Welcome guest. Before posting on our computer help forum, you must register. Click here it's easy and free.

Author Topic: Can I "trade in" my WIN & for a WIN XP somewhere?  (Read 3768 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

lfshadow

    Topic Starter


    Greenhorn

    Can I "trade in" my WIN & for a WIN XP somewhere?
    « on: February 26, 2012, 09:16:38 PM »
    I got a new computer (HP Pavillion Slimline s5000 series) and it has Windows 7 on it.
    I HATE Windows 7!!!    :||x    It isn't compatible with miost of the hardware I have, including
    my printer.  I'm sick of trying to work around all of these problems.  Is there some way
    I can "trade" my WIN 7 is for Win XP somewhere?  FREE!  Is there a way to get WIN XP
    off of my old computer and put it on my new one (and delete all of WIN 7)?
    Thanks

    Geek-9pm


      Mastermind
    • Geek After Dark
    • Thanked: 1026
      • Gekk9pm bnlog
    • Certifications: List
    • Computer: Specs
    • Experience: Expert
    • OS: Windows 10
    Re: Can I "trade in" my WIN & for a WIN XP somewhere?
    « Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 09:56:34 PM »
    NO! >:(
    But you might talk to HP and ask them if there is a solution for you. In general, if you get a Windows n7 PC there is not any kind of 'downgrade' option.

    Also, before you even try to put Windows XP on that machine, you need to find out if there are drivers for it. Specifically, the hard drive and graphics may not have suitable XP drivers.

    Go to the HP site, enter your model number and see if there are drivers for the machine for XP. The Windows 7 drives do not work for XP.

    Tip: If you decide to install XP, do tins: Using Windows 7, shrunk the partition so that you can make a large partition for XP. That way you still have the Windows 7 available if you ever want it.

    Trust me! Do NOT erase your Windows 7 OS. You will need it in the future. Really! No joke!

    BC_Programmer


      Mastermind
    • Typing is no substitute for thinking.
    • Thanked: 1140
      • Yes
      • Yes
      • BC-Programming.com
    • Certifications: List
    • Computer: Specs
    • Experience: Beginner
    • OS: Windows 11
    Re: Can I "trade in" my WIN & for a WIN XP somewhere?
    « Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 10:25:39 PM »
    I've never understood why people who want to use a decade plus old Operating System buy new computers.
    I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

    Rob Pomeroy



      Prodigy

    • Systems Architect
    • Thanked: 124
      • Me
    • Experience: Expert
    • OS: Other
    Re: Can I "trade in" my WIN & for a WIN XP somewhere?
    « Reply #3 on: February 27, 2012, 05:54:25 AM »
    To clarify the above points:

    A lot of Microsoft's software includes downgrade rights - meaning that (provided the licence specifies,) if you have purchased Windows 7, you are permitted to install XP instead[1].  You may need to phone Microsoft to obtain a valid licence key[2].

    Despite my colleague BC's reservations, there are several legitimate  reasons for downgrading to XP.  Of these, the biggest is operating-system lock-in on proprietary or bespoke software.  For example in my company, we use a lot of bespoke software that was developed on and for legacy operating systems.  Upgrading this software is not simple, quick or cheap.  While the process of developing new software was underway it was necessary for us to downgrade a lot of the hardware we bought between (say) 2007 and 2011.

    Initially the support burden of Windows 7 was greater than Windows XP, while companies got up to speed on the new O/S.  For smaller companies with limited I.T. budgets, often the pragmatic decision will be to skip one or more versions of Windows and thus avoid some of the obvious and hidden migration costs.

    XP is going out of support in 2014, so the pressure is on to move all vulnerable systems away from XP.  Once security updates are no longer available, any network-connected XP machine is essentially a sitting duck.  That said, even this risk may be mitigated by the use of security/endpoint products that keep systems locked down, that still support XP.

    References:

    1. Understanding Downgrade Rights
    2. Downgrade Rights FAQ
    Only able to visit the forums sporadically, sorry.

    Geek & Dummy - honest news, reviews and howtos

    Geek-9pm


      Mastermind
    • Geek After Dark
    • Thanked: 1026
      • Gekk9pm bnlog
    • Certifications: List
    • Computer: Specs
    • Experience: Expert
    • OS: Windows 10
    Re: Can I "trade in" my WIN & for a WIN XP somewhere?
    « Reply #4 on: February 27, 2012, 01:15:04 PM »
    Rob Pomeroy,
    Good post. He can order an OEM XP CD specific to his computer from either HP or a on-line site that has the legal rights to resell the HP CD.
    As an alternative, he can buy a used OEM CD from an individual that no longer wants it.

    OEM in this context means specific to a manufacturer. Neely, HP. Trying to use a HP OEM CD on a PC that does not the COA from Microsoft is a violation of the license. Unless the user wants to shell out the full price for a new license key. In which case he might as well just buy the full retail package.

    The OP has already made it clear that he has a HP with Windows 7. As Pomeroy said, he would have the right to 'downgrade' to Windows XP buy getting the right restore CD from HP. Or a legal source for HP OEM CDs.

    The CD is about $25 plus shipping. You can Google it.

    Salmon Trout

    • Guest
    Re: Can I "trade in" my WIN & for a WIN XP somewhere?
    « Reply #5 on: February 27, 2012, 01:32:07 PM »
    The OP has already made it clear that he has a HP with Windows 7. As Pomeroy said, he would have the right to 'downgrade' to Windows XP

    Only certain OEM versions of Windows 7 include downgrade rights - Windows 7 Professional and Windows 7 Ultimate include downgrade rights to Windows Vista Business and Windows Vista Ultimate. Windows 7 Professional and Windows 7 Ultimate include downgrade rights to Windows XP Professional, Windows XP Tablet PC Edition, or Windows XP x64 Edition. Other OEM Windows 7 versions (for instance, Windows 7 Home Basic and Windows 7 Home Premium) do not include downgrade rights.

    I have to say, I used Windows XP in different PCs from 2001 to early 2010, and then I ordered a system with Windows 7 Professional. It is just coming up to 2 years since I started using it, and I would never switch back. When I hear people say how much they hate Windows 7 it reminds me of late 2001 when people were saying how much they hated XP and how Windows 98 was so much better. When I use Xp nowadays, it really feels clunky and late-twentieth-century, and one way I can describe the feeling is that it's like Windows 2000 with a skin.



    Squashman



      Specialist
    • Thanked: 134
    • Experience: Experienced
    • OS: Other
    Re: Can I "trade in" my WIN & for a WIN XP somewhere?
    « Reply #6 on: February 27, 2012, 03:48:29 PM »
    I would like to know the make and model of the printer that is not working.

    patio

    • Moderator


    • Genius
    • Maud' Dib
    • Thanked: 1769
      • Yes
    • Experience: Beginner
    • OS: Windows 7
    Re: Can I "trade in" my WIN & for a WIN XP somewhere?
    « Reply #7 on: February 27, 2012, 04:12:20 PM »
    Personally i'd keep Win7 and dump the printer...
    " Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

    reddevilggg



      Expert

      Thanked: 69
    • Experience: Beginner
    • OS: Windows 7
    Re: Can I "trade in" my WIN & for a WIN XP somewhere?
    « Reply #8 on: February 28, 2012, 08:21:27 AM »

    Personally i'd keep Win7 and dump the printer...

    It would probably be easier as printers are quite cheap. Just get another printer and welcome Windows 7.
    11 cheers for binary !

    soybean



      Genius
    • The first soybean ever to learn the computer.
    • Thanked: 469
    • Computer: Specs
    • Experience: Experienced
    • OS: Windows 10
    Re: Can I "trade in" my WIN & for a WIN XP somewhere?
    « Reply #9 on: February 28, 2012, 08:49:58 AM »
    I would like to know the make and model of the printer that is not working.
    Yes, perhaps we can help verify whether a driver is available for Win 7.  If none is available, I'd do as patio said; I'd replace the printer.  If no driver for Win 7 is available for your printer, it must be getting some age on it.