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    Enter exFAT
    « on: May 12, 2009, 11:40:53 AM »
    Microsoft's New file system that can theoretically support up to 16exbi-bytes  :o

    And it is be faster at read/write than the old FAT32.

    This will be used for future Flash cards, the new SanDisk will be SDXC that will have 2TB of storage and a possible 300Mbps transfer rate.

    I wouldn't see this used in cameras(or even phones) for a good few years.

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    Re: Enter exFAT
    « Reply #1 on: May 12, 2009, 11:51:15 AM »
    what do you mean, "will"

    it already exists...
    I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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    Re: Enter exFAT
    « Reply #2 on: May 12, 2009, 02:00:06 PM »
    How can it be new if I read about in February 2008?

    Actually, the link is about a "new" (January 2009) memory card format (SDXC) which uses Microsoft's "new" (January 2008) exFAT file system. There's no word on when SDXC-compatible devices and cards will go on sale.



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      « Reply #3 on: May 12, 2009, 04:45:53 PM »
      Wow....time sure flies...Sorry, correcting.

      Just wanted to share it with you guys...
      If you dont know DOS, you dont know Windows...

      Thats why Bill Gates created the Windows NT Family.

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      Re: Enter exFAT
      « Reply #4 on: May 12, 2009, 06:35:35 PM »
      Wow...more space than my computer...*censored*. :'( :'( :'( :-\ :o :( :-[ :P
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        « Reply #5 on: May 12, 2009, 07:38:58 PM »
        I know, I was kinda blown away from it, but I really dont see this reaching consumers for a good number of years, would be very expensive  ;)
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        Thats why Bill Gates created the Windows NT Family.

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        Re: Enter exFAT
        « Reply #6 on: May 14, 2009, 06:00:06 AM »
        I know, I was kinda blown away from it, but I really dont see this reaching consumers for a good number of years, would be very expensive  ;)
        But I mean, some iPods have more space than my computer...some have over 3 times the total space.
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          « Reply #7 on: May 14, 2009, 04:53:40 PM »
          But I mean, some iPods have more space than my computer...some have over 3 times the total space.

          Thats why they should make Ipod's more hackable(with say ILinux)
          If you dont know DOS, you dont know Windows...

          Thats why Bill Gates created the Windows NT Family.

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          Re: Enter exFAT
          « Reply #8 on: May 15, 2009, 05:35:48 PM »
          Thats why they should make Ipod's more hackable(with say ILinux)
          lol...like Pandora-ing a PSP.
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            « Reply #9 on: May 16, 2009, 05:30:13 PM »
            lol, or even put Win 3.1 on SNES(I gotta try that)  ;D
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            Re: Enter exFAT
            « Reply #10 on: May 16, 2009, 06:51:50 PM »
            lol, or even put Win 3.1 on SNES(I gotta try that)  ;D
            Really? That I have to see.
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            Re: Enter exFAT
            « Reply #11 on: May 16, 2009, 10:42:37 PM »
            if you guys knew a *censored* thing about the SNES you would know that that would never work.
            I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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            Re: Enter exFAT
            « Reply #12 on: May 17, 2009, 10:43:26 AM »
            if you guys knew a <censored> thing about the SNES you would know that that would never work.
            I have a regular NES, but I doubt it would work on that... :'(
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            Re: Enter exFAT
            « Reply #13 on: May 17, 2009, 11:37:53 AM »
            ...

            sigh. the SNES is NOT a PC. the hardware and software specifications are completely different from any other system.

            Besides- windows 3.1 requires DOS, DOS is an operating system, and the SNES works directly OFF of ROM, so it doesn't HAVE a boot cycle to ANY OS. Same story for NES as far as running off of ROM.

            So, you consider, "well, we can try to adapt windows to run in ROM" Not a feasible solution; windows, and DOS, in general assume that people have some form of disk drive. the only way to facilitate that would be through SRAM. except that even the largest SRAM chips generally hold less then 80KB- usually only 16KB.

            Even so, DOS would need to be completely rewritten in order to even run on an SNES; since the SNES has a completely different set of specifications, including endian format as well as memory layout (and in the case of the NES bank mappings) Unfortunately the DOS source code isn't exactly available, and even if it was over 50% of it is assembly and difficult to either understand, and in the case it is understood, change.
            I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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            Re: Enter exFAT
            « Reply #14 on: May 17, 2009, 11:45:24 AM »
            Helpmeh "censors" the word "*censored*"?  ::)

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            Re: Enter exFAT
            « Reply #15 on: May 17, 2009, 11:49:41 AM »
            Actually, I think that the forum does. It does it to me sometimes when I quote certain words.
            I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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            Re: Enter exFAT
            « Reply #16 on: May 17, 2009, 12:09:44 PM »
            Actually, I think that the forum does. It does it to me sometimes when I quote certain words.
            Strange...it just removed the word in the post, but <censor>s the word in quotes...
            Where's MagicSpeed?
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            Re: Enter exFAT
            « Reply #17 on: May 17, 2009, 12:26:34 PM »
            Do I give a bloody *censored*?

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            « Reply #18 on: May 17, 2009, 12:26:59 PM »
            Do I give a bloody *censored*?


            I can see both "rude"  ::) words both in the first post and in the quote.


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            Re: Enter exFAT
            « Reply #19 on: May 17, 2009, 01:01:12 PM »
            I can see both "rude"  ::) words both in the first post and in the quote.


            I don't see either in either.
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            « Reply #20 on: May 17, 2009, 01:03:19 PM »
            I don't see either in either.

            You must have the American profanity filter activated.

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            Re: Enter exFAT
            « Reply #21 on: May 17, 2009, 01:40:00 PM »
            You must have the American profanity filter activated.

            The what? Is it a forum thing that I can disable or what?

            Edit: Just disabled it...now I can see the word *censored*...was there another word? Because I could always see bloody...(how is that profanity, it's just an adjective describing something covered in blood?!)
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            « Reply #22 on: May 17, 2009, 01:49:24 PM »
            The what? Is it a forum thing that I can disable or what?

            Edit: Just disabled it...now I can see the word *censored*...was there another word? Because I could always see bloody...(how is that profanity, it's just an adjective describing something covered in blood?!)

            I my country "bloody" is a mild swear word. Ever heard of England?

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            Re: Enter exFAT
            « Reply #23 on: May 17, 2009, 01:50:37 PM »
            I my country "bloody" is a mild swear word. Ever heard of England?

            Nope. Is it somewhere near Atlantis?
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              « Reply #24 on: May 17, 2009, 04:16:27 PM »
              if you guys knew a *censored* thing about the SNES you would know that that would never work.

              Not if you know SNES ASM  ;)
              And besides, I'm not converting the code, I mean writting it from scratch.

              It would be hard, but it is very possible, just would cut out alot of features on it, except for the mouse of course  ;)
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              Re: Enter exFAT
              « Reply #25 on: May 17, 2009, 04:50:12 PM »
               ::)

              rewriting windows for the SNES? you say that like it's something trivial. It's not exactly a piece of cake to rewrite windows for x86, let along a large-endian motorola chip.
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              Re: Enter exFAT
              « Reply #26 on: May 17, 2009, 05:22:36 PM »
              *censored*.
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              Re: Enter exFAT
              « Reply #27 on: May 17, 2009, 05:23:44 PM »
              *ahem* I mean, hey, I wonder if somebody can make a SNES modification to use an exFAT based SRAM saving module?


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              Re: Enter exFAT
              « Reply #28 on: May 17, 2009, 05:53:28 PM »
              22 months...
              Is this a paying Gig ? ?

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                « Reply #29 on: May 18, 2009, 06:11:44 AM »
                ::)

                rewriting windows for the SNES? you say that like it's something trivial. It's not exactly a piece of cake to rewrite windows for x86, let along a large-endian motorola chip.

                I just ment writting the code for just the desktop first, now that wouldn't be so trivial if you used SNESC  ;)

                *ahem* I mean, hey, I wonder if somebody can make a SNES modification to use an exFAT based SRAM saving module?

                Perhaps, depeding upon the pin-out if the SRAM chip, and you would have to disable the SNES lock-out chip...but anywho back on topic...
                If you dont know DOS, you dont know Windows...

                Thats why Bill Gates created the Windows NT Family.