common misconception that signals in a cable travel at the speed of light.

                The term velocity of propagation measures how fast a signal travels in a cable as compared to the same signal in a vacuum, which would be the speed of light.

                In a cat 5 cable or twisted pair, this can be as low as 40% of the speed of light (which is still pretty fast).  In coaxial cable and fiber the averages are about double that depending on a number of factors.

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                  « Reply #16 on: August 03, 2010, 09:08:38 PM »
                  This is for a game. :S
                  so the only solution would be to buy a wired connection?

                  http://www.speedtest.net/result/902436391.png

                  sigh.

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                  « Reply #17 on: August 03, 2010, 11:02:43 PM »
                  Or move on top of the router

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                  « Reply #18 on: August 03, 2010, 11:13:51 PM »
                  If you don't have any cat 5 or 6 cables laying around to try, check with your friends.  A lot of people have spares that they are not using.

                  Try it and see what happens.

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                  « Reply #19 on: August 11, 2010, 07:19:11 PM »

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                  « Reply #20 on: August 11, 2010, 07:22:15 PM »
                  Part of your problem is your upload speed. Generally you want a somewhat higher number than that. Since that updates you in your gaming enviroment
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                    « Reply #21 on: August 13, 2010, 08:05:40 AM »
                    so what can i do to change my upload speed?

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                    « Reply #22 on: August 13, 2010, 08:19:00 AM »
                    Ask your ISP for a better package.

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                      « Reply #23 on: August 13, 2010, 10:27:41 AM »
                      this is their best package. lolz
                      anyways seems theres no other way than going wired.
                      thanks for all the replies.

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                        « Reply #24 on: August 19, 2010, 02:38:53 AM »
                        I don think ISPs offer better package, exclusively to cater the 'Upload' speeds!

                        Fiber-to-Home is the only answer to maintain a SYNC. b/w upload & download rates. 8)




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                        « Reply #25 on: August 19, 2010, 06:18:39 AM »
                        I don think ISPs offer better package, exclusively to cater the 'Upload' speeds!

                        Fiber-to-Home is the only answer to maintain a SYNC. b/w upload & download rates. 8)


                        No... You could get the upload speed match your download speed, but I dunno in other countries but here you can max get 1mb upload, due to piracy thing.

                        So if you want 2mb download you need a other ISP, right now I have 2 different ISP and I can get 2mb up and 500mb down, and they both go trough my phone line, also note that I live 10 miles from the town.
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                          « Reply #26 on: August 19, 2010, 09:36:58 AM »
                          Hello Frejoh! ;D

                          Are you serious? You live at around 17Km from the Local exchange & you get 500Mbps as a 'Download' rate?

                          Nah...it must be 50Mbps, Copper lines do support above that rate via VDSL.

                          Post the speedtest.net result ASAP, with screenshots.

                          You must be joking! ;D

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                          « Reply #27 on: August 19, 2010, 11:08:44 AM »
                          No, it should bee 500Mb/s down and 1Mb/s  up, but the limit on the upload is only because I don't live in a city, if I was in a city I would get so much the deal with my ISP is.

                          Screen btw, (tho I could not get a reading from speedtest.net, I had to use bredbandskollen.se) The distance is  ~ 100 miles



                          The speed wasn't 500 but I guess it was some load on it... And yea, the phone line was laid 2008, and it's not fiber.

                          Yea, the one on the top is Upload etc.
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                          « Reply #28 on: August 19, 2010, 12:35:09 PM »
                          Where does Sweden rank in fastest broadband speed list? I can't imagine what I would do with that speed. I'm not even getting 1 mbps most days.

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                          « Reply #29 on: August 19, 2010, 09:28:47 PM »
                          Where does Sweden rank in fastest broadband speed list? I can't imagine what I would do with that speed. I'm not even getting 1 mbps most days.

                          A people capable of making something as delicious as swedish berries deserve the fastest speed possible.
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                          « Reply #30 on: August 19, 2010, 10:27:09 PM »
                          I only get 0.33Mb/s upload so I can barley play any online games, on cod I have 200ping, WoW I get 30ms but sometime 1k+ so sometimes I can't do so much... So I would gladly trade my current connection to 10Mb/s down and 10Mb/s up.

                          So whats the point to have a huge Download when you can't upload anything?
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                          « Reply #31 on: August 19, 2010, 11:10:26 PM »
                          0.33 upload causes that much difficulty? Wow.

                          And too think I used to play games using  56kbps download and 36kbps upload without any problems whatsoever.

                          Ping times are mostly relating to your distance from the server, as well as the load on your own LAN and the network of your ISP. It's usually unrelated to download and upload speed.

                          On the other hand, it could just be that games today have very badly thought out protocols.
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                            « Reply #32 on: August 20, 2010, 12:24:47 AM »
                            But, is it fundamentally right? ::)

                            I mean, can Copper lines deliver speed of upto 330Mbps(as showcase in Screenshot)?

                            He must be on a Cable broadband!?

                            Is there any further variant of ADSL after VDSL? ???

                            Nevertheless, I can atleast boast of faster upload rate than Frejoh, mine is 0.43Mbps.

                            Download roughly stands at 1.77Mbps on an average BUT my ISP is always rated B at Pingtest.net owing to greater 'Jitter' rate :-\

                            & practically, I do sometimes observe high latency(slow response time) on clicking a web link.

                             

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                            « Reply #33 on: August 20, 2010, 03:20:38 PM »
                            I've read reports of GB speeds over copper in the labs, but I don't think there are any real world applications of it yet.

                            The phone companies have an incredible amount of money invested in copper wiring world wide and they are trying to get the most out of it.

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                            « Reply #34 on: August 20, 2010, 11:42:04 PM »
                            Well I don't know if they made it extra thick, (or if it even is copper) but they laid it just because they are building a new village with 50+ hoses.
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