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    Re: defrag win98 with ME defrag?
    « Reply #15 on: October 21, 2007, 05:41:25 PM »
    WillyW:

    I have tried all three; Win98, WinME, and Diskeeper Lite 7.0 (DKLite) defrag; and I am reporting from personal experience.  I installed DKLite defrag on my WinME system and used it for many months.  In the standard installation it coexists with the standard WinME defrag.  If you access the defrag utility from the "tools" tab of the "properties" dialog of a logical disk, it serves up the DKLite utility.  If you access the defrag utility from the Windows Start Menu, as in Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> Disk Defragmenter, it serves up the standard WinME defrag.

    I use a small 512 MB USB Flash Drive to port files back and forth.  I also use floppy disks for diagnostic tools.  I like to keep them defragged for performance purposes.  Since my flash drive is pretty full, I prefer to keep whatever space is available in a contiguous block at the end.  DKLite did not do this for me and it does not support floppy drives (at least that's my recollection).  Since I could never remember to defrag these from the "System Tools" submenu, I would always end up accessing the defrag utility twice before I got the right one.  Because of the inconvenience to me I finally uninstalled DKLite.

    That said, DKLite worked fine and is much faster than the standard Win9x/ME defrag utilities.  The defrag tools for WinXP (obviously not for Win9x/ME systems) also leave "available" cluster gaps in the file system.  They defrag files and do a pretty good job of packing them tight, but they won't sacrifice performance (total defrag time) to do it.  Nor should they.

    I, like you, wondered whether a first pass by DKLite could quickly defrag files while a second pass by the standard Windows defrag (WinME in my case) would  finish the job.  The answer is yes, it does.  But not that fast.  Window defrag spends a lot of time sliding file cluster blocks up to close gaps.  I should also add that since I defrag regularly, I didn't have a lot of tiny defragged file pieces to put together, so not the best test.  But for me it wasn't worth the effort.

    Enough already...  Try it you'll like it...   It works as advertised...  dahlarbear

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    Re: defrag win98 with ME defrag?
    « Reply #16 on: October 21, 2007, 05:55:16 PM »
    Thank you for an update 8) 8) 8)

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    Re: defrag win98 with ME defrag?
    « Reply #17 on: October 21, 2007, 06:29:30 PM »
    DKLite leaves gaps ...i'm not sure what this is supposed to mean...
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    Re: defrag win98 with ME defrag?
    « Reply #18 on: October 22, 2007, 11:18:57 AM »
    WillyW:

    I have tried all three; Win98, WinME, and Diskeeper Lite 7.0 (DKLite) defrag; and I am reporting from personal experience.   ...


    Excellent.
    Thank you for the information, and your time in posting it.

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    Re: defrag win98 with ME defrag?
    « Reply #19 on: October 22, 2007, 11:20:51 AM »
    DKLite leaves gaps ...i'm not sure what this is supposed to mean...

    I believe it was a characteristic that he did not care for.

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    Re: defrag win98 with ME defrag?
    « Reply #20 on: October 22, 2007, 03:52:05 PM »
    I have not seen DKLite do this that's why i asked.
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    Re: defrag win98 with ME defrag?
    « Reply #21 on: October 22, 2007, 04:57:11 PM »
    I have not seen DKLite do this that's why i asked.

    Ah. Ok.  Understand now.


    And thanks for commenting from your experience.   That's very intesting.
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      Re: defrag win98 with ME defrag?
      « Reply #22 on: October 22, 2007, 07:17:38 PM »
      Patio:

      I have re-installed Diskeeper Lite 7.0 Build 418 (DKLite) on my HP Pavilion 6736 computer running Windows ME.  DKLite works as designed and is an excellent product.  I again used it to defrag several of the logical drives (FAT32) on my hard disk and a 512MB Lexar USB Jump Drive (formatted Fat16).  I did not benchmark this, but I believe it is faster than WinME defrag.exe.  DKLite successfully defragged all of my drives except for the floppy drive which it apparently doesn't support.  While I believe it defragged all of the files, the result was not one contiguous block of allocated clusters followed by one contiguous block of free clusters.  There were a handful of free cluster "gaps" (six or less) within the range of allocated clusters.  Not a big deal, but Win98 and WinME tightly pack all allocated clusters into what appears to be a single contiguous block of allocated clusters followed by the remaining free clusters in a single contiguous block.  Again not a big deal.  DKLite is an excellent product and I will probably leave it on my system to maintain option of using it.  It was removed earlier during a "spring cleaning" of my hard drive.

      Any chance this thread could  "... go softly into the night".