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Firefox 4 beta 12 - how is it?
« on: February 28, 2011, 03:03:23 PM »
How good has firefox 4 become through it's long road of betas? I see firefox 4 beta 12 already out and probably the last beta for FF4.

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Re: Firefox 4 beta 12 - how is it?
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 03:10:12 PM »
Looking at screenshots it looks like now looking like chrome is apparently a good thing.

Guess I may as well toss out all my GUI design books then.
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Re: Firefox 4 beta 12 - how is it?
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 10:14:30 PM »
I've been using FF 4 since beta 5, or 6 on my laptop and I had no problems whatsoever.

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    Re: Firefox 4 beta 12 - how is it?
    « Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 10:25:08 PM »
    its pretty good. i like the new one but the only down side is u can't save your page or u have to turn it on. (i mean like when you close with more the one tab open not book marking)

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    Re: Firefox 4 beta 12 - how is it?
    « Reply #4 on: March 02, 2011, 10:06:00 AM »
    They seem to be taking following in some of Opera's footsteps.  Opera introduced tab stacking in their latest version.  I see Firefox 4 has tab grouping, which is similar to, but somewhat different from, Opera's tab stacking.

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    Re: Firefox 4 beta 12 - how is it?
    « Reply #5 on: March 02, 2011, 03:25:37 PM »
    seems like IE, chrome and firefox and starting to copy each other's looks and leeching features from one another.

    not that it's all bad, but....

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      Re: Firefox 4 beta 12 - how is it?
      « Reply #6 on: March 02, 2011, 06:47:20 PM »
      i thought the same but the lay out is rather nice in my view, i like it better then chrome, it doesn't run as slow for me

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      Re: Firefox 4 beta 12 - how is it?
      « Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 03:49:03 PM »
      i thought the same but the lay out is rather nice in my view, i like it better then chrome, it doesn't run as slow for me

      does the browser engine even matter anymore, except for the odd pages that are blocking Safari/Google's webkit or Opera's Presto engines and the fact that trident is kinda still slow despite ie9's improvement on it?

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      Re: Firefox 4 beta 12 - how is it?
      « Reply #8 on: March 03, 2011, 04:44:32 PM »
      When it comes to browser speed i personally would like to know what everyone is gonna do with all those milliseconds...
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      Re: Firefox 4 beta 12 - how is it?
      « Reply #9 on: March 03, 2011, 04:49:37 PM »
      I've been always wondering very same thing.
      Like I click on a browser icon and it has to open under 3 seconds, or I'll die.

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      Re: Firefox 4 beta 12 - how is it?
      « Reply #10 on: March 03, 2011, 04:49:46 PM »
      When it comes to browser speed i personally would like to know what everyone is gonna do with all those milliseconds...
      +1
      Right up there with how long it takes a computer to boot....

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      Re: Firefox 4 beta 12 - how is it?
      « Reply #11 on: March 03, 2011, 05:29:32 PM »
      I usually power up...walk away and grab coffee...
      I can honestly say i haven't actually watched my machine boot in over 2 years.
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      Re: Firefox 4 beta 12 - how is it?
      « Reply #12 on: March 03, 2011, 05:40:31 PM »
      I have to say that my machine boots very long.....there you have it :)
      I like to have loaded everything, I'm about to use :)

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      Re: Firefox 4 beta 12 - how is it?
      « Reply #13 on: March 03, 2011, 06:02:49 PM »
      One particularly ridiculous "argument" for browser speed is the silly notion that if a browser loads a page a millisecond faster, that through some set of speculations somehow that makes you have a year of free time. That's utter nonsense since We don't actually get that "extra millisecond" every time; Nobody opens a web page and the moment anything is loaded start working or reading it, it takes a second or so to "adjust" to the layout; identify the content, etc.

      If a Program procedure runs a millisecond faster, then that program will have a perceptive gain in "free time" after it's run as opposed to a slower version of the same; but people don't work like that. Time saved in a program loop is time that is then used on the next iteration, and so on. Time saved on a person's actions less then about 5 seconds or so never add up unless done repetively and one after the other. You don't constantly load the same page or different pages over and over; you are trying to get at the content, the content and the reading of said content is your "task" the computers task is to render that content. If the rendering takes a few milliseconds more or less, that doesn't translate into saved time on the part of the user.

      I think I repeated myself twice there. That of course extends to other things. After all, with the boot time, if it takes three minutes, it's only three minutes "wasted" if you let it be; after all, you can do any number of other things while it boots in that three minutes. What is so bloody important that you have to sit there and wait for it to boot, and why was it not important enough for you to have prepared and had the machine ready "in time"?
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        Re: Firefox 4 beta 12 - how is it?
        « Reply #14 on: March 03, 2011, 10:28:26 PM »
        so-so,doesn't worthy having a try.