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    Re: another Windows 7/NVidia problem
    « Reply #15 on: October 26, 2010, 05:10:25 PM »
    If you are running a 64 bit operating system then you will need a 64 bit driver.

    The driver ran 64 bit for a year. Can't it run both?

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    Re: another Windows 7/NVidia problem
    « Reply #16 on: October 26, 2010, 05:12:19 PM »
    No.
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      Re: another Windows 7/NVidia problem
      « Reply #17 on: October 26, 2010, 05:17:51 PM »
      The only conclusion I'm left with is that HP installed a 32 bit driver + 32 Vista during the repair.

      So I must run 32 bit Win7, yes?

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      Re: another Windows 7/NVidia problem
      « Reply #18 on: October 26, 2010, 05:23:17 PM »
      Yes, if you want to use a 32 bit driver you will need to have a 32 bit operating system. HP has 64 bit drivers for vista. You can try them with windows 7 64 bit. They might work.
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        Re: another Windows 7/NVidia problem
        « Reply #19 on: October 26, 2010, 07:15:30 PM »
        Yes, if you want to use a 32 bit driver you will need to have a 32 bit operating system. HP has 64 bit drivers for vista. You can try them with windows 7 64 bit. They might work.

        Nvidia claims that the driver I downloaded yesterday (which failed to install) runs both Vista + Win7 in 64 bit.

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        Re: another Windows 7/NVidia problem
        « Reply #20 on: October 26, 2010, 07:26:42 PM »
        Did you try the drivers that I linked you to?
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          Re: another Windows 7/NVidia problem
          « Reply #21 on: October 26, 2010, 10:55:51 PM »
          Did you try the drivers that I linked you to?

          Here's the plan, Expert.

          Download new driver
          uninstall old driver
          install new driver
          cross fingers

          that about right?

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          Re: another Windows 7/NVidia problem
          « Reply #22 on: October 26, 2010, 11:10:24 PM »
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            Re: another Windows 7/NVidia problem
            « Reply #23 on: October 26, 2010, 11:53:24 PM »
            Well, the news is not good.

            The driver from Nvidia would not install. I've installed what HP claims to be the 64 bit driver that should have been there in the first place. But the existing conditions previously described are all still there.

            UGH!

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            Re: another Windows 7/NVidia problem
            « Reply #24 on: October 27, 2010, 02:14:51 AM »
            Do you get an error message when trying to install?
            It's looking like you might have to go back to Vista.
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            Re: another Windows 7/NVidia problem
            « Reply #25 on: October 27, 2010, 02:34:40 AM »
            This is a laptop. The driver from nVidia should not be used- the one from the laptop manufacturer should. (Yes you've tried them, but the Nvidia reference drivers are simply not going to work regardless of wether they are a last resort or not)

            http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareCategory?os=2100&lc=en&cc=ca&dlc=en&sw_lang=&product=3653568#N614

            Note that you would need to select Windows Vista 64-bit if you are using Windows 7 64-bit. While you are there you should also get the chipset drivers; you may need to install the chipset drivers before the graphics driver installer will recognize the hardware.

            Basically, your problem is two-fold: first it seems like you did a clean install (or more precisely, you had to as a result of having Vista 32-bit originally) because of this, none of the old drivers could be used (both because you did a clean install and they were the wrong kind anyway (32-bit)). As a result, all of the devices on your computer are now, at best, using the generic drivers that windows provides. This is why your graphics adapter is not working; while win7 includes a generic NVidia reference driver that version does not usually work on Mobile implementations.

            The 64-bit Vista driver should install and work with 64-bit Windows 7; my Toshiba is using the Vista x64 version of it's graphics driver and it's running win7 x64.

            Do you get error messages when you attempt to install the Vista x64 graphics driver from the HP support site?



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              Re: another Windows 7/NVidia problem
              « Reply #26 on: October 27, 2010, 02:50:26 AM »
              This is a laptop. The driver from nVidia should not be used- the one from the laptop manufacturer should. (Yes you've tried them, but the Nvidia reference drivers are simply not going to work regardless of wether they are a last resort or not)

              http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareCategory?os=2100&lc=en&cc=ca&dlc=en&sw_lang=&product=3653568#N614

              Note that you would need to select Windows Vista 64-bit if you are using Windows 7 64-bit. While you are there you should also get the chipset drivers; you may need to install the chipset drivers before the graphics driver installer will recognize the hardware.

              Basically, your problem is two-fold: first it seems like you did a clean install (or more precisely, you had to as a result of having Vista 32-bit originally) because of this, none of the old drivers could be used (both because you did a clean install and they were the wrong kind anyway (32-bit)). As a result, all of the devices on your computer are now, at best, using the generic drivers that windows provides. This is why your graphics adapter is not working; while win7 includes a generic NVidia reference driver that version does not usually work on Mobile implementations.

              The 64-bit Vista driver should install and work with 64-bit Windows 7; my Toshiba is using the Vista x64 version of it's graphics driver and it's running win7 x64.

              Do you get error messages when you attempt to install the Vista x64 graphics driver from the HP support site?

              I've downloaded the chipset but I want to be clear b4 moving ahead. Must I uninstall the graphics driver from HP first or is it OK to go ahead and install the chipset now?

              BTW - thanks for getting involved

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              Re: another Windows 7/NVidia problem
              « Reply #27 on: October 27, 2010, 03:53:52 AM »
              I thought the HP driver didn't work, and you had the same symptoms, by which I assumed also that one of those symptoms was the graphcis adapter being listed as a "Standard VGA" or something similar; if that's the case, then you technically haven't even installed the driver. (or more precisely, it never installed properly)

              In any case, I'd uninstall it.
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              Re: another Windows 7/NVidia problem
              « Reply #28 on: October 27, 2010, 06:16:47 AM »
              If all your wanting to do is hook up your laptop to your TV then its a lame excuse to downgrade to vista...
              Ive NEVER heard the term of downgrading to vista. It makes me laugh.  :D

              But here is possible information I found. May not Help
              (just to let you know)

              Generally the problem is caused by one of a couple of things - the computer doesn't detect the display due to the TV not being set to the input and being detectable (ie no signal on the HDMI port when that input isn't selected), or the graphics card isn't putting out a signal so your TV doesn't know that the card is there.
              In windows 7 you can sometimes force detection of the display to get it so that the graphics card by right clicking the desktop > screen resolution then select the port from display list and then under the multiple displays list select try to connect anyway. '

               




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                Re: another Windows 7/NVidia problem
                « Reply #29 on: October 27, 2010, 07:34:35 AM »
                I thought the HP driver didn't work, and you had the same symptoms, by which I assumed also that one of those symptoms was the graphcis adapter being listed as a "Standard VGA" or something similar; if that's the case, then you technically haven't even installed the driver. (or more precisely, it never installed properly)

                In any case, I'd uninstall it.

                Uninstall VGA
                Win7 prompts for restart
                upon restart, Win7 auto-installs VGA again

                I've played with this a dozen times. have succeeded in getting the chipset installed, but can't get the HP-Vista 64 driver done