How to get started in LINUX

[SilentAssasin64]

I've only used LXDE in Arch, can't speak for the Ubuntu version.  Wasn't aware it is more lightweight than XFCE.

[Cityscape]

I've only used LXDE in Arch, can't speak for the Ubuntu version.  Wasn't aware it is more lightweight than XFCE.

It is in Ubuntu because Xubuntu (Ubuntu + XFCE) does not use all the default XFCE applications. Xubuntu uses lots of heavier applications like OpenOffice, Firefox, GIMP & Thunderbird, this "bloats" Xubuntu to the point that is even not much faster then GNOME. Lubuntu (Ubuntu + LXDE) however uses only the lightest application set making it a lot faster than Xubuntu.

If you had lets say Slackware with both XFCE & LXDE installed I would think that there would not be much of a difference between the two. But Xubuntu changes enough stuff (they even did custom paneling) from a default install XFCE install that it weighs the system down.

[Salmon Trout]

Xubuntu uses lots of heavier applications like OpenOffice, Firefox, GIMP & Thunderbird, this "bloats" Xubuntu to the point that is even not much faster then GNOME. Lubuntu (Ubuntu + LXDE) however uses only the lightest application set making it a lot faster than Xubuntu.

This does not make sense. The amount of installed software does not affect "speed" or responsiveness.

[soybean]

This does not make sense. The amount of installed software does not affect "speed" or responsiveness.

Right, and besides, Ubuntu comes with OpenOffice and Firefox. Merely adding GIMP and Thunderbird is not going to slow down the system.

[BC_Programmer]

Joining in on the nitpick session, When did openoffice become a "heavy" application? When did having heavy applications slow performance? and more to the point, when did the graphical desktop environment have any bearing on speed related to installed applications?

And why are you comparing XUbuntu (A Linux distro) to GNOME (A Linux windowing environment/desktop). You may as well say that OSX is slower then Luna, makes no sense at all.

[Salmon Trout]

And why are you comparing XUbuntu (A Linux distro) to GNOME

Maybe he thinks Gnome is a distro?

[BC_Programmer]

Maybe he thinks Gnome is a distro?

Wouldn't surprise me, seems to be the norm among the typical Ubuntu user, also known as the diapered Linux wannabe. The kind who uses Ubuntu, not because they like it, but so they can smack their keyboards around in the terminal and say 'HAHA I AM NOT USING WINDOZE I'M A HAXOR'. Not that that really describes Cityscape but it seems all to common for a large subset of Ubuntu users. (The younger ones who want to be hip gangster hackers, or something equally (oxy)moronic.)

[Cityscape]

This does not make sense. The amount of installed software does not affect "speed" or responsiveness.

Compare two systems. System #1 has a lot of "heavier" programs installed and background processes running, System #2 has a few light programs and few background processes. Which system will be faster for general use, System #1 would be. If the user on System #1 opened his/her office suite it would be slower to open compared to the user of System #2 who using a lightweight office suite would experience better performance.

Joining in on the nitpick session, When did openoffice become a "heavy" application? When did having heavy applications slow performance? and more to the point, when did the graphical desktop environment have any bearing on speed related to installed applications?

A. OpenOffice has always been considered a heavy office suite (along with Koffice which is even heavier) by Linux users as far as I can tell.
B. Heavy applications don't always necessarily slow performance, but they often do on older hardware (which is what this was all about).
C. I dunno 

And why are you comparing XUbuntu (A Linux distro) to GNOME (A Linux windowing environment/desktop). You may as well say that OSX is slower then Luna, makes no sense at all.

Sorry, my mistake. What I meant to say was "Xubuntu changes enough stuff so that it is heavier than a default install XFCE on Ubuntu

Right, and besides, Ubuntu comes with OpenOffice and Firefox. Merely adding GIMP and Thunderbird is not going to slow down the system.

I was talking about Xubuntu not Ubuntu. Xubuntu does more then just adding XFCE and a few programs like GIMP & Thunderbird to a Ubuntu install. Xubuntu uses a heavier network applet then most other XFCE distros as well. It is well known in the Ubuntu community that Xubuntu is quite heavy, almost as heavy as Ubuntu. And that is why most Ubuntu users will recommend Lubuntu for old hardware.

Maybe he thinks Gnome is a distro?

Uhmm, no. I know what Gnome is. Gnome is a desktop environment. Other desktop environments include KDE (which I hate so much), Xfce, LXDE, CDE, ROX & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ImageFuture.png  Enlightenment ().

[Cityscape]

The kind who uses Ubuntu, not because they like it, but so they can smack their keyboards around in the terminal and say 'HAHA I AM NOT USING WINDOZE I'M A HAXOR'. Not that that really describes Cityscape but it seems all to common for a large subset of Ubuntu users. (The younger ones who want to be hip gangster hackers, or something equally (oxy)moronic.)

LOL!!!   I don't think I've come across any "those" Ubuntu users yet.

[Salmon Trout]

LOL!!!   I don't think I've come across any "those" Ubuntu users yet.

Really?

[Cityscape]

Yes.

[Salmon Trout]

Compare two systems. System #1 has a lot of "heavier" programs installed and background processes running, System #2 has a few light programs and few background processes. Which system will be faster for general use, System #1 would be.

That directly contradicts what you said before. (I know [I presume!] you meant to type either "slower", or "system #2") but I think this has gone far enough, much though I enjoy needling fanbois.) I still don't agree with anything you have written.

BC, doesn't haxxor have 2 'x's?

[BC_Programmer]

BC, doesn't haxxor have 2 'x's?

No idea.

[Cityscape]

That directly contradicts what you said before. (I know [I presume!] you meant to type either "slower", or "system #2") but I think this has gone far enough, much though I enjoy needling fanbois.) I still don't agree with anything you have written.

Typo again!    I meant System #2.

[Salmon Trout]

No idea.

I was teasing you, I hope you realise?