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    Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
    « on: November 08, 2007, 03:53:45 PM »
    I think you guys were right about my computer memory, because after I installed webcam software, it said that "windows is increasing your memory paging file" then became really slow..lol so the other day I ran defrag on the C: drive, and it succesfully defragged all but a few files..and now it seems to be fine. Why does Windows run out of virtual memory, and If  I install new software how do I prevent it from happening again? :)
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    Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
    « Reply #1 on: November 08, 2007, 04:12:53 PM »
    What version of Windows do you have?  How much RAM do you have? 

    Quite likely, adding memory to your computer would prevent such messages or reduce the frequency of occurrence.

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    Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
    « Reply #2 on: November 08, 2007, 04:18:17 PM »
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      Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
      « Reply #3 on: November 08, 2007, 04:29:26 PM »
      Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
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      2.60 GHz 120 MB of RAM
       
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      Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
      « Reply #4 on: November 08, 2007, 04:52:39 PM »
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      120 MB of RAM
      128MB, maybe? If it's true. I'd be really, really low.

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        Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
        « Reply #5 on: November 08, 2007, 09:40:33 PM »
        No it's true!!! it says 120 mB of RAM in my system properties!!!!  :o
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        Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
        « Reply #6 on: November 08, 2007, 09:54:08 PM »
        Well, whatever it is, it's low. You need to get more RAM, and many of your problems will be gone.
        I'd suggest, at least 512MB, 1gig would be nice.

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          Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
          « Reply #7 on: November 08, 2007, 10:07:16 PM »
          Sounds good! and how will i get this extra memory? ;D
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          Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
          « Reply #8 on: November 08, 2007, 10:25:27 PM »
          Well, there is that little tool, called DOLLARS.......LOL

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          Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
          « Reply #9 on: November 09, 2007, 05:17:58 AM »
          Travel to Crucial.com and enter your system specs....this will tell you exactly what type of RAM you should go shopping for...
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          Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
          « Reply #10 on: November 11, 2007, 12:10:30 AM »
          For best result set the value of the initial size and maximum size of your virtual memory to be the same.

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            Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
            « Reply #11 on: November 11, 2007, 03:29:23 AM »
            Windows uses three kinds of memory.  You've got the cache memory which is actually on the CPU itself, which is very, very fast.  Then you've got the RAM, which is a tad slower, but is where most of your programs reside when running (because the cache is so small).  Then you've got "virtual memory," which is really just harddrive space that Windows uses when you run out of RAM.  The problem with virtual memory is that it is REALLY, REALLY SLOW.  So any time you run out of RAM, it spills over into virtual memory, and any time it does that, any any time it has to pull something out of virtual mem, your computer takes a noticable performance hit, because of how relatively slow it is. 

            Windows XP needs a minimum recommended 128 or 256 megs of ram, I forget which, JUST TO RUN WINDOWS.  So in your case, without really doing much of anything at all, you're already using virtual memory, and all your programs will load in that.  When windows creates virtual memory, it allocates a single, large chunk of harddrive space for this purpose -- it's not fragmented like your other programs can be.  So if the largest, defragmented chunk of free space you have is, say, 500 megs, that's the biggest your virtual memory can be.  If after you defrag, you have a 1500 meg space, then that's as big as your virtual memory can be.  Windows can adjust the size of the virtual memory as needed, but obviously can't do any more than what you have on your harddrive. 

            While it's always recommended to have at least 10% of your harddrive empty for virtual memory, a larger harddrive will NOT be as effective at speeding up your computer as buying more RAM will be.  1 gig of ram is rather cheap now (50 bucks or so) and will give your computer plenty of breathing room.

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            Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
            « Reply #12 on: November 11, 2007, 04:45:19 AM »
            I have 2gigs of ram and have my pagefile running @ 1gig or 1024mb, seems to be ok with this ratio!

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            Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
            « Reply #13 on: November 11, 2007, 01:24:47 PM »
            As a rule of thumb: VM size = 2.5 x RAM

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              Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
              « Reply #14 on: November 11, 2007, 02:13:39 PM »
              hmmm..I didn't know that! thanks for explaining! ;D
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              Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
              « Reply #15 on: November 11, 2007, 02:49:13 PM »
              For windows XP, 512 mb of ram will do you good. In windows vista, 1gb will do you goo... but if you do more memory intensive stuff like playing games or running apps, get 2gb.


              And for memory, try to get the fastest speed your computer can handle. For example, get PC3200 or PC4000 IF your motherboard accepts only ddr memory. Faster ram speeds are comptible with motherboards claiming to use only lower speeds.

              Mix and matching of different speeds and memory amounts do not matter usually, except for certain special cases.

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              Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
              « Reply #16 on: November 11, 2007, 08:01:47 PM »
              I've always used RAM X 1.5 = VM...

              Anything over 1G for a pagefile is wasted...unless you run Autocad 24 hours a day...
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                Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
                « Reply #17 on: November 12, 2007, 11:20:09 PM »
                thanks for the helpful info!!
                and..another question, why would my computer have such little Ram..120 MB in the first place? hehe  :) the usual minimum is 128? right?
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                Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
                « Reply #18 on: November 13, 2007, 05:09:13 PM »
                There is no such a thing as minimum RAM.
                Depending on Windows version, computer were coming with different sizes of RAM.
                If I remember correctly, many Windows XP computers had 128MB of RAM, like many basic Vista computers come with 512MB of RAM, which is obviously not enough to run Vista properly.
                Why does your computer read 120MB?
                Where are you getting this reading from?

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                Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
                « Reply #19 on: November 13, 2007, 05:36:00 PM »
                His vid-card is probably borrowing 8MG of RAM...
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                Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
                « Reply #20 on: November 13, 2007, 06:00:19 PM »
                Here you go....

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                  Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
                  « Reply #21 on: November 13, 2007, 10:20:46 PM »
                  There is no such a thing as minimum RAM.
                  Depending on Windows version, computer were coming with different sizes of RAM.
                  If I remember correctly, many Windows XP computers had 128MB of RAM, like many basic Vista computers come with 512MB of RAM, which is obviously not enough to run Vista properly.
                  Why does your computer read 120MB?
                  Where are you getting this reading from?
                  this reading came from my system properties..when you right click My Computer.
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                  Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
                  « Reply #22 on: November 14, 2007, 05:21:56 PM »
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                  His vid-card is probably borrowing 8MG of RAM...

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                    Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
                    « Reply #23 on: November 18, 2007, 11:45:30 PM »
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                    His vid-card is probably borrowing 8MG of RAM...
                    I think you all might find this new info useful; i found after digging around in system properties:
                    Total physical memory: 128 MB
                    Available phyical memroy: 10.39 mB
                    Total virtual memory: 2.00GB
                    Available virtual memory:1.96 Gb
                    Pagefile: 319.11MB ;D
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                    Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
                    « Reply #24 on: November 19, 2007, 08:19:10 AM »
                    AHA !

                    At any rate you would do that machine and yourself a favor to add more RAM...it's relatively inexpensive right now.
                    Travel to crucial.com and enter your system specs and it will tell you exactly what type your system likes...
                    You can then shop around for the best deal.
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                    Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
                    « Reply #25 on: November 19, 2007, 12:47:54 PM »
                    Do as Patio says my friend and get sum more RAM ASAP! i have 2gigs but i reckon any system of today should be running at least 1 gig!!

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                      Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
                      « Reply #26 on: November 19, 2007, 02:52:56 PM »
                      i use about 2 gig virtual memory with 128mb physical memory. comp goes fast

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                      Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
                      « Reply #27 on: November 19, 2007, 05:48:29 PM »
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                      At any rate you would do that machine and yourself a favor to add more RAM
                      Pretty soon, we're gonna be blue faced, trying to convince him to do so....LOOL

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                      i use about 2 gig virtual memory with 128mb physical memory. comp goes fast
                      I don't think, this is the best advice. VM is far from being as fast as RAM.

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                        Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
                        « Reply #28 on: November 19, 2007, 11:24:27 PM »
                        Okay okay hehehe!!! yah I need more becasue I don't even have enough memory to play games,,LOLL
                        sure sure I'll go to the website you gave patio, thanks!!! ;D
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                        Re: Windows virtual memory minimum too low..
                        « Reply #29 on: November 20, 2007, 03:51:48 PM »
                        i use about 2 gig virtual memory with 128mb physical memory. comp goes fast

                        Why ? ?
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                          « Reply #30 on: November 20, 2007, 06:04:19 PM »
                          Seems fairly obvious Patio, in this day and age if he's only got 128 megs of physical ram he NEEDS the 2 gigs of virtual.

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                          « Reply #31 on: November 20, 2007, 07:20:41 PM »
                          What's not fairly obvious in this day and age is running 128Mg of RAM which is where my question came from...
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                            « Reply #32 on: November 21, 2007, 12:01:53 AM »
                            What's not fairly obvious in this day and age is running 128Mg of RAM which is where my question came from...
                            My computer was purchased in early 2004...I haven't added any new drivers to it since then..except software. :)
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                              « Reply #33 on: November 21, 2007, 09:10:44 PM »
                              how did you go?

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                                « Reply #34 on: November 21, 2007, 10:01:21 PM »
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                                    « Reply #36 on: November 22, 2007, 09:04:27 AM »
                                    What's not fairly obvious in this day and age is running 128Mg of RAM which is where my question came from...
                                    My computer was purchased in early 2004...I haven't added any new drivers to it since then..except software. :)

                                    I'm wondering, what do you use your computer for?  For my purposes 128 megs of ram would be like putting cement shoes on a swimmer.

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                                      « Reply #37 on: November 23, 2007, 12:35:23 AM »
                                      What's not fairly obvious in this day and age is running 128Mg of RAM which is where my question came from...
                                      My computer was purchased in early 2004...I haven't added any new drivers to it since then..except software. :)

                                      I'm wondering, what do you use your computer for?  For my purposes 128 megs of ram would be like putting cement shoes on a swimmer.
                                      I use it to talk to people, listen to music and store photos :)
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                                      « Reply #38 on: November 23, 2007, 09:44:23 AM »
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                                      I use it to talk to people, listen to music and store photos
                                      Stop talking...get your shoes, and jacket, and go get that *censored* RAM.....LOOOOL

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                                        « Reply #39 on: November 23, 2007, 01:06:10 PM »
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                                        I use it to talk to people, listen to music and store photos
                                        Stop talking...get your shoes, and jacket, and go get that d**n RAM.....LOOOOL
                                        hahaha sure! :D I'll go online shopping right now! ohh forgot to mention..I also use my pc to study things :)..hehe!

                                        fyi, I probably have about 1,000 or more photos/documents stored in my pc.. 8)
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