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WillyW



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Re: MSDOS is all thats left please help
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2007, 05:28:47 PM »
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the "old" boot disk i refer to is one that was made from the computor i am trying to fix BEFORE i lost the operating system.. it is windowsME...it doesnt work to the point where it will install but it will boot me up to the A: prompt... as will another disc i made from my acer windowxp.. a MSDOS startup disk... these are the only boot disks that will get me anywhere at all and then i get stuck at the A: prompt...

And nobody knows just what is on them, regarding CD-ROM support.
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the boot disks i have been told to download from bootdisk so far none have worked. i am downloading them to C drive first (on a working computor) and then sending them to a floppy..

Hold it.    Stop right there.    

Yesterday,  in my last PM to you,  after I'd asked you to start a thread instead,    I said:

Quoting myself:
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 At   http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
 
it says,  " DOCS:
1. Most of the files above are disk images. Download the file to your C: drive, put a fresh disk in your A: drive, then click on the file to create the bootdisk.  "
 
Did you do this,  or simply copy the file you downloaded to a floppy?
 
Farther down on that page are comments about OEM disks.  
Be sure to read the whole page.
 
I hope this helps.  

 Yesterday, I went to the web address that I included,  and that text above is a copy-and-paste from there.

That PM from me to you has been received by you,  so it is fair to assume that it has been read and understood.

Now you need to explain your above, "...and then sending them to a floppy."
To me, and I bet to most reading here,  that means  copied to floppy.
That is not what the instructions said to do.  
If you would like to read them in context,  just go to the address that is in the above quoted PM.

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when i try to boot with these, i get "remove disk and press any key"...

Which sounds to me just like a non-bootable disk.... which is what you would have if you simply copied the file(s) from bootdisk.com to a floppy.

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if i boot with the "old" startup disk i can then put in another floppy and A: dir /p and it will list the files on the floppy but dont know where to go from there... if at A:> i type E:setup, it tells me invalid path.

Which sounds to me just like a bootable floppy that does not load support for a CD-ROM.    
That's why you need to put this floppy, and any other old floppies you might have aside.   You need to boot with something that we all know what you have.....  thus,  bootdisk.com and follow their directions.

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it seems hopeless. ....

Because you are wheel spinning.   :)


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thank you so much for trying to help, i dont want to give up, but nothing is working  :'(

Because you are doing the same thing, over and over.



Now then.... if you still have the file you downloaded from bootdisk.com on a hard drive, on a working computer -  follow the directions:
"put a fresh disk in your A: drive, then click on the file to create the bootdisk.  "  

Let us know what happens when you do that much.   Just that.

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Re: MSDOS is all thats left please help
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2007, 06:01:18 PM »
i downloaded them to C: and right clicked on the file and send to A:floppy  :-[

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Re: MSDOS is all thats left please help
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2007, 06:12:25 PM »
YOU WERE RIGHT  :D I AM SO HAPPY...at least now i know HOW to make the disk, I made winME and it did load up somewhat,, i have 3 files missing or corrupted, and errors on 3 lines in config. ill be back........

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Re: MSDOS is all thats left please help
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2007, 06:49:40 PM »
I was making the floppy wrong... i made boot disk 98 per advice earlier, and it did install the cdrom "banana" but no device driver found ... and no valid CDROM driver selected.. after that it goes to A:

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Re: MSDOS is all thats left please help
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2007, 12:02:37 AM »
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i put a new CDROM in a few weeks ago, and the computor doesnt see it.. i get DEVICE DRIVER NOT FOUND

All the boot disks that have been used cannot be NBG.  Has the plugging of the cdrom been checked and is the cdrom jumperable as Master/Slave and is the jumper set correct :-?

The device driver will not be installed if the cdrom is not recognised.

When you get this message
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and it did install the cdrom "banana" but no device driver found ... and no valid CDROM driver selected..
it indicates that the device driver has not been installed because the device has not been found.

The problem is with hardware not with a driver.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2007, 12:10:28 AM by Dusty »
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Re: MSDOS is all thats left please help
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2007, 04:06:01 AM »
And possible with THE driver. There is a lot of PEBCAK.  ::)

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Re: MSDOS is all thats left please help
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2007, 04:44:26 PM »
I would like to know the Manufacturer and model
number of the computer you are attempting to
fix.

Are you using the install CD that came with it and
was there originally a special floppy disk used
with your original install CD and the floppy disk
was specifically used to install your restore CD?
« Last Edit: February 15, 2007, 04:57:20 PM by street1 »
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Re: MSDOS is all thats left please help
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2007, 05:41:31 PM »
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I would like to know the Manufacturer and model
number of the computer you are attempting to
fix.
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See the first post in this thread.    

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Re: MSDOS is all thats left please help
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2007, 06:02:18 PM »
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I would like to know the Manufacturer and model
number of the computer you are attempting to
fix.
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See the first post in this thread.    


Thanks WillyW after the long read of this post....
I forgot the first entry in the novel.

Again,Thanks for keeping me straight. ;D
« Last Edit: February 15, 2007, 06:04:12 PM by street1 »
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Re: MSDOS is all thats left please help
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2007, 07:00:37 PM »
sorrry street  :-[ ... anyway i appreciate all the help...

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Re: MSDOS is all thats left please help
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2007, 07:13:33 PM »
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i put a new CDROM in a few weeks ago, and the computor doesnt see it.. i get DEVICE DRIVER NOT FOUND

All the boot disks that have been used cannot be NBG.  Has the plugging of the cdrom been checked and is the cdrom jumperable as Master/Slave and is the jumper set correct :-?

The device driver will not be installed if the cdrom is not recognised.

When you get this message
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and it did install the cdrom "banana" but no device driver found ... and no valid CDROM driver selected..
it indicates that the device driver has not been installed because the device has not been found.

The problem is with hardware not with a driver.

i took the cdrom out and set the jumper as per instructions from the manufacturer, and it still remains the same, but i am hopeful.  since im already as embarrassed as i can possibly be, i am going to ask you what do you mean by "set the jumper"..i reset both cdrom and the one underneath it as the instructions described, is there another step? meanwhile i will keep reading, and sorry again about the "novel" :(

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Re: MSDOS is all thats left please help
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2007, 03:41:45 AM »
First.I am sorry about the"novel" remark.

I was joking with WillyW.

Have you tried with the one underneath
it........you mentioned, left unplugged from
the 4 pin power plug and ribbon cable?
« Last Edit: February 16, 2007, 03:42:36 AM by street1 »
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Re: MSDOS is all thats left please help
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2007, 06:08:01 PM »
Hi.. i followed the instructions on the new cd to install and what i dont understand is that on the Compaq site it says to set the jumper to cable select, and on the instructions from the new cd says set it to Master/Slave, which i did, taking the advice given here..it didnt work.. maybe the cable needs replaced? the one underneath Adapti, is plugged the way was, (i had to change the jumper setting on it to Slave) as it was also set to cable select..im kinda at a loss but i am going to try it again.  :-?

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Re: MSDOS is all thats left please help
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2007, 07:52:32 PM »
Some machines are set up to use CS. No problem there as long as you set both drives to CS and are familiar with how that works. The device on the farthest point of the cable is effectively the master.

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Re: MSDOS is all thats left please help
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2007, 08:55:22 PM »
i took it apart again, set the New CDROM and Adapti to cable select as per compaq and it did not work.. i checked everything, and it just doesnt work. the only thing left to try is to replace the ribbon cable but im pretty much done. i give up.. thanks everyone for your expert and patient advice. any advice on how to get a system back in there WITHOUT  a cd?..what about xternal?  thanks again :)