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zhuge455

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    ping issue
    « on: May 13, 2009, 08:26:45 AM »
      is it just me or is my ping very bad <>

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    Re: ping issue
    « Reply #1 on: May 13, 2009, 08:29:21 AM »
    Is that a joke?

    zhuge455

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      Re: ping issue
      « Reply #2 on: May 13, 2009, 08:30:41 AM »
      no well i am on a college campus and recently my ping has been acting up alot i cant ping anyone via hamachi (it keeps on in both cases coming up with request timed out) but then some of them do work ...and i cant ping microsoft.com/ sun.com too. well if this doesnt help i think i may have to reinstall vista then

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      Re: ping issue
      « Reply #3 on: May 13, 2009, 08:32:10 AM »
      Your speedtest shows 6ms. That is better than good.

      Can you go to www.microsoft.com?

      zhuge455

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        Re: ping issue
        « Reply #4 on: May 13, 2009, 08:35:48 AM »
        yes i can but the issue is that i cant ping it at all (request timed out) but i thought it was a virus and did several checks and came up with nothing
        another side note, when tracing the ping route it looks like its blocked

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        Re: ping issue
        « Reply #5 on: May 13, 2009, 08:41:02 AM »
        Not sure why, I'm looking into it, but I can't ping www.microsoft.com either. Hmmmm....

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          Re: ping issue
          « Reply #6 on: May 13, 2009, 08:43:34 AM »
          should i post the ipconfig stuff if needed? because that may answer some questions

          now come to think of it
          i can ping people that are close to me ie people on east coast of us and some people in asia but i cant ping anyone in europe , canada (mostly) and the west coast

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          Re: ping issue
          « Reply #7 on: May 13, 2009, 08:46:01 AM »
          Pings only "work" if the computer at the other responds to ICMP echo response packets.  Many don't.  On an Windows 2000 (or better) machine, try using the tracert tool instead.
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          Re: ping issue
          « Reply #8 on: May 13, 2009, 08:47:50 AM »
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          should i post the ipconfig stuff if needed? because that may answer some questions
          It won't be necessary. I cannot ping microsoft.com or sun.com either.

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          now come to think of it
          i can ping people that are close to me ie people on east coast of us and some people in asia but i cant ping anyone in europe , canada (mostly) and the west coast
          Latency maybe?

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            Re: ping issue
            « Reply #9 on: May 13, 2009, 08:50:54 AM »
            hmm but how do i change that (not sure really <>)
            and i noticed recently this all started when i had network issues a week back after doing the windows update

            well heres the 2 cases one that worked using the tracert command aC:\Users\Eric>tracert 5.87.33.39

            C:\Users\Eric>tracert 5.87.33.39

            Tracing route to CODY [5.87.33.39]
            over a maximum of 30 hops:

              1    57 ms    57 ms    55 ms  CODY [5.87.33.39]

            Trace complete.

            C:\Users\Eric>tracert 5.197.234.136

            Tracing route to 5.197.234.136 over a maximum of 30 hops

              1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
              2     *        *        *     Request timed out.nd one which d

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            Re: ping issue
            « Reply #10 on: May 13, 2009, 08:52:25 AM »
            Change what?

            If it makes you feel any better, none of my computers can ping www.microsoft.com. It's not a problem with your computer.

            zhuge455

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              Re: ping issue
              « Reply #11 on: May 13, 2009, 08:55:05 AM »
              the latency (prob not because it worked eariler and nothing has changed on the other side (they can still ping me))

              or is it just network issues then <<
              i think i may have found it
              it looks like my subnet mask is messed up sorta.
              when ever i ping that, it comes with error
              Transmit failed, error code 1231
              « Last Edit: May 13, 2009, 09:11:53 AM by zhuge455 »

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              Re: ping issue
              « Reply #12 on: May 13, 2009, 08:58:44 AM »
              Latency is the distance between servers. If you can get closer, the time taken for the packet to be received (ping) will be lower.

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              Re: ping issue
              « Reply #13 on: May 15, 2009, 10:24:25 AM »
              Your in a school and they control your network. Most stop "ping" from working outside of there network. This is why you can ping machines local to you but other places like web sites can't be pinged.

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                Re: ping issue
                « Reply #14 on: May 15, 2009, 12:13:02 PM »
                meh its still like that after i moved back home
                still the same issue again

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                Re: ping issue
                « Reply #15 on: May 15, 2009, 01:10:51 PM »
                When you were at school did they load some software so you could connect to there network....the most popular is put out by CISCO.

                I would say that the software is still on your machine. If you don't plan on going back to school or connecting remotly with some client software than I would look into removing it. If you are going back than leave it alone.

                Ping is no big deal....you don't need it to get on the web.....

                The latency can be from many things....how busy the servers are...how much traffic is on them...how much traffic is on your ISP....etc...

                Whenever I watch TV and I see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean I would love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff." - Mariah Carey, Pop Singer

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                Re: ping issue
                « Reply #16 on: May 15, 2009, 07:45:05 PM »
                Change what?

                If it makes you feel any better, none of my computers can ping www.microsoft.com. It's not a problem with your computer.

                Just wondering if you read that....

                You seemed to be worried about nothing.

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                Re: ping issue
                « Reply #17 on: May 18, 2009, 05:38:16 PM »
                hmmm wierd, I can't ping www.microsoft.com either this is strange

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                Re: ping issue
                « Reply #18 on: May 18, 2009, 08:13:25 PM »
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                This looks like a case of a person who is just starting to learn about computers (or more precisely networking) and will mess around with settings trying to "fix" a non-existent problem, only to make things worse.

                If ping isn't working, it DOESN'T matter! as Rob said, a lot of computers will NOT reply to the ICMP packets. This is the case for most PCs running any sort of firewall.

                By messing around with your network settings in an attempt to fix this "problem" you'll undoubtedly make the problem worse (for example- your internet works now, but change a few settings in an attempt to fix your "ping" issue and suddenly nothing works!)



                regarding microsoft.com- their server simply doesn't respond to pings; It will accept connection requests via HTTP and FTP but will reject any ICMP packets. I imagine this is to reduce server load responding to these pings. A number of other companies web-sites will not respond to pings, either; in fact I cannot even ping some of the other machines on my own network, since they have a firewall that by default rejects ICMP packets.


                why are so many things configured to ignore ICMP packets? quite simple, really- it makes the machine essentially invisible to ping sweeps made by hackers. This is the basic method amateur/wannabe hackers use to scan for their targets. they set up a program to ping a designated set of IP addresses (a certain subnet, perhaps) and then analyze the output to determine which IPs have a computer behind them (the ones that respond); they then perform further checks on each IP to see if it's "hackable" (exploits, backdoors, etc).

                Aside from that- ping traffic can take up a good deal of a server's time if it is set to respond to it, especially for companies such as "microsoft.com" which has been the target of several distributed denial of service attacks via giant bot-net's pinging their server until it is so bogged down dealing with the ICMP traffic it can no longer properly service all the legitimate clients connecting.
                I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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                  Re: ping issue
                  « Reply #19 on: June 15, 2009, 09:16:45 AM »
                  they didn't load any software that i know of but if it has to be i can double check  the odd thing is its hamachi messing up with the ping issue so it could be more related to that :/ (messed up ports/port forwarding?)

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                  Re: ping issue
                  « Reply #20 on: June 15, 2009, 10:46:12 AM »
                  No one can ping microsoft.  I found that out a couple weeks ago.  Its weird.  6ms ping is REALLY good and your worried about nothing so just stop worrying