Author Topic: YouTube Ordered to Give Complete User Logs to Viacom (Read 15471 times)

Computer Hope Admin · « **on:** July 03, 2008, 04:37:37 PM »

Wants to prove more people watch The Daily Show than homemade cat videos

As part of its $1 billion lawsuit against user-video site YouTube, Viacom will receive a complete log of all users’ activities, which will include a list of usernames, IP addresses, and videos that each account has viewed in the past.

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computeruler · « **Reply #1 on:** July 03, 2008, 05:17:23 PM »

so i could get sued for watching a tv show or music video or something?

squall_01 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 03, 2008, 05:34:19 PM »

What the ^*^$ thats unfair, theres probably like 500,0000,0000,000,00,0,0,0,0,0 you get the idea. What are they going to do with people who downloaded stuff? Still are?

Computer Hope Admin · « **Reply #3 on:** July 03, 2008, 08:58:05 PM »

Quote from: computeruler on July 03, 2008, 05:17:23 PM

so i could get sued for watching a tv show or music video or something?

I don't believe the lawsuit in question is going after people, but more after the person who has money: Google. By getting this information I believe they're hoping to prove that a lot of people are watching their programs enough to justify a lawsuit. Personally, I totally disagree with Google just giving away ALL users viewing information it's a huge privacy issue. They should only be giving away information that's relating to the lawsuit, e.g. Viacoms copyrighted material on their site.

Broni · « **Reply #4 on:** July 03, 2008, 09:59:33 PM »

I told you before, I need a gun....

squall_01 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 04, 2008, 04:38:49 AM »

Still looking for a liescene, that's still mean. Google maybe another Semi Gates but that don't mean that its encouraging people to watch it. It just happens to be in the sever system.

quaxo · « **Reply #6 on:** July 04, 2008, 08:10:34 AM »

Quote from: squall_01 on July 04, 2008, 04:38:49 AM

Still looking for a liescene, that's still mean. Google maybe another Semi Gates but that don't mean that its encouraging people to watch it. It just happens to be in the sever system.

Them having a copy of it on their server without permission makes it illegal. Them allowing people to access it only makes the situation worse.

squall_01 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 04, 2008, 08:41:00 AM »

True, but is that also for alot of other sites?

quaxo · « **Reply #8 on:** July 04, 2008, 08:49:57 AM »

Quote from: squall_01 on July 04, 2008, 08:41:00 AM

True, but is that also for alot of other sites?

Well, it's up to the copyright holder if they wish to enforce it.

squall_01 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 04, 2008, 10:44:54 AM »

Only they seem to care

quaxo · « **Reply #10 on:** July 04, 2008, 10:46:47 AM »

Quote from: squall_01 on July 04, 2008, 10:44:54 AM

Only they seem to care

Nah, a lot of companies tell YouTube to remove stuff. Only Viacom sues them. haha

squall_01 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 04, 2008, 11:48:09 AM »

Exatly, youtube is more of a promoter, to a degree.

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #12 on:** July 05, 2008, 08:52:19 AM »

Exactly- free publicity. I guess the problem here is the "free" portion...

squall_01 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 05, 2008, 01:17:08 PM »

So it seems but once its loaded its every where else too.

Computer Hope Admin · « **Reply #14 on:** July 08, 2008, 01:47:34 PM »

Still have a hard time believing this.

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Viacom doesn't want the names and IP addresses of YouTube users, and the company is trying to find a way to differentiate users without identifying them.

Last week, a judge ruled that Google had to release information on YouTube users to help determine whether the video-sharing site infringed on Viacom's copyrights. Viacom has said that its lawyers and advisers will guard the information they receive and will use it only for the court case.

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squall_01 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 08, 2008, 03:36:41 PM »

There full of it. to bad I reinstalled windows that should change my one IP address. Heres something else. Even if they did get that info its unlawful cause unless they look at the time it was acessed your not going to find the person who was looking at it. In other words you could be at CA from PA an choose one of Gates old pcs an got on in an internet cafe. something. Theres that one time user but the cafe would get punished.

Computer Hope Admin · « **Reply #16 on:** July 08, 2008, 04:50:42 PM »

Reinstalling Windows is not likely going to change your static IP address. In addition I believe if it does change it ISP's are required to log associated members to IP's in case problems arise.

squall_01 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:19:50 PM »

Thats dumb but like I said they cant pin point everone.

macdad- · « **Reply #18 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:21:23 PM »

Quote from: Computer Hope Admin on July 03, 2008, 08:58:05 PM

I totally disagree with Google just giving away ALL users viewing information it's a huge privacy issue.

i argree with you 100% especially if the give away the IP address that could let Viacom send us crap and viruses or even get stuff off of our computer, even if those lawyers "guard" the info, somebody could get it then we could have a massive viruses epidemic with thousands of people getting viruses, if that happeneded then i would email google about it and tell them to sue Viacom. i have a Youtube account and i tell you i dont upload copyrighted stuff without permission.

squall_01 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:24:10 PM »

Thats what I'm saing.

Computer Hope Admin · « **Reply #20 on:** July 09, 2008, 02:34:26 AM »

Angry YouTube users boycott, Viacom seems to respond

Enraged YouTube users are protesting a controversial court ruling last week by uploading homemade "Viacom sucks" videos, and calling for mass boycotts of Viacom entertainment vehicles such as Paramount Pictures and MTV.

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BC_Programmer · « **Reply #21 on:** July 09, 2008, 03:44:38 PM »

Quote from: Computer Hope Admin on July 09, 2008, 02:34:26 AM

Angry YouTube users boycott, Viacom seems to respond

...and calling for mass boycotts of Viacom entertainment vehicles such as Paramount Pictures and MTV.

Wow, considering the main demographic of youTube users, that won't last long.

squall_01 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 09, 2008, 04:15:44 PM »

I wasnt thinking exatly that but there are some people who are going to disagree an there going to have to let them.

macdad- · « **Reply #23 on:** July 09, 2008, 05:04:21 PM »

well i just disagree that viacom is getting the info on users ip addresses, now i can see why the want to delete the copyright crap off of yt but they shouldnt ban or delete user's accounts by just watching copyrighted stuff on youtube especially if there watching it from a user who got copyright permissions.

!~:.Pink Floyd.:~! · « **Reply #24 on:** July 15, 2008, 12:08:32 PM »

so is it a good thing that my Ip changes every day?

computeruler · « **Reply #25 on:** July 15, 2008, 12:20:17 PM »

and why does it do that?

Computer Hope Admin · « **Reply #26 on:** July 15, 2008, 04:40:31 PM »

Google Inc. and Viacom Inc. have agreed to allow Google to anonymize YouTube visitor data before complying with a judge's order to deliver the data to Viacom as part of a broader copyright lawsuit.

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!~:.Pink Floyd.:~! · « **Reply #27 on:** July 16, 2008, 08:30:06 AM »

Quote from: computeruler on July 15, 2008, 12:20:17 PM

and why does it do that?

I dunno..... Ive been trying to figure that out to everyone in my area has the same problem

Calum · « **Reply #28 on:** July 16, 2008, 08:32:05 AM »

It's called a dynamic IP.
Some ISPs assign static ones, others dynamic.
Mine is reassigned every time I connect, so if I should wish to change my IP I just reset my router.

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so is it a good thing that my Ip changes every day?

That depends on whether you want it to or not.

DaveLembke · « **Reply #29 on:** July 16, 2008, 12:33:07 PM »

Unless you are wardriving on some one elses connection, the dynamic IP still references to your modems MAC Address in ARP with the ISP, so no matter how many times your change it, your ISP still tracks and ( allows internet ) via the MAC address reference. If you change your modem or MAC address by hacking the modem if the modem allows for cloning MACs or alteration, you will lose your internet until your ISP references the MAC to your account.

If you are a wardriver or internet cafe squatter.... it can only be tracked to the cafe's or parasite wardriving access. Only way to be annonymous then is to keep changing your MAC address in your laptop so that logs at the cafe's dont show your trail.

Best of all its best to be legal and avoid the sneakyness that can land your *censored* in a lot of trouble. IF they want to find you, they have ways of doing it no matter how well you cover your tracks, so its not worth it. The best hackers out there use annonymizers to avoid being tracked down the best that they can, and some even move to different hardware frequently to avoid being tracked at a lower hardware level.

For me personally I know of ways to be annonymous, but would never do anything to get into trouble... """ITS NOT WORTH IT"""

macdad- · « **Reply #30 on:** July 16, 2008, 03:50:31 PM »

and besides if you try to hack your modem, then you'll void the warranty.

computeruler · « **Reply #31 on:** July 16, 2008, 05:39:14 PM »

and get your service cut off there were accually about 8 people in ohio who got arrested for this usually that doesnt happen though

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #32 on:** July 17, 2008, 11:31:50 AM »

Quote from: DaveLembke on July 16, 2008, 12:33:07 PM

you will lose your internet until your ISP references the MAC to your account.

Quote from: computeruler on July 16, 2008, 05:39:14 PM

and get your service cut off

that's what he just said...

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