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Now, it is possible to get an addon for this forum to add spell check, but requiring it would be pointless.

Raptor, you like to complain, don't you?

Now where did you get that idea?

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You will then appreciate this forum for what it really is.

If you make this forum real strict and guidelines galore,
hope you two enjoy the vacuum.

*censored*. Just because people have to let know their hardware settings and are forced to do a spellcheck before posting doesn't mean it turns into nazi-germany..

Conservative bollocks, I'd like to see Nathan's opinion.

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I requested that this forum have an option during registration to select your experience level, but now that I think of it, it would be kind of pointless.

Other than that, the only reason to have extra registration options is to reduce the spambots that make it past our CAPATCHA system.


And it would be a pain for most users to register that information.

What would be neat is if ComputerHope had a special tool made for the forums that would allow a user to get their system specs when they don't know how.

Nathan might be potentially avoiding this topic...

You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers, Raptor.

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    GX i wouldnt mind being the test dummy for spell check maybe it will help prepare me for english next fall

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    of course i do....
    i jusst got portable fr at work

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    Other than that, the only reason to have extra registration options is to reduce the spambots that make it past our CAPATCHA system.

    I'm not in the debating mood this evening (things are too stressful in reality at the moment), so I'm going to stray off-topic for just a minute...

    Whatever happened to the registration method of using a hidden text field that spambots would detect, but actual people wouldn't be able to see?  I remember there being some issues with screenreaders possibly picking it up, but I imagine this could be solved with a bit of clever CSS.
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    Well,it appears to me Nathan has already covered everything
    real well.

    When a post is not correct,or makes you angry,or confused... why not just add a link--->

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    « Last Edit: May 18, 2007, 05:23:47 AM by street1 »
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    And it would be a pain for most users to register that information.

    What would be neat is if ComputerHope had a special tool made for the forums that would allow a user to get their system specs when they don't know how.

    It's an even bigger pain for us to request it every time.

    Sorry, I don't see in why we should bear the trouble that the OP's should in reality. We don't get paid for this, so they could at least be courteous and provide us all the information we need.. Or be forced to.

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    And it would be a pain for most users to register that information.

    What would be neat is if ComputerHope had a special tool made for the forums that would allow a user to get their system specs when they don't know how.

    It's an even bigger pain for us to request it every time.

    Sorry, I don't see in why we should bear the trouble that the OP's should in reality. We don't get paid for this, so they could at least be courteous and provide us all the information we need.. Or be forced to.

    Do you dare argue with the Gerber baby? ;D
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    Been meaning to reply to this post just knew it was going to be a long one and take some time.. but without further adieu here is a reply. It's long..  :-\

    1. Good ideas, potentially difficult to implement because of the requirement to fill out the data.

    2. Still working with ISP on spell check option, but something I am doing. Need to get the pspell PHP module on the server. Although at first I don't believe it would be something that would be mandatory.

    3. Believe it's possible with a mod. However, not sure how many people really look at the profiles.

    4. Would be extremely difficult to implement something like this I would imagine. Besides the technical difficulties of implementing actually getting dedicated people to answer specific questions really makes it hard for other people to come in and participate if there are only select individuals for each category.

    5. Really already done. If users let me know of problems with users, I warn the user if not something that is blatantly against the forum rules. If something such as spamming, I just ban first offense, no point in three strike rule if rules are already stated when registering.

    6. Not sure if something like this could be done.

    7. This would have to be something voted on before even thought about implementing. I believe a post was made back in the YaBB days about post counts. Lots of people enjoy the post count system and wouldn't want it to be hidden.

    8. Whew, something like this would be way hard to implement, I can't even fathom a method of doign this (although it's pretty late so brains kind of fried).

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    1. I wouldn't go so far to say the forum is not making progress. But really it comes down to the users and the consistent problems of doing repeat questions. Many of the questions on the forums are also answered on the main Computer Hope page, can be found in the search on the forum and on the main site. Yet many of the questions will always continue to be repeated because of either the users inability to perform simple searches or because searches are not pulling results with the words they're using. So really it's not a simple solution. :/

    2. The Off-Topic section was created as a way for users to talk about other things, help build a community (maybe get more users with more than 10 posts), and a place for people to just talk -- a place for users who may be new to computers who can't really answer questions to talk.

    I really never thought of the news section turning to another off-topic section, I think it's a section that really has a lot of good computer related news, which it was designed for.

    3. While I agree with most of what you said, you also have to take into consideration you're dealing with **new computer users**, many users have a hard enough time registering and posting a message on the forums. So you have to give many of the users some slack.

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    What would be neat is if ComputerHope had a special tool made for the forums that would allow a user to get their system specs when they don't know how.
    My idea (although haven't be able to do it), was to lookup on the browser information and pull the OS and have it inserted into the message. Much like how the e-mail support forum auto selects the Operating system. My problem is getting it into the forum code.







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    Condensed version and what I think would be the next best step..

    I think before even going after most of what's been discussed on this thread we work on the primary issues. Based off reading everyones comments and also off of my own experience I think the biggest issue most people complain about and probably what this whole post was about is repeat questions and not enough information.

    Let's first work on solutions for these two issues. If anyone has any additional suggestions on resolving these two problems apart from what has already been suggested please feel free to post them and I'll try my best at working on those issues first.

    Or -- if I'm wrong about what I think are the two biggest issues tell me what are the two biggest issues. I obviously can't resolve everything on this list anytime soon so lets start with just start with the biggest issues.

    *Spelling is technically not an issue because I've been working with ISP to get the PHP module going so I can enable the spell check feature.
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    I have been to another site that uses the above as part
    of the original post.I believe it gives a lot of starting
    information.

    Then again, a post like this should have been a PM to
    Nathan to start with.An obvious respect issue.

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      Why not just force a new registrant to a "please read this first" that has been modified to tell them how to obtain the basic information. This could probably be done based a 0 post count or from the registration screen by adding a continue button linked to it.
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      I have been to another site that uses the above as part
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      That does list some important, very basic info.

      But let's think about it. 

      Try to turn back time.... to the time when you knew  nothing.   
      When you hit those questions,  you were stuck.    You could not proceed until you somehow found out that info. 


      :(     Not good for the newcomer to a forum.   He might just move on.


      Or....
      Another kind of new comer ... not quite so studious....    might easily provide responses like:

      Subject:   Help!
      Exact OS:   I don't know
      CPU/RAM:  Intel Inside / 250 Gig
      Manufacturer/Model:    Best Buy/  on sale

      then keep right on moving,   because (in his mind)  he's here to get some help,  so he's got to get his question posted.


      I agree that it would be great to get at least that basic info.
      IF you can get it  -  and without running people off.   




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      Yeh WillyW, that was my first though when I saw Stree1's post.
      Not a really good idea

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      lol, nice RAM man.

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        nice RAM man

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