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Promitheius

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    New PC
    « on: August 10, 2018, 08:04:29 AM »
    Hi all!

    I’m currently in the process of buying a new PC, and the company that I’m using builds the PC for you, and then it’s ready, however, before purchasing my PC, I would like to know if it will all be compatible, so that it will work and I can do stuff on it. I also would like to know if it will work in general, for example if I need a higher power supply,or any other equipment, if there are any incompatibility errors. If you notice any incompatibilities, please comment them and say what parts I could do with replacing. Thanks in advance!

    Here is the link to my build - https://www.gladiatorpc.co.uk/share/mygladiator/1377694

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    Re: New PC
    « Reply #1 on: August 10, 2018, 11:44:05 AM »
    Promitheius,
    This forum welcomes newcomers.  :)
    However, I have some doubts.  :(
    The company in the link does a lot of social networking stuff.
    I recommend the moderator remove the link.

    Now if you are really interested in saving money and getting the best service, go local.
    Where you live are other game players who like to build camping PCs and they will help you DIY.

    Almost any game PC will run standard software, that is a fact.  However, the ability to scale up is an illusion. Once you lock in on a build, trying to i,prove it becomes very costly or near impossible.  Intel and AMD want it that way. They keep twerking the sockets on CPU designs. Pin compatibility tossed out the back  door.

    The company you mention has some very negative reviews from credible sources. Buy very hard to find in a Google search. They pay Google for help with their advertising.

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      Re: New PC
      « Reply #2 on: August 10, 2018, 03:45:58 PM »
      Hi, thanks for the answer :)

      Yes, I know someone who knows a decent amount about PC’s, and he’s shown me a couple that he recommends. I’ll have a look at these. Thanks for the advice :D appreciate it. :D

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      Re: New PC
      « Reply #3 on: August 10, 2018, 04:49:50 PM »
      Thanks for responding.
      Many people build there own PCs. I have as a hobbyist done number of different electronic things over the years, including one of the early Personal Computers back in 1976.

      Bu in resent years the economics of modern life makes is hard to DIY unless you want to spend some time getting involved in the process. The best you can do is find a local friend to give you he direct help you need.

      That company you mentioned, and others like it, are doing what the can to make a profit . On of the most difficult  things in electronic technology is customer support. If it is cheap, it is bad. If it is good, you pay for it. It is hard to mass-produce personal help.  White silicon becomes cheaper, sweat and teas are still the same price.

      A few people have reported terrible customer support issues with that company. But that is not unusual. All the profitable companies have a hard time with customer support. Unless the customer is willing to pay for it.

      I am sure you will find some local people twill help you because  they want to.

      IMO, if you want a  great  PC and save money, try bluing a rectified Alien ware gamer  PC with a warranty.
      Look here:
      https://www.newegg.com/
      Search for refurbished Alienware

      But if you want a custom build...
       - you have to get into it yourself with a friend.  :D

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      Re: New PC
      « Reply #4 on: August 10, 2018, 05:22:01 PM »
      what will be the main usage of that new PC?

      because the price tag would suggest a SERIOUS gaming rig.
      at $AUD4000, that is one *censored* of a machine.

      so if you were thinking; Office, emails, printing, web searches, etc - then it is way too much.
      if you wanted AutoCAD, Photoshop, 3D rendering and high-end games with max FPS and resolution - fine - money well spent.

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      Re: New PC
      « Reply #5 on: August 10, 2018, 05:23:46 PM »
      It doesn't look like a bad system although it's probably worth listing what you plan on using it for including things like what sort of resolution you plan on using if it's for gaming.  The CPU and graphic card in that machine are both extremely high end, the CPU in particular being one of Intel's "Extreme" chips which means that not only is the CPU expensive but it also requires a much more expensive motherboard.  While this doesn't mean the machine will perform badly, you may just end up not taking advantage of the hardware you have and end up spending more money than you need to.

      The only change I'd really make to that (beyond maybe decreasing some of the parts if they are overkill for your needs) would be to replace that SATA SSD with one of the NVMe ones as these are significantly faster.  It's also worth considering if you really need that sound card, the integrated audio on modern motherboards is almost always good enough and even if it's not then you'd likely be better off with a decent USB DAC instead of an internal sound card.

      It's also worth shopping around other custom PC manufacturers (off the top of my head I can think of Overclockers UK, Scan and PC Specialist) to price up the same build to make sure that one builder isn't charging way over the odds.  It's also worth considering building it yourself as you'll save a fair bit and learn a whole lot doing it (which can also come in very handy down the line if you ever have problems with the machine or want to upgrade it).  Probably worth speaking to your friend as they may be willing to help you build.  At the very least I'd price up the individual parts separately just to actually visualise how much you are spending on the building service.

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        Re: New PC
        « Reply #6 on: August 11, 2018, 08:32:07 AM »
        Thanks for all the replies, yea, I’ve had a read around, and to be honest I’ve always had pre built one. I don’t have the time or know how to build one. There’s a pre-built system that I’m looking at, at the minute. I think that it’s quite a jump from the prevously mentioned build. However, I’m not one to complain, and tbh at the end of the I’m quite happy with any machine that I get, if it will run games smoother than what I have atm, my currently build is quite a few years old, so that’s why I’m looking to upgrade. My current one is struggling to keep up, and I don’t get decent performance from it. ~20 to 30 FPS. In the game I play the most, and it’s not a smooth 30 FPS, it’s quite noticeably jumpy. I usually get around the same FPS whatever game I play. This is the build that I’m looking at know - https://www.box.co.uk/MSI-Aegis-X3-VR7RE-031UK-Desktop-Gaming-_2263508.html - I’m considering getting it from the website that the link sends you to, box.co.uk , however I’ve read the reviews, and some of them are good, and some are bad. You can have a read, if you like. However I do have another friend that did buy an MSI laptop from this place, and he’s said that he hasn’t (touch wood) had any problems up to yet with his laptop. So I think that I might go for this, and quite possibly buy a monitor, with the rest of the left over money. Thanks again for all the replies, :D I appreciate it :D

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        Re: New PC
        « Reply #7 on: August 11, 2018, 09:26:09 AM »
        The spec of that MSI looks okay although personally I'd avoid it.  It's a strange form factor which uses small form factor parts in a completely custom case which will massively impact your ability when it comes to upgrading or repairing it in the future.  It's also based on Intel's previous generation Kaby Lake CPU, not their latest Coffee Lake one.  If you're wanting something prebuilt, I'd still always order it custom built from a place such as Overclockers UK, Scan or PC Specialist instead of buying something off the shelf. At least with those they will use standardised parts and you'll know exactly what it going into it.
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          Re: New PC
          « Reply #8 on: August 11, 2018, 10:19:59 AM »
          Yes, I’m still looking at the minute, and to be completely honest, wouldn’t mind if I got a pre built or a custome built. I am looking at custom built ones though. From a few websites, (these were all recommend to me) https://www.chillblast.com / https://www.stormforcegaming.co.uk / https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk / https://www.fiercepc.co.uk

          Thanks again. If any of you could recommend a build? I mainly play ArmA 3, No Mans Sky, and to be honest these are the hardest games to run, at least on my current computer. I play other games but I can run them decently well, with ok performance. However I struggle to run ArmA 3 and No Mans Sky on even the automatics system detected settings, and I’ve tried to do it as low as it will go aswell, and it just struggles to get decent performance.

          Thanks again :D