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Re: Disk Cloning software
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2019, 11:10:58 AM »
I too have used Macrium Reflect for cloning, however when pushing a cloned image to a larger drive you may need to resize the partition on the destination drive or you can keep it the same partition size and make another partition in the unused space if you like.

I think the most interesting clone I did once was that I wanted to push my HDD to a new SSD but the SSD was smaller than the HDD. I ended up backing up my data off of the HDD to an external drive and got the data down to 70GB with installed content+windows 7. I then resized my partition on the 250GB HDD to 120GB and then cloned the undersized 120GB partition from the 250GB HDD to the 120GB SSD. This worked perfect and the system then was running on the 120GB SSD with around 45GB free.

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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2019, 12:20:09 PM »
I daresay you can do this with other tools, but with Macrium, when cloning, you can adjust the destination partition size. First, of course, you make sure that the source partition has less data on it than the target partition size.  The Samsung app I got with an SSD did all that me automatically.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-clone-your-pcs-hard-drive-macrium-reflect#small




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Re: Disk Cloning software
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2019, 04:55:14 PM »
The most important thing that hasn't been mentioned is verifying the image after creating...
Nothin suxx more than an hour and a half restoring a bad image...
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Re: Disk Cloning software
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2019, 07:46:57 PM »
Disk Clone is a popular topic.
Here are some CH links:

https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/d/disk-clone.htm

https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001914.htm

a few year sago Norton Ghost was the choice:
https://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php?topic=34032.0

Macrium  Reflect is not free, buyout can get permission to use a copy free.
https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

The list below is not complete, but it provides a starting point for more investigation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_disk_cloning_software
Note there are versions for Apple,  Linux an d Windows.

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Re: Disk Cloning software
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2019, 01:00:43 AM »
Macrium  Reflect is not free, buyout can get permission to use a copy free.

Macrium Reflect has a free edition, which you can download, without asking anyone's "permission".


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Re: Disk Cloning software
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2019, 02:30:18 AM »
The most important thing that hasn't been mentioned is verifying the image after creating...
Nothin suxx more than an hour and a half restoring a bad image...

Yes. Well said! Macrium option:



After backup, check log:



I was backing up a 120 GB SSD with about 80 GB of data (ignoring swap and hibernate files), onto a 4 TB USB3 external drive. Macrium image compression set to 'medium' (default). An unverified backup takes about 10 minutes, and the verification adds about 6 minutes to that.

This is the part of a backup process that many people forget about, often to their cost when disaster strikes. A successful recovery from trouble needs these things to be true:

1. You made a backup.
2. The backup completed.
3. The backup is a valid one.
4. The backup didn't get lost or damaged.
5. You have the means to restore an image or copy.
6. You know how to do a restore.

You can manage (1) quite simply. Have a schedule, do the backups. Ensure (2) is satisfied by observing the backup process and any alerts it creates, and looking for a backup file of appropriate date, time and size. You can achieve (3) by setting any 'verify' options the backup app provides and watching for the success message or log entry. I deal with (4) by using 3 different locations for backup images - a NAS, a USB 3 external drive, a SATA internal drive, and rotating the location each time. If one or even two backup drive(s) go down, I've got a good backup to use. I manage (5) by having a bootable medium (actually 2, a bootable USB pen drive and a bootable CD, and I've tested both). Without (6), even if you do the preceding things, you are, effectively stuffed, so it is important to take the time to actually do a restore, even if you don't really need to.

I have read disaster stories where mainframes, minis, or servers fail, and the admins say "no worries! we've done rotating backups onto tape cartridges!" and found, when attempting a restore, that the tape machine has been borked for months and they have a whole bunch of religiously rotated blank tapes.

I should add that I have successfully made an image backup of a drive, and then restored that image to a different drive. I installed an SSD that way to a laptop.

« Last Edit: March 09, 2019, 02:50:01 AM by Salmon Trout »

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Re: Disk Cloning software
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2019, 01:59:39 PM »
No...you have the source HDD in place...you connect the destination HDD as slave...and you run Macrium from a bootable media...
No 3rd PC or 2nd PC required...

Sorry for the long absence. The PC is at my parents so I plan to do it this weekend. Just to clear things up. I will call this the HTPC. Both source and target drives are 1TB in size, but different manufacturers. So just to be sure, I want to shrink the size of the Source, plug the target into the HTPC, and just copy it while it's operating. Worse case scenario I have to reinstall windows.

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Re: Disk Cloning software
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2019, 02:59:31 PM »
If they are identical in size no need to shrink the source...
That can create more issues than you need...
After the clone is succesful you can then use Easus Partition Manager to create partitions if needed...
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Re: Disk Cloning software
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2019, 12:04:53 AM »
I only worry about size because the drives are not the same manufacturer. We'll see tomorrow when I look at it.

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Re: Disk Cloning software
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2019, 12:12:32 AM »
For what it is worth.  8)
Disk Clone work is not rocket science. 
There are lots of tutorials on the Internet.
Here are a few worth a mention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__9k1M_2FKo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F2nh35jq58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5mqUVzHoLw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn6ALccip1Y

https://www.easeus.com/backup-utility/copy-and-clone-hard-drive.html
This one has text, video and screenshots.

My recommendation is simple. Practice on something that does not matter.
And make a conventional backup image before you clone.  :)

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Re: Disk Cloning software
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2019, 11:58:51 AM »
Sorry everyone!

Tried to reply to this thread over the weekend, and it had vanished. No idea why or what happened. Still dont fully understand the notification system in this forum because I used to get email notifications when someone replied.

ANYWAYS.

It was a success. Had to ensure the Target drive had no partition and I simply dragged all the partitions and it cloned successfully without a hitch. Was super fast too!

So just wanted to say thank you to all who helped bring me back to seeing how great Macrium is.

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    Re: Disk Cloning software
    « Reply #26 on: March 19, 2019, 01:03:50 PM »
    Good of you to report back Comda.

    I've always remained loyal to Acronis but it seems I might have to give Macrium a shot when I next need to clone :)

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    Re: Disk Cloning software
    « Reply #27 on: March 19, 2019, 03:37:59 PM »
    Great news Comda...Congrats ! !
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    « Reply #28 on: March 26, 2019, 12:02:19 PM »
    Great news Comda...Congrats ! !

    I hear Acronis is better for older versions of windows. I'll try it out cause I think I have to duplicate a windows 95 drive while I still can LOL.

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    Re: Disk Cloning software
    « Reply #29 on: March 26, 2019, 04:30:53 PM »
    Easus will do fine...Acronis ain't Free...
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