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    i can't log onto Windows
    « on: April 05, 2009, 05:28:25 PM »
    check this  out :

    http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i56/bAbicz_2006/DSCN4483.jpg
    http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i56/bAbicz_2006/DSCN4482.jpg

    and almost every time i turn on my computer it starts a weird disk check which takes forever
    and half the time after i log on, instead of the above images, the evil blue screen will pop up and say that Windows encountered an error and must close, and starts a dump of physical memory

    anybody have any idea what the problem might be? thanks a lot for any help!!!
    let me know if any more information is needed :)
    -Alex
    « Last Edit: April 05, 2009, 08:18:21 PM by patio »

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    Re: i can't log onto Windows
    « Reply #1 on: April 05, 2009, 05:43:51 PM »
    Try this:
    Unplug ALL USB things.
    Start up the PC and tap on the F8 key.
    Boot into save modem if you can.

    It maybe your HDD is failing.
    Can you borrow or buy another?
    Do you have the original install CD? You may need it.

    What model is you Dell desktop? How old is it?

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      Re: i can't log onto Windows
      « Reply #2 on: April 05, 2009, 08:05:37 PM »
      idk what save modem is :/

      my comp is a 3+ year old (LOL) Dell Inspiron 1300 (a laptop), XP Home SP2

      yes i thought either dying hard drive or virus/malware/spyware, etc., just wanted to ask around a make sure, ya know?

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      Re: i can't log onto Windows
      « Reply #3 on: April 05, 2009, 08:07:02 PM »
      Can you boot into Safe Mode?

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        Re: i can't log onto Windows
        « Reply #4 on: April 05, 2009, 08:11:57 PM »
        Siema  ;D

        tak moge, but only after i do a repair install
        then, if i shut down, and then turn back on to log on again, the same problems occur, and i must do the whole repair install process over again to be able to get into an account

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        Re: i can't log onto Windows
        « Reply #5 on: April 05, 2009, 08:16:53 PM »
        Tak moge?.....LOL

        What kind of repair are you talking about?

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          Re: i can't log onto Windows
          « Reply #6 on: April 05, 2009, 08:19:28 PM »
          repair install
          u put in the XP disk and when it prompts u what u want to do, u hit ENTER to continue the process...do u know what i'm talking about

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          Re: i can't log onto Windows
          « Reply #7 on: April 05, 2009, 08:32:34 PM »
          If repair fix the things, and everything goes bad again after restart, I'd...
          Run hard drive diagnostics: http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=287

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            Re: i can't log onto Windows
            « Reply #8 on: April 05, 2009, 08:35:46 PM »
            but i can't log on to an account...

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            Re: i can't log onto Windows
            « Reply #9 on: April 05, 2009, 08:49:39 PM »
            You don't have to. The programs from the link, I provided will create bootable CD.

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              Re: i can't log onto Windows
              « Reply #10 on: April 05, 2009, 08:52:21 PM »
              and i pop the CD in and i'm good to go?

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              Re: i can't log onto Windows
              « Reply #11 on: April 05, 2009, 08:55:59 PM »
              Basically.
              You need to know, what is the manufacturer of your drive, first.
              Go to Device Manager (while in Safe Mode), and see, what it says under Disk Drives
              Let me know, and we'll go from there.

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                Re: i can't log onto Windows
                « Reply #12 on: April 05, 2009, 08:57:43 PM »
                i'm pretty sure it's Fujitsu

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                Re: i can't log onto Windows
                « Reply #13 on: April 05, 2009, 09:03:23 PM »
                Now, you need to know, if it's SCSI, or IDE drive (two different tools). Device Manager should tell you.

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                  Re: i can't log onto Windows
                  « Reply #14 on: April 05, 2009, 09:07:50 PM »
                  hm i don't know
                  and again, i'm not logged in...
                  can't i just make 2 discs and see which one works?

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                  Re: i can't log onto Windows
                  « Reply #15 on: April 05, 2009, 09:27:01 PM »
                  Actually, I just read all info, and only first tool can be run from bootable floppy, and the other one ([SDIAG] SCSI Diagnostic Tool ) has to be run from within Windows.
                  I propose, you first try Hitachi tool (Drive Fitness Test): Download Drive Fitness Test Windows Diskette Creator v4.15 b01 (12.16.2008) (Direct Link)
                  It will create bootable floppy.
                  You can create the floppy on another computer.
                  Put the floppy into bad computer, and restart it.

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                    Re: i can't log onto Windows
                    « Reply #16 on: April 06, 2009, 09:05:06 PM »
                    an error popped up while loading the program on my bad computer :/

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                    Re: i can't log onto Windows
                    « Reply #17 on: April 06, 2009, 09:08:10 PM »
                    ...and it said?

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                      Re: i can't log onto Windows
                      « Reply #18 on: April 06, 2009, 09:14:52 PM »
                      for the Drive Fitness Test Windows Diskette Creator v4.15 b01 , i ran it on my other computer and it said that there was no floppy available...
                      by floppy do u mean disc? cuz the bad computer is a laptop...

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                      Re: i can't log onto Windows
                      « Reply #19 on: April 06, 2009, 09:18:54 PM »
                      You have to boot from that floppy disk.
                      You put the disk in, and you restart computer.

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                        Re: i can't log onto Windows
                        « Reply #20 on: April 06, 2009, 09:23:58 PM »
                        i just save that file on the disk?

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                        Re: i can't log onto Windows
                        « Reply #21 on: April 06, 2009, 09:27:27 PM »
                        OK. Do you have floppy drives on both computers? Bad one, and good one?
                        If so, when you run Drive Fitness Test Windows Diskette Creator, it'll ask you to insert floppy disk to create bootable floppy.

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                          Re: i can't log onto Windows
                          « Reply #22 on: April 06, 2009, 09:27:58 PM »
                          got it

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                          Re: i can't log onto Windows
                          « Reply #23 on: April 06, 2009, 09:29:48 PM »
                          Cool :)

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                            Re: i can't log onto Windows
                            « Reply #24 on: April 06, 2009, 09:30:36 PM »
                            it says:
                            Device driver error!

                            Cannot create target diskette.

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                            Re: i can't log onto Windows
                            « Reply #25 on: April 06, 2009, 09:39:11 PM »
                            It may be something wrong with floppy drive, then.
                            Let's try to create bootable CD, then.
                            Use 3rd Hitachi link: Drive Fitness Test v4.15 b01 (12.16.2008) - CD Image
                            You have to burn downloaded dft32_v415_b01.iso file to blank CD.
                            To do so...
                            Download, and install free Imgburn: http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
                            Using Imgburn, burn dft32_v415_b01.iso to a CD on good computer
                            Boot the bad computer to the CD...let it finish loading.

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                              Re: i can't log onto Windows
                              « Reply #26 on: April 06, 2009, 09:45:54 PM »
                              ok thank u
                              i'll try that tomorrow, going to bed now :P

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                              Re: i can't log onto Windows
                              « Reply #27 on: April 06, 2009, 09:49:23 PM »
                              No sweat :)

                              P. S. Do you speak Polish?

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                                Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                « Reply #28 on: April 06, 2009, 09:58:46 PM »
                                tak ja mowiem y piszem ale nie tak dobze :S

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                                Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                « Reply #29 on: April 06, 2009, 10:16:17 PM »
                                Nieźle :)
                                Born in US?

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                                  Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                  « Reply #30 on: April 07, 2009, 08:07:45 AM »
                                  Niezle = not bad? :)
                                  born in UK :D
                                  live in US :S

                                  BREAKING NEWS:
                                  i am logged in Safe Mode with networking and typing this message
                                  i was actually able to log off and then back on again (in Safe Mode) with no problems!

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                                  Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                  « Reply #31 on: April 07, 2009, 04:58:59 PM »
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                                  Niezle = not bad?
                                  That's it :)

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                                  i am logged in Safe Mode with networking and typing this message
                                  i was actually able to log off and then back on again (in Safe Mode) with no problems!
                                  Is this after running HD test, or....?

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                                    Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                    « Reply #32 on: April 07, 2009, 05:16:37 PM »
                                    i had done a repair install, and now i can log in using Safe Mode

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                                      « Reply #33 on: April 07, 2009, 06:19:44 PM »
                                      ok i ran the drive scanner, and nothing bad came up
                                      i did an advanced scan and also the quick scan
                                      afterwards, i clicked on Drive info, and the S.M.A.R.T. status said GOOD and everything else seemed to look ok

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                                      Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                      « Reply #34 on: April 07, 2009, 06:23:52 PM »
                                      Did you run HD diagnostic?

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                                        Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                        « Reply #35 on: April 07, 2009, 06:38:05 PM »
                                        yes i made a disk and booted my bad computer with it

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                                        « Reply #36 on: April 07, 2009, 06:39:17 PM »
                                        Did it run? Did it find any errors?

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                                          « Reply #37 on: April 07, 2009, 06:40:51 PM »
                                          like i said, nothing popped up
                                          yes i did the scan and everything

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                                          Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                          « Reply #38 on: April 07, 2009, 06:47:02 PM »
                                          While in Safe Mode....

                                          Go Start>Run (Start Search in Vista), type in:
                                          msconfig
                                          Click OK (hit Enter in Vista).

                                          Click on Startup tab.
                                          Click Disable all

                                          Click Services tab.
                                          Put checkmark in Hide all Microsoft services
                                          Click Disable all.

                                          Click OK.
                                          Restart computer in Normal Mode.

                                          NOTE. If you use different firewall, than Windows firewall, turn Windows firewall on, just for this test, since your regular firewall won't be running.
                                          If you use Windows firewall, you're fine.

                                          Were you able to boot into Normal Mode?

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                                            Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                            « Reply #39 on: April 07, 2009, 08:06:07 PM »
                                            did not work :(
                                            the same problems occurred, and i had to do the repair install
                                            but at least now i'm back on the computer

                                            ok i'm pretty certain that degragging my computer really messed it up
                                            it makes sense that files are missing or not found, and it can't load my accounts in normal mode

                                            is there any way to be certain of this? can i somehow undo a defrag?

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                                            Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                            « Reply #40 on: April 07, 2009, 08:10:17 PM »
                                            Defragging is highly unlikely reason for any computer problem.

                                            Go Start>Run ("Start Search" in Vista), type in:
                                            sfc /scannow
                                            Click OK (hit Enter in Vista).
                                            Have Windows CD/DVD handy.
                                            If System File Checker (sfc) will find any errors, it may ask you for the CD/DVD.
                                            If sfc won't find any errors in Windows XP, it'll simply quit, without any message.
                                            In Vista you will receive the following message: "Windows resource protection did not find any integrity violations".

                                            For Vista users ONLY: Navigate to C:\Windows\Logs\CBS folder. You'll see CBS.log file.
                                            Usually, it's pretty big file, so upload it here: http://www.flyupload.com/, and post download link.


                                            If you don't have Windows CD....
                                            (this applies mostly to Windows XP, since Vista rarely requires use of its DVD while running "sfc")
                                            Note This method will not necessarily work as well, as when using Windows CD, because not always ALL system files are backed up on your hard drive. Also, backed up files may be corrupted as well.

                                            Go Start>Run, type in:
                                            regedit
                                            Click OK.

                                            Navigate to the following key:

                                            HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup

                                            You will see various entries (Values) on the right hand side.

                                            The one we want is called: SourcePath

                                            It probably has an entry pointing to your CD-ROM drive,(usually D:) and that is why it is asking for the XP CD. All we need to do is change it to: C:
                                            Now, double click the SourcePatch setting and a new box will pop up.
                                            Change the drive letter from your CD drive to your root drive, usually C:
                                            Close Registry Editor.

                                            Now restart your computer and try sfc /scannow again!

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                                              Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                              « Reply #41 on: April 07, 2009, 08:14:10 PM »
                                              it only flashes the command box very quickly
                                              nothing happens

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                                              Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                              « Reply #42 on: April 07, 2009, 08:17:28 PM »

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                                                « Reply #43 on: April 07, 2009, 08:21:12 PM »
                                                umm i'm pretty sure i just did that
                                                i've been doing that this whole time just to be able to log on to Windows

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                                                Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                                « Reply #44 on: April 07, 2009, 08:34:11 PM »
                                                I guess, your last option is to backup your data, and go for clean install, then.

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                                                  « Reply #45 on: April 07, 2009, 08:41:30 PM »
                                                  yes
                                                  i'm still waiting back from ppl on other forums for advice
                                                  but sounds like that's all i got now
                                                  3+ years man, it's about time i clean it up :)

                                                  what are the chances i got a virus? cuz i don't want to back up on my external hard drive and spread it to other information

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                                                  Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                                  « Reply #46 on: April 07, 2009, 08:55:28 PM »
                                                  Can you boot to Normal Mode at all?

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                                                    « Reply #47 on: April 07, 2009, 09:10:18 PM »
                                                    nope; not since these problems have started

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                                                    Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                                    « Reply #48 on: April 07, 2009, 09:12:39 PM »
                                                    From Safe Mode with Networking....

                                                    Download HijackThis:
                                                    http://www.trendsecure.com/portal/en-US/tools/security_tools/hijackthis/download
                                                    by clicking on Download HijackThis Installer
                                                    Install, and run it.
                                                    Post HijackTHis log.

                                                    NOTE. If you're using Vista, right click on HijackThis, and click Run as Administrator

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                                                      « Reply #49 on: April 07, 2009, 09:17:29 PM »
                                                      here ya go

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                                                      Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                                      « Reply #50 on: April 07, 2009, 09:21:04 PM »
                                                      Yep. Good hint. Your computer is seriously infected.

                                                      Read here: http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,46313.0.html
                                                      Start new topic here: http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/board,7.0.html
                                                      Do NOT post any logs in THIS thread.

                                                      Run whatever you can in Safe Mode from the scans prescribed at the above links.

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                                                        « Reply #51 on: April 07, 2009, 09:28:10 PM »
                                                        well dzieki!
                                                        i'll sort it all out tomorrow probably
                                                        thanks again

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                                                        Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                                        « Reply #52 on: April 07, 2009, 09:36:39 PM »
                                                        Prosze bardzo :)

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                                                          « Reply #53 on: April 07, 2009, 09:41:26 PM »
                                                          :D

                                                          for some reason i can't install SUPERAntiSpywarePro
                                                          it says that it's because i'm in Safe Mode or the windows installer is not correctly installed

                                                          however, i can install other programs

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                                                          Re: i can't log onto Windows
                                                          « Reply #54 on: April 07, 2009, 09:45:43 PM »
                                                          As I said, run whatever you can.