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Data dangers dog hard drive sales
« on: September 12, 2005, 08:40:01 AM »
Many people are taking risks with data on hard drives and memory cards which they are selling via eBay, say experts.

Letters, resumes, spreadsheets, phone numbers and e-mail addresses were all found on storage hardware bought and analysed by forensics firm Disklabs.

Also recoverable were temporary files from net browsers which contained login details and passwords for websites and even online bank accounts.

The problems arose because sellers were only taking basic steps to delete data.

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In its test of how good users were at destroying data, Disklabs bought 100 hard drives and 50 memory cards - which included SD cards, flash drives, sim cards and memory sticks - from the auction site.

Users are taking risks with data they leave on hard drives being sold on eBay
With not a massive amount of work we could go in there and help ourselves to whatever we want
Simon Steggles, Disklabs
Simon Steggles, director of Disklabs, said the drives and memory cards were probably being sold by people upgrading home PCs or changing their mobile phone.

"Most people made only cursory attempts to erase the data," said Mr Steggles, "and some had not done even that."

During its investigation, Disklabs found large amounts of personal and confidential business data on storage hardware.

Most worryingly, said Mr Steggles, it was possible to extract the temporary files that Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser uses to keep track of what people do when they are using the web.

With a little work, it was possible to reconstruct almost everything that some users did online, and to grab cookies and login details for sites they visited.

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"With not a massive amount of work we could go in there and help ourselves to whatever we want," he told the BBC website. - Simon Steggles, Disklabs


In many cases, only the delete key was used to remove data. However, in PCs and many other digital devices all this does is apply a label that says these sections of storage can be over-written.

On large disk drives this can mean the supposedly deleted data remains intact for a long time.

In such cases, said Mr Steggles, recovering data is very straight-forward for forensic firms and, perhaps, technically-aware thieves.

What users needed to realise, he said, was how hard it was to destroy data. Even formatting hard drives and other memory cards would not irrevocably remove information stored on them.

If users were worried about potentially sensitive data, said Mr Steggles, they should use a professional forensics firm to erase it

"Alternatively," he said "they could smash it to bits."

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Re:  Data dangers dog hard drive sales
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2005, 11:17:08 AM »
*censored*, So whats the solution?

I dont want some con-man/woman geting into my bank account! ???

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Re:  Data dangers dog hard drive sales
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2005, 11:32:08 AM »
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*censored*, So whats the solution?

I dont want some con-man/woman geting into my bank account! ???

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Write zeroes to the Hard Disk Drive or memory stick before you sell/discard it.

Or destroy it completely.

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Re:  Data dangers dog hard drive sales
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2005, 12:07:29 PM »
Whats that a program like CC cleaner?

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Re:  Data dangers dog hard drive sales
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2005, 01:56:34 PM »
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Whats that a program like CC cleaner?

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Check HDD manufacturer website.

Ross, you should really pay more attention. We handled this subject not too long ago.  :P

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Re:  Data dangers dog hard drive sales
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2005, 02:44:31 PM »
Did we? ::)

Well if i sell my pc or get a new HDD i'll microwave the BEAST!


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    Re:  Data dangers dog hard drive sales
    « Reply #6 on: September 15, 2005, 03:58:50 PM »
    I use a program called System Mechanic Pro .......... it has a secure drive scrubber as well as a incineration feature to securely delete files and folders ...........


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      « Reply #7 on: September 15, 2005, 04:02:47 PM »
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      Whats that a program like CC cleaner?


      All this program really does is remove junk from your system ........and in addition empties temp internet files , history and recently opened file logs . There is also a registry cleaner as well.

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        Re:  Data dangers dog hard drive sales
        « Reply #8 on: September 15, 2005, 06:51:26 PM »
        Does the amount of money you'll get from selling an old hard drive really warrant the risk and the hassle ?

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        "Alternatively," he said "they could smash it to bits."  


        That would be my choice.
        There’s no limit to what you can achieve if you don’t mind who gets the credit.

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          « Reply #9 on: September 15, 2005, 07:22:34 PM »
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          Does the amount of money you'll get from selling an old hard drive really warrant the risk and the hassle ?


          ...........WELL SAID ...........  I once bought a hard drive off Ebay ...that had simply been removed , with no attempt to wipe it .....

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            Re:  Data dangers dog hard drive sales
            « Reply #10 on: September 15, 2005, 11:22:34 PM »
            Spybot has a secure shredder tool but I'm not sure how it would go wiping the whole HD.
            We need a victim to try it.  :)

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              Re:  Data dangers dog hard drive sales
              « Reply #11 on: September 16, 2005, 05:22:46 AM »
              Even with a secure shredder, you would have to make multiple passes the eliminate data to a non recoverable state. Don't be fooled by the progams hype. Just because you can't recover the data, it doesn't mean the forensics guy can't.
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              Re:  Data dangers dog hard drive sales
              « Reply #12 on: September 17, 2005, 06:58:48 AM »
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              it doesn't mean the forensics guy can't.


              Big CSI fan, eh.  ;D

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              Re:  Data dangers dog hard drive sales
              « Reply #13 on: September 17, 2005, 07:36:13 AM »
              That's a good idea for a con.

              Buy old HDD on ebay then rob peoples bank accounts.

              Very Sneaky :)

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                « Reply #14 on: September 17, 2005, 10:11:07 AM »
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                Big CSI fan, eh.

                Not really. I was referring to computer fornsics.

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                Buy old HDD on ebay then rob peoples bank accounts.

                It does happen. Its an easy way to fall prey to identity theft.
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