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Re: AVG vs. Avast -- Two major features to look for
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2007, 04:15:38 PM »
AVG, as I recall, only scans the files about to be booted during its bootup scan.

Boot-Time scan, however, is like running your OnDemmand scanner, but quicker, and with more resources available, and no files in use.

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Re: AVG vs. Avast -- Two major features to look for
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2007, 04:18:18 PM »
By the way -

A sometimes handy little tool to have:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eicar_test_file


I can't seem to find it/download it at  http://www.eicar.org/    ,   but it is easy to make it with the info found on that wiki page.


Besides using it to test your own system,  it can provide a bit of fun if you can get a copy of it onto a friends system.     :o
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Re: AVG vs. Avast -- Two major features to look for
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2007, 04:19:18 PM »
AVG, as I recall, only scans the files about to be booted during its bootup scan.

Boot-Time scan, however, is like running your OnDemmand scanner, but quicker, and with more resources available, and no files in use.

Ah.
Ok.

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    Re: AVG vs. Avast -- Two major features to look for
    « Reply #18 on: May 06, 2007, 06:56:44 PM »
    ill try anything thing that works and is not a infections its self but ive grown fond of avg.

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    Re: AVG vs. Avast -- Two major features to look for
    « Reply #19 on: May 06, 2007, 09:49:25 PM »
    AVG, as I recall, only scans the files about to be booted during its bootup scan.

    Boot-Time scan, however, is like running your OnDemmand scanner, but quicker, and with more resources available, and no files in use.

    Ah.
    Ok.

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    This is inaccurate...

    p.s. Zylstra do me a favor...make a folder and nest it 5 levels deep and place eicar in there and see if Avast finds it even on it's thourough scan....a root beer says it won't.
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    Re: AVG vs. Avast -- Two major features to look for
    « Reply #20 on: May 06, 2007, 10:06:10 PM »
    AVG, as I recall, only scans the files about to be booted during its bootup scan.

    Boot-Time scan, however, is like running your OnDemmand scanner, but quicker, and with more resources available, and no files in use.

    Ah.
    Ok.

    Thanks

    This is inaccurate...

    p.s. Zylstra do me a favor...make a folder and nest it 5 levels deep and place eicar in there and see if Avast finds it even on it's thourough scan....a root beer says it won't.

    Just did, "Caution, a virus has been detected"

    How is it inaccurate?

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    Re: AVG vs. Avast -- Two major features to look for
    « Reply #21 on: May 06, 2007, 11:13:54 PM »
    AVG, as I recall, only scans the files about to be booted during its bootup scan.

    Boot-Time scan, however, is like running your OnDemmand scanner, but quicker, and with more resources available, and no files in use.

    Ah.
    Ok.

    Thanks

    This is inaccurate...

    p.s. Zylstra do me a favor...make a folder and nest it 5 levels deep and place eicar in there and see if Avast finds it even on it's thourough scan....a root beer says it won't.
    I'd like to know why that would make a difference.  Any scanner that can't do this would have to be very poorly designed.  I wouldn't say that Avast! is the greatest, but it's certainly not that bad.

    One thing I would like to point out, though, is that AVG detects Eicar the very second it's created.  As soon as I save the file, AVG notifies me.
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      Re: AVG vs. Avast -- Two major features to look for
      « Reply #22 on: May 06, 2007, 11:20:02 PM »
      yep same here

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      Re: AVG vs. Avast -- Two major features to look for
      « Reply #23 on: May 07, 2007, 02:20:13 AM »
      Try packing it 5 levels deep in an archive then, rather than folders.

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        Re: AVG vs. Avast -- Two major features to look for
        « Reply #24 on: May 07, 2007, 04:34:17 AM »
        AVG, as I recall, only scans the files about to be booted during its bootup scan.

        Boot-Time scan, however, is like running your OnDemmand scanner, but quicker, and with more resources available, and no files in use.

        Ah.
        Ok.

        Thanks

        This is inaccurate...

        p.s. Zylstra do me a favor...make a folder and nest it 5 levels deep and place eicar in there and see if Avast finds it even on it's thourough scan....a root beer says it won't.
        I'd like to know why that would make a difference.  Any scanner that can't do this would have to be very poorly designed.  I wouldn't say that Avast! is the greatest, but it's certainly not that bad.

        One thing I would like to point out, though, is that AVG detects Eicar the very second it's created.  As soon as I save the file, AVG notifies me.
        As soon as I click on the link to download it Avast warns me.

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        Re: AVG vs. Avast -- Two major features to look for
        « Reply #25 on: May 07, 2007, 05:23:01 AM »
        Try packing it 5 levels deep in an archive then, rather than folders.
        No matter what I try to archive it with, access is denied.
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        Re: AVG vs. Avast -- Two major features to look for
        « Reply #26 on: May 07, 2007, 09:27:46 AM »

        As soon as I click on the link to download it Avast warns me.


        Where was that?     Please post the link.



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        Re: AVG vs. Avast -- Two major features to look for
        « Reply #27 on: May 07, 2007, 09:36:53 AM »
        Try packing it 5 levels deep in an archive then, rather than folders.
        No matter what I try to archive it with, access is denied.

        I don't remember now how I did it.    Probably booted to DOS.

        Here's a copy of the zip file I keep.   




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        Re: AVG vs. Avast -- Two major features to look for
        « Reply #28 on: May 07, 2007, 02:09:55 PM »
        Try packing it 5 levels deep in an archive then, rather than folders.
        Compressed "folders" are one single file. They dont technically hold different folders.

        It also depends on the scan type.
        (A lot of virus scanners allow a user to not scan .zip and other packers, since it takes longer)

        I cant even start downloading the virus file, since Avast stops it before I even click "Save As"

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        Re: AVG vs. Avast -- Two major features to look for
        « Reply #29 on: May 07, 2007, 05:20:22 PM »
        ...

        It also depends on the scan type.
        (A lot of virus scanners allow a user to not scan .zip and other packers, since it takes longer)

        I cant even start downloading the virus file, since Avast stops it before I even click "Save As"


        From where?     
        The eicar.zip file attached above?      or from.... ?


        Wherever it is from, that is very interesting. 
        I wonder how AV software running on your computer can know what is in a file residing on another computer,  before a transfer even begins.

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