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Re: Win 7 vs Win 7 with SP1
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2014, 11:46:10 AM »
Just DLoad a fresh copy...however i suspect the ISO is there somewhere...probably in your DLoad folder...
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    Re: Win 7 vs Win 7 with SP1
    « Reply #31 on: August 11, 2014, 12:02:55 PM »
    It came installed on the machine which she purchased new from a reputable company so I assume all is legit. She does not care too much about the money angle, she primarily wants to keep everything the same as long as she can. If $60 buys her one more year, she will be happy. Where could she get a much better machine for $60 or less?

    Time to abort? I just realized this rig was purchased years before Win7 was launched so it must have come with XP. My S-I-L's ex son-in-law (too many in-laws!) took care of the PC as my S-I-L and her hubby do not know or care anything about PC's. I assume the ex son-in-law installed Win7 at some point and I have no idea if it is legit or not.

    Also, just saw a great 2 part Youtube video of a guy who inherited a HP 753n from his grandfather's estate. He seemed to know a lot about computers. He said in the early 2000's it was unusual for PC's to have recovery partitions and HP came out with them sooner than most. Also, some came with hidden recovery partitions. If this rig has a recovery partition it much be hidden. Makes sense because available space on C and D is only 70GB on an 80GB HD. Of course, restoring to XP as it was in 2004 would not be much help. He also commented that if the power supply went out he would have to get a new case.

    Finally, I just read a MS article which said a downloaded ISO image could only be used to install on the same PC. This article was talking about ISO images purchased from the MS store. Maybe ISO images downloaded from Digital River are differential. I think her machine can play but not burn DVD's.

    I am beginning to think the view is not worth the climb on this one, especially as Cameronguy already pointed out, if she has to buy a new OS.

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    Re: Win 7 vs Win 7 with SP1
    « Reply #32 on: August 11, 2014, 12:07:12 PM »
    Look up the procedure for accessing the hidden Recovery Partition...
    Then we'll go from there...
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      Re: Win 7 vs Win 7 with SP1
      « Reply #33 on: August 11, 2014, 12:16:02 PM »
      Look up the procedure for accessing the hidden Recovery Partition...
      Then we'll go from there...

      Yes, I know how to do this based on the YouTube video (he did a destructive recovery) plus I read a HP article. With the damaged hard drive who knows what will happen plus days of post recovery updates.

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      Re: Win 7 vs Win 7 with SP1
      « Reply #34 on: August 11, 2014, 12:49:15 PM »
      Your choice...keep us posted.
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        Re: Win 7 vs Win 7 with SP1
        « Reply #35 on: August 11, 2014, 01:34:29 PM »
        Your choice...keep us posted.

        I'm back...had to leave in a hurry. I need to ascertain if the currently installed Win7 is legit and has a COA Prod Key that can be used for a clean re-install. If not, I hope I can convince SIL to go another direction. Depending on what SIL's ex son-in-law did, I wonder if the original XP COA Prod Key could still be valid and used to legitimately upgrade to Win7?

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        Re: Win 7 vs Win 7 with SP1
        « Reply #36 on: August 11, 2014, 03:48:10 PM »
        You can use this program to recover the key.
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        Re: Win 7 vs Win 7 with SP1
        « Reply #37 on: August 11, 2014, 03:56:21 PM »
        The best trick I know to see if a copy of Windows is genuine if there is no COA is to recovery the key using the tool that SuperDave mentioned above then type the key into Google.  If the key is genuine then you shouldn't get any real results, however if it is a pirated key you will get loads of links to dodgy pirate websites that mention the key that is in use.

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          Re: Win 7 vs Win 7 with SP1
          « Reply #38 on: August 12, 2014, 02:01:50 AM »
          The best trick I know to see if a copy of Windows is genuine if there is no COA is to recovery the key using the tool that SuperDave mentioned above then type the key into Google.  If the key is genuine then you shouldn't get any real results, however if it is a pirated key you will get loads of links to dodgy pirate websites that mention the key that is in use.

          Thanks. I will do that. I also sent an email asking how he installed 7 and if the disk was new or used and, if used, did the previous owner deactivate so it could legally be used to activate on another PC. Considering the nature of the questions and the amount of time he has been out of the picture, I do not expect an answer. I assume the disk is not OEM because it is not labelled as such. Why can't I just go into System Properties and see the key? I hope to get to the PC today or tomorrow and will let you know what I find out.

          PS. If the Prod Key is legit, do I have to deactivate it on the old hard drive before using it for a clean install on the new hard drive? Since the clean install will be on the same PC, I am thinking it does not have to be deactivated?
          « Last Edit: August 12, 2014, 02:15:52 AM by artbuc »

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          Re: Win 7 vs Win 7 with SP1
          « Reply #39 on: August 12, 2014, 05:09:40 AM »
          What exactly does it say on the CD ? ?
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            Re: Win 7 vs Win 7 with SP1
            « Reply #40 on: August 12, 2014, 05:39:39 AM »
            What exactly does it say on the CD ? ?

            I don't remember as I just glanced at it. At that time I did not realize the significance. I know it said Win 7 Home Premium. It was a color (yellow?) whereas my OEM is silver. Of course my disk is much newer with SP1 and Win Anytime Upgrade. Mine also says "Intended for distribution with a new PC."

            On my PC, at the bottom of System Properties is info re System Activation. It gives links to a lot of good info about how to determine if your OS is legit. One thing I learned is that MS checks your OS when you get updates. Don't have genuine OS, don't get updates. So another thing I will check is the status of updates.

            I tried Cameronguy's suggestion with my Prod Key and got no hits. Did not expect any as I personally bought my disk from a reputable supplier plus MS validated my key when I did the upgrade.

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            Re: Win 7 vs Win 7 with SP1
            « Reply #41 on: August 12, 2014, 06:29:07 AM »
            Find the CD and tell us what it says on it...
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              Re: Win 7 vs Win 7 with SP1
              « Reply #42 on: August 12, 2014, 07:08:03 AM »
              Find the CD and tell us what it says on it...

              Will do plus will post a picture if I can figure out how.

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                Re: Win 7 vs Win 7 with SP1
                « Reply #43 on: August 12, 2014, 12:58:37 PM »
                Find the CD and tell us what it says on it...

                Good news! Just got off the phone with ex son-in-law. He purchased the Win 7 Home Edition himself from BestBuy. He said at the time MS allowed it to be used on multiple PC's (he could not remember for sure but thinks it is 3 or 5). He has it installed only on his PC and my SIL's PC. Must have been the now defunct Family Pack. He also told me he had to upgrade RAM to 1 GB. That rings true because I believe that PC did come with just 1 512 stick and only has 2 slots. Both Crucial and HP say this rig can only take 1 GB of RAM. He attempted to recover to the as purchased state but could not do it because of the failing hard drive. When I get my hands on the PC I will describe the Win7 disk and see if the Prod Key has been activated and validated. UPS just delivered the WD HD so we are getting close to show time. 
                « Last Edit: August 12, 2014, 01:13:47 PM by artbuc »

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                Re: Win 7 vs Win 7 with SP1
                « Reply #44 on: August 12, 2014, 04:59:11 PM »
                Family Pack allowed 5 personal installs...so yer good to go...
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