Web Browsers which is best?

[JoetheHawkinsman]

I was wondering which web-browser would you recommend, which is safest, fastest, and so forth.

[Daisymae70]

I am sure you will get a variety of answers here.  Internet Explorer most likely at the bottom.  I started with IE because I thought I had to use it. Then  downloaded Firefox some years ago until it lost its usefulness for me and now my default browser  is Google Chrome which I like the best.  FireFox is a backup browser and IE only if I am absolutely desperate.  And there really isn't a limit that I know of on how many browser's you can have so experiment.

[JoetheHawkinsman]

Thank you very much I think I'll try out Firefox.

[Raptor]

Firefox with Noscript plug-in is the most secure browser you'll find.

[Veltas]

And apparently Chrome is the fastest... although I'm not so sure about which one allows the rest of your work to be the least interrupted as all of them seem to slow the rest of my PC down... probably a flash issue though.  I've used Firefox ever since I heard Netscape had been brought back to life and can't say I'm a fan of Chrome as if there's one browser that stops everything else running smoothly it's Chrome.

[BC_Programmer]

it doesn't make a damned bit of difference which browser you use. People who get their panties in a twist about which browser is best are lifeless losers with nothing better to do but make exorbinant and factless claims that "Browser X is more secure" or "Browser X is faster". Just use a damned browser and stop with the senseless zealotry.

[Rob Pomeroy]

it doesn't make a damned bit of difference which browser you use. People who get their panties in a twist about which browser is best are lifeless losers with nothing better to do but make exorbinant and factless claims that "Browser X is more secure" or "Browser X is faster". Just use a damned browser and stop with the senseless zealotry.

Somebody's not had his Prozac this morning!

[BC_Programmer]

Somebody's not had his Prozac this morning!

If what I said is wrong, please articulate how it is. Or you could continue to make quips that imply I use or need drugs, which has no basis in fact and are wholly irrelevant, if that makes you feel important.

[Rob Pomeroy]

If what I said is wrong, please articulate how it is. Or you could continue to make quips that imply I use or need drugs, which has no basis in fact and are wholly irrelevant, if that makes you feel important.

*sigh*

[BC_Programmer]

*sigh*

Neither was not an option!

[Allan]

Let's keep it off the board please.

[Veltas]

it doesn't make a damned bit of difference which browser you use. People who get their panties in a twist about which browser is best are lifeless losers with nothing better to do but make exorbinant and factless claims that "Browser X is more secure" or "Browser X is faster". Just use a damned browser and stop with the senseless zealotry.

I didn't really get upset about it, more like just wanted to warn people that Chrome can make the rest of the applications run worse.  It's got nothing to do with loyalty, if it was I'd use IE, after all I like MS.

[Raptor]

I didn't really get upset about it, more like just wanted to warn people that Chrome can make the rest of the applications run worse.  It's got nothing to do with loyalty, if it was I'd use IE, after all I like MS.

Chrome can make applications run worse? How?

[patio]

This should be good...

[Daisymae70]

Internet Explorer is still crap. 

[Popeye67]

General consensus amongst most computer enthusiasts over past few years has been anything but Internet Explorer, that said IE is getting better, im on IE 10 at moment and it was almost 24 hours before i downloaded oprera, normally its less than twenty minutes after i install the OS.

[Veltas]

Chrome can make applications run worse? How?

No idea, just makes 'em more choppy, it's an issue I've discovered on multiple machines and is enough to stop me recommending it.  As for speed there's basically no difference between each browser, so go ahead and choose whatever.  I've gotten used to browsing recklessly under NoScript so I'm stuck with Firefox for now.

[kpac]

Well, I think that issue you're having with Chrome is exactly that - your issue. Chrome doesn't affect any other applications on any of the 4 PCs at home.

As already said, the best browser is simply a matter of opinion.

[patio]

Toldya it was gonna be good.....

[Veltas]

Toldya it was gonna be good.....

I'm glad good came out of this!

[Raptor]

As already said, the best browser is simply a matter of opinion.

Yah. Until you take into account the plug-ins for Firefox after which it becomes a matter of.. Firefox! That's right.

[Veltas]

Yah. Until you take into account the plug-ins for Firefox after which it becomes a matter of.. Firefox! That's right.

I'm sorry, Raptor, but Firefox is not the best browser... as it isn't actually a browser...

After all, a browser is designed to display web pages...

And web pages are designed to display in Firefox.

[Raptor]

I'm sorry, Raptor, but Firefox is not the best browser... as it isn't actually a browser...

After all, a browser is designed to display web pages...

And web pages are designed to display in Firefox.

You don't get out of your basement much, do you?

[Veltas]

You don't get out of your basement much, do you?

Err it was a joke.... and I'll have you know I get out of my basement at least twice a week for food...

[Raptor]

So you're admitting that Firefox is the best webbrowser?

[kpac]

Yah. Until you take into account the plug-ins for Firefox after which it becomes a matter of.. Firefox! That's right.

Yes, I do agree that Firefox is the best browser for me. But that's because I design websites, and Firefox is the easiest to work with. Stupid IE6.

[Veltas]

Stupid IE6.

Good times... (sarcasm)

So you're admitting that Firefox is the best webbrowser?

I prefer it to any other, and I would recommend it to others too.  But the best?  It depends.  Also, I was joking about earlier.

[Raptor]

Excellent! Nothing like fellow like-minded Firefox users to make me believe in humanity.

[evilfantasy]

At this point in time I do believe IE is more secure than FF with Chrome leading the pack. Chrome Is Most Secure of the Top Three Browsers, Study Finds

Although I'm not giving up FF yet, Chrome is making some major progress with it's speed and security not to mention a growing number of useful add-ons.

Google Chrome Blog - Speed and Security January 5, 2012

[Popeye67]

Still prefer opera but IE 10 seems a lot quicker. rest of windows8 isnt to my liking but it seems like they are getting their act together as dar as IE is concerned

[Veltas]

At this point in time I do believe IE is more secure than FF with Chrome leading the pack. Chrome Is Most Secure of the Top Three Browsers, Study Finds

Although I'm not giving up FF yet, Chrome is making some major progress with it's speed and security not to mention a growing number of useful add-ons.

Google Chrome Blog - Speed and Security January 5, 2012

So NoScript counts for nothing?  Because for anyone who understands to use it, NoScript makes Firefox without a doubt the most secure browser.

[evilfantasy]

So NoScript counts for nothing?

I never said that.

The user behind the mouse and keyboard make a browser secure. An add-on is just one layer of security and no one layer alone will ever be enough unless you simply never connect to the Internet.

Also, NoScript is not without it's faults:
Attention all NoScript users
Adblock Plus and (a little) more
ALERT: Firefox with NoScript does NOT ALWAYS protect from SWF clipboard hijacks

In short. NoScript only blocks what does not make the developer money (check your NoScript whitelist). Including other security related add-ons which are not always easy to determine. And it does have vulnerabilities.

Because for anyone who understands to use it, NoScript makes Firefox without a doubt the most secure browser.

Understanding it is the reason I don't use it. For example this very forum. With NoScript set to it's defaults you can not see all of the posting options. There are no Smileys or BBCode formatting options.

With NoScript


Without NoScript


For the record I never was a fan of NoScript. For me it's a PITA and in all my years of visiting shady websites I have not gotten infected unless I was trying to. It's not just blocking scripts, it's blocking content.

I prefer AdBlockPlus and Ghostery. But just like NoScript they have their faults and I have had to whitelist several things in Ghostery in order to see web pages as they should be seen. And by default AdBlockPlus is set to "Allowing acceptable ads in Adblock Plus". I find myself using the Open With add-on quite a bit due to knowing that there is content on a web page that I am not seeing.

[Raptor]

Judging from what I'm reading, Noscript was too difficult to operate for you. That's not really Noscript's fault.

In short. NoScript only blocks what does not make the developer money (check your NoScript whitelist). Including other security related add-ons which are not always easy to determine

Yeah, I'm betting Noscript makes tons by whitelisting about:config. Why didn't I think of that?

But just like NoScript they have their faults and I have had to whitelist several things in Ghostery in order to see web pages as they should be seen.

So you block Javascript and then complain about Javascript not working?

Riiiight.

[evilfantasy]

I didn't put words in Veltas' mouth. Please don't put them in mine. 

But just like NoScript they have their faults

Did I not admit that they all have their faults?

For the record I never was a fan of NoScript. For me it's a PITA

That does personalize my reply. I didn't say for everyone. I just believe that NoScript is overkill. Simple as that.

[Veltas]

Yeah, I'm betting Noscript makes tons by whitelisting about:config. Why didn't I think of that?

Take a look at the default whitelist, it does contain some odd ones...

[Raptor]

Take a look at the default whitelist, it does contain some odd ones...

I must have thrown those out a long time ago. I know there are some entries which are greyed out but you can remove those through about:config from what I recall.

[Veltas]

I must have thrown those out a long time ago. I know there are some entries which are greyed out but you can remove those through about:config from what I recall.

I didn't see anything strange greyed-out though, so it is trivial to remove the entries you don't want.

[Raptor]

What were they?

[Veltas]

Dunno, I removed them!   

[JJ 3000]

You're all wrong!

Lynx is the best web browser. Behold it's majestic beauty:

[BC_Programmer]

It's nice that we can have these totally unrepetitive topics.

[Veltas]

It's nice that we can have these totally unrepetitive topics.

I'm sorry did you guys already have a discussion about what's allowed by default in No-Script?  Let's move this to that thread then... if I could have the link?

[Veltas]

Although if it's about the thread in general... then I can see where you're coming from.  This is about as good an idea as making an account on a religion forum and asking "Which god is the best?".

[Raptor]

Although if it's about the thread in general... then I can see where you're coming from.  This is about as good an idea as making an account on a religion forum and asking "Which god is the best?".

North-Korea is best korea!

[Veltas]

North-Korea is best korea!