Hi All, Evilfantasy-- I think you have put your finger on my having the Yahoo toolbar installed even though i did not check the box for it. I DID opt for the "Linkscanner" option and obviously that becomes part of the Yahoo toolbar. Sneaky way to get you to install Yahoo when all you really desired was the web scanner ability. I guess they have to pay for the scanner somehow? I cannot yet comment on whether there are still "May 31st " popups re the change date as i now have 8.0 installed on the one that did get the pop up. It is a win xp-pro machine. I do have other computers with win 98,win ME, and win xp-home on them but i have not run any of them yet to see what happens. Another point that has yet to be mentioned (and Grisoft does not mention it on their 8.0 download page) is that 8.0 will NOT install on a win 98 o/s. You only find that out AFTER you do the download and try to install it. i know-i know it is not supported by Bill anymore but i have no doubt that many thousands of users are still using it . Where these users are to go when AVG 7.5 is no longer updated with virus definitions will become a serious problem for the user. truenorth