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    Harddrive Recover Files
    « on: July 01, 2016, 04:15:32 AM »
    I was attaching a drive, with all my movies, shows and game + add on's to a new unit that I was making for multimedia when I broke off the part that secures the power sata to the board.  I bought a replacement drive and switched the boards only it's showing a small portion of the drive and clicks slightly as well. 

    Seagate Barracuda 7200 1.5 TB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s 32MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Hard Drive ST31500341AS-Bare Drive

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    Re: Harddrive Recover Files
    « Reply #1 on: July 01, 2016, 05:45:01 AM »
    Swapping the boards is only part of the process. You need to make sure the rev of the board and firmware is exact for both drives controller boards ... Do they match?

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      Re: Harddrive Recover Files
      « Reply #2 on: July 01, 2016, 06:31:00 AM »
      shouldn't they  :-\, how do I tell that. 

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      Re: Harddrive Recover Files
      « Reply #3 on: July 01, 2016, 09:54:17 AM »
      You will need to look at the silk screen on the PCB or for a sticker affixed to it that says Revision information. The Firmware version is sometimes easy to identify with a label on the top of the ROM chip, other times you need to use a tool to call the S.M.A.R.T data to see this info polled from the ROM chip.

      If your running Windows 8 or newer you can use this: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/WindowsServer2012/AdminTips/Admin/find-disk-firmware-versions-using-powershell.html

      BUT you would need to have the system running off of a healthy drive to run this and then connect to the troubled drive as a slave. Also not sure if a drive with clunk of death will work for this or not since it wont be mounted by the OS.

      From the link above:
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      Question: You need to check firmware versions on the disks of your Windows Server 2012 and Windows 8 computers (and above). How can you do this?

      Answer: Use the Get-Disk function that is available beginning with Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012. Select the friendly name and the firmware version. This command appears here:

      get-disk | select friendlyname, firmwareversion

      By the way trying to find an exact firmware version if even the same rev PCB, you might be looking for a needle in  hay stack as for the drive manufacturers have been known to change the firmware on the fly with production so one model of hard drive might have quite a number of different firmware versions. If your lucky you find 2 drives that were manufactured about the same time and hopefully they are from the same firmware release.

      I have heard about people doing this with mixed results of failure and success. The data recovery centers sometimes do this by locating a matching PCB for the drive and pairing the troubled drive with a new drive controller PCB to get the data recovered.

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      Re: Harddrive Recover Files
      « Reply #4 on: July 01, 2016, 10:05:52 AM »
      The odds on finding a PCB board that'll work are about 1 in 250...
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        Re: Harddrive Recover Files
        « Reply #5 on: July 01, 2016, 01:42:13 PM »
        I was thinking of reattching the board and seeing if my esata dock would work on it but, kind of doubt that it would

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        Re: Harddrive Recover Files
        « Reply #6 on: July 01, 2016, 05:43:21 PM »
        An idea. In thinking about this it would have been better to try to repair the old boards before buying a new one. Because the same. Replacing the power or data connector on a Jetta connection is not as hard as one might think. For what it's worth here is a video about how to replace a broken SATA connector
        How to repair a broken SATA connector YouTube

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        Re: Harddrive Recover Files
        « Reply #7 on: July 01, 2016, 08:45:14 PM »
        It ain't the SATA connector Geek...it's the HDD controller card...
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          Re: Harddrive Recover Files
          « Reply #8 on: July 04, 2016, 05:02:48 AM »
          An idea. In thinking about this it would have been better to try to repair the old boards before buying a new one. Because the same. Replacing the power or data connector on a Jetta connection is not as hard as one might think. For what it's worth here is a video about how to replace a broken SATA connector
          How to repair a broken SATA connector YouTube

          Not sure what you mean but, you sent the keywords and not the video link

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          Re: Harddrive Recover Files
          « Reply #9 on: July 04, 2016, 05:36:41 AM »
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          An idea. In thinking about this it would have been better to try to repair the old boards before buying a new one.

          He was referring to if possible to repair the connector that was damaged so that the original PCB is paired with the original platters/drive, however it all depends on just how bad the damage is. If the PCB is broken ( cracked or part of it snapped off or bent ) vs just the connector itself broken off then its not likely repairable for the PCB, however if the connector is the only part that was damaged and your a skilled precision solderer, you could replace the SATA connector that was damaged by removing the broken jack and soldering in a new jack it its place with proper pin 1 orientation to avoid connecting the drive backwards.. or buy the entire SATA row that a drive would have such as this one linked here which is just about impossible to install backwards unless intentional. http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/87703-0001/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMvd2mIcYG7oaLEtuyEysDBzYW%2fYBmSRpxc%3d

          How did this drive get damaged in this manner btw? Did you drop the drive and it landed on this SATA jack or yank the SATA cables hard to the side?

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            Re: Harddrive Recover Files
            « Reply #10 on: July 07, 2016, 03:03:39 AM »
            I was moving it

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            Re: Harddrive Recover Files
            « Reply #11 on: July 07, 2016, 08:11:04 AM »
            One last note. The new eSATA design may help reduce such accidents.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESATAp
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            In computing, eSATAp (also known as Power over eSATA, Power eSATA, eSATA/USB Combo, eSATA USB Hybrid Port/EUHP) is a combination connection for external storage devices. An eSATA or USB device can be plugged into an eSATAp port. The socket has keyed cutouts for both types of device to ensure that a connector can only be plugged in the right way.

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