Author Topic: MS DOS 6.2 Question (Read 11385 times)

Cityscape · « **on:** June 25, 2009, 11:11:35 PM »

Do you know where i can get MS DOS?
I need it for windows 3.1 that i want to install.

Quantos · « **Reply #1 on:** June 25, 2009, 11:25:55 PM »

I did some searching and found something similar. It's called freeDOS.
Also, apparently MS DOS is free now, I'm still trying to find the link for you though.

It's amazing what I can find when someone peaks my curiosity

Quantos · « **Reply #2 on:** June 25, 2009, 11:33:34 PM »

I also found a link to DR-DOS, I wasn't sure if they would still be around or not.

Quantos · « **Reply #3 on:** June 26, 2009, 12:25:22 AM »

I just remembered, if you have Windows 95 or Windows 98 you should be able to extract MS DOS from there.

Cityscape · « **Reply #4 on:** June 26, 2009, 08:57:12 AM »

Quote from: Quantos on June 25, 2009, 11:25:55 PM

I did some searching and found something similar. It's called freeDOS.
Also, apparently MS DOS is free now, I'm still trying to find the link for you though.

It's amazing what I can find when someone peaks my curiosity

I have FreeDos but the problem i belive is that Windows 3.1 must have MS Dos. It is actually legal to use if you own a newer Windows OS is what i heard.

Quote from: Quantos on June 26, 2009, 12:25:22 AM

I just remembered, if you have Windows 95 or Windows 98 you should be able to extract MS DOS from there.

Well i have 98SE, will that work? I think Windows 3.1 needs MS DOS 6.22 or older (as old as 3.0 works).

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #5 on:** June 26, 2009, 09:02:09 AM »

MS-DOS/IBM-DOS 3.1 is the minimum required version for windows 3.1.

It works with PC-DOS 2000 as well as DOS 7.1, too.

Cityscape · « **Reply #6 on:** June 26, 2009, 09:50:02 AM »

Quote from: BC_Programmer link=topic=86311.msg577261#msg577261
It works with PC-DOS 2000 as well as DOS 7.1, too.
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So is MS Dos 7.1 in 98SE? Quantos was saying i could take the DOS from a 95/98 pc...

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #7 on:** June 26, 2009, 10:02:07 AM »

yes, that would be 7.1. I don't know how to "extract" it from windows, but I would imagine it's done by creating a system disk on the windows PC and copying the relevant DOS files, such as fdisk,format, find, etc. as well as performing the SYS command on the other PC's hard drive.

WillyW · « **Reply #8 on:** June 26, 2009, 11:03:08 AM »

Quote from: Cityscape on June 25, 2009, 11:11:35 PM

Do you know where i can get MS DOS?
I need it for windows 3.1 that i want to install.

Perhaps you could purchase a legal copy from someone on eBay.

Quantos · « **Reply #9 on:** June 26, 2009, 03:22:16 PM »

Here's an easier solution. Install Windows 98SE. Then install TweakUI, it can be found on the 98SE disk, or you can search Microsofts site for it.

This utility installs in your Control Panel. After installing it you go to the Control Panel and click on the TweakUI icon. Then click on the Boot tab and change the boot settings any way you want.

Set it to boot without the GUI, reboot and install Windows 3.1.

You owe me

WillyW · « **Reply #10 on:** June 26, 2009, 04:49:28 PM »

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How to Boot to a Command Prompt by Default

This article describes how to configure Windows to boot to a command prompt automatically.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/141721

Quantos · « **Reply #11 on:** June 26, 2009, 04:54:09 PM »

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This article describes how to configure Windows to boot to a command prompt automatically.

TweakUI is a lot easier, and provides more features. Of course on the same note, he will have to get used to doing things in the command line. You can't use DOS without that knowledge.

WillyW · « **Reply #12 on:** June 26, 2009, 05:10:55 PM »

Quote from: Quantos on June 26, 2009, 04:54:09 PM

TweakUI is a lot easier,

Really? I've no idea... never used it.
This way though, no software to install - just edit a file, and you're done. I can't imagine anything easier than that.

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and provides more features. Of course on the same note, he will have to get used to doing things in the command line. You can't use DOS without that knowledge.

Yep.
But Edit is very easy to use.

Heck... I wonder if he could just edit the file with Notepad?

Quantos · « **Reply #13 on:** June 26, 2009, 05:14:19 PM »

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Heck... I wonder if he could just edit the file with Notepad?

To be completely honest I don't remember if Notepad has the priveleges to edit msdos.sys. I would recommend using the command line like the article says though. If Notepad worked I'm sure the guy writing the article would have suggested it.

patio · « **Reply #14 on:** June 26, 2009, 06:20:22 PM »

Win 98SE is DOS 6.2....not DOS 7.1.

Quantos · « **Reply #15 on:** June 26, 2009, 06:28:45 PM »

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Win 98SE is DOS 6.2....not DOS 7.1

Thanks patio. I wasn't sure if I remembered that correctly.

Woodman · « **Reply #16 on:** June 26, 2009, 08:09:39 PM »

Quote from: patio on June 26, 2009, 06:20:22 PM

Win 98SE is DOS 6.2....not DOS 7.1.

I'd like to query that. I have a hazy recollection of what was named Dos 7.1 being distributed on-line having been extracted from Windows 98se by Wengier Wu and his team at the China Dos Union. It's still available for download but from a different source.

The following quote is from this site and clearly mentions Win 95 and Win 98 and Dos 7.0

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There is almost no difference in the relationship between Windows 95/98 and it's hidden DOS 7.0 and Windows 3 and DOS 6

So, is the underlying Dos version in Win 98se version 6.2 or 7.0 or were versions of 98se available with both Dos versions. Would MS have used Dos 6.2 in Win 98se when Dos 7.0 was already in use with Win 95?

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #17 on:** June 26, 2009, 09:22:21 PM »

DOS 6.0 and 6.2 & 6.22 exist standalone. But they cannot possibly be the same version as that included in windows 95/98 because MSDOS.SYS is a binary system file changed to a text configuration file. It stands to reason that not only is this a major change requiring a change in version number but also that windows 95 was released over a year after DOS 6.22 which leads us to conclude that windows 95 comes with DOS 7.0, Windows 98 with 7.1 and windows ME with 7.2.

Cityscape · « **Reply #18 on:** June 26, 2009, 10:51:42 PM »

Quote from: WillyW on June 26, 2009, 11:03:08 AM

Perhaps you could purchase a legal copy from someone on eBay.

Some people on eBay post a picture of a product and just send you a copy.
And any copy of DOS is legal as long as you own a Windows OS.

Quote from: Quantos on June 26, 2009, 03:22:16 PM

Here's an easier solution. Install Windows 98SE. Then install TweakUI, it can be found on the 98SE disk, or you can search Microsofts site for it.

This utility installs in your Control Panel. After installing it you go to the Control Panel and click on the TweakUI icon. Then click on the Boot tab and change the boot settings any way you want.

Set it to boot without the GUI, reboot and install Windows 3.1.

You owe me

But i'd still have the 98SE installed right? Cause i'd prefer no 98SE.

Woodman · « **Reply #19 on:** June 26, 2009, 11:12:12 PM »

Quote from: BC_Programmer on June 26, 2009, 09:22:21 PM

which leads us to conclude that windows 95 comes with DOS 7.0, Windows 98 with 7.1 and windows ME with 7.2.

Thank you BC - I can buy into that.

Edit: Now find that Windows ME has Dos version 8. Quote from Wiki

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Windows XP contains a copy of the core MS-DOS 8 files from Windows Millennium, accessible only by formatting a floppy as an "MS-DOS startup disk". Attempting to run COMMAND.COM from such a disk under the NTVDM results in the message "Incorrect MS-DOS version".[citation needed] (Note that the DOS boot disk created by Windows XP is even more stripped-down than that created in Windows 98, as it does not include CD-ROM support.)

With Windows Vista the files on the startup disk are dated 18th April 2005 but are otherwise unchanged, including the string "MS-DOS Version 8 (C) Copyright 1981-1999 Microsoft Corp" inside COMMAND.COM.

Quantos · « **Reply #20 on:** June 27, 2009, 01:07:08 AM »

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But i'd still have the 98SE installed right? Cause i'd prefer no 98SE.

There's no way around that. Microsoft doesn't have a procedure for extracting DOS which leads me to believe that it would violate the EULA. I'm not about to do that. So you can do as you were advised or not do it at all. Keep in mind there are other versions of DOS which I have provided links to that you can use.

Cityscape · « **Reply #21 on:** June 27, 2009, 10:20:25 AM »

Quote from: Quantos on June 27, 2009, 01:07:08 AM

Keep in mind there are other versions of DOS which I have provided links to that you can use.

They're all free right?

Quantos · « **Reply #22 on:** June 27, 2009, 04:17:29 PM »

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They're all free right?

No, they are protected by the EULA and copyright laws.
You must OWN the license to use them.

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #23 on:** June 28, 2009, 09:33:24 AM »

heh, I still have the "certificate of authenticity" for my DOS 6...

the disks have long since become unusable though. Oh well.

Cityscape · « **Reply #24 on:** June 28, 2009, 10:33:29 AM »

Thanks guys, i've found the Dos i need and it's now running Windows 3.11 which is where i'm writing this from using IE 3.

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #25 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:01:18 AM »

Quote from: Cityscape on June 28, 2009, 10:33:29 AM

Thanks guys, i've found the Dos i need and it's now running Windows 3.11 which is where i'm writing this from using IE 3.

you can get, IE5 on windows 3.1 as well.

Cityscape · « **Reply #26 on:** June 28, 2009, 11:53:29 AM »

I get an error message (attached) when trying IE5.

I don't know how to fix it, i have over 64MB of RAM

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Quantos · « **Reply #27 on:** June 28, 2009, 12:02:24 PM »

Take a look at this, and tell us what you have allocated.

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BC_Programmer · « **Reply #28 on:** June 28, 2009, 12:22:20 PM »

Quote from: Cityscape on June 28, 2009, 11:53:29 AM

I get an error message (attached) when trying IE5.

I don't know how to fix it, i have over 64MB of RAM

Do as quantos suggested- you have Too much allocated. I got this error too. But unlike you I was on a real PC, and the smallest DIMM I had was 128MB

patio · « **Reply #29 on:** June 28, 2009, 12:39:53 PM »

Also repost your autoexec ang config since we've altered them...

Cityscape · « **Reply #30 on:** June 28, 2009, 02:12:37 PM »

Okay, i've attached a screenshot of the memory settings window.

As well as my most recent autoexec.bat ang config.sys files.

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BC_Programmer · « **Reply #31 on:** June 28, 2009, 02:36:50 PM »

Reduce your RAM from 128MB.

For windows 3.1? heck, 32 MB is MORE then enough.

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