Is this a good PC to build?

[neelchauhan]

UPDATED VERSION: http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,89861.0/viewResults.html

[2x3i5x]

what do you want to do on this computer most?

Also ...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125260 --> $59.99 Nvidia 9500GT wit the DDR3 memory and factory overclock so you get some more performance for same price (before any mail in rebate) out of what otherwise would be same card even though different manufacturer.

[Quantos]

what do you want to do on this computer most?

Also ...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125260 --> $59.99 Nvidia 9500GT wit the DDR3 memory and factory overclock so you get some more performance for same price (before any mail in rebate) out of what otherwise would be same card even though different manufacturer.

Since when is OC a good idea or solution?

[computeruler]

And why do you need 2 dvd drives and that nic?  The motherboard comes with one.  What are you doing with your computer?

[BC_Programmer]

Since when is OC a good idea or solution?

when it's supported by the manufacturer, and thus covered by their warranty.

my video card is factory Overclocked, actually, and I haven't had any problems (well, aside from when the fan failed and I underclocked it back to the standard speed for the chip... and the nback again after finding out the fan was broken and replacing it), and another time after about 2 weeks straight uptime (starting/stopping Direct3d, openGL, as I played games and such) it crashed spectacularly... other then that it's been a solid card.

Now, if they recommended overclocking a card manually(that is,a cheaper card and overclocking past the factory preset), then I would have to agree.

[Quantos]

Even if it's recommended by the manufacturer I shudder.

Extra heat, never good.

[2x3i5x]

I have that exact Nvidia 9500GT that I listed in that newegg link except it has only a regular fan (not a zalman one like the picture from newegg link I listed shows)  but I have never seen the GPU temperature go any higher than 50 degrees C, that reading coming from the GPU-Z utility. And no problems so far anyway....

But, manufacturer overclocking, it's safe and risk free since it's done by the professionals!

[Quantos]

I would still not want to OC.

You may not have an issue with it, but different issues cause issues.

[2x3i5x]

that's all fine too, if that's how you think, nothing wrong with it. But I'd have the OC'd version any day as long as  the OC has been done by the card repected card maker and it's them doing it for me with warranty if there's anything wrong. I'm just trying to get my money's worth 

[BC_Programmer]

actually, come to think if it, this card is the only thing I've ever had overclocked. I considered Overclocking my K6-2, but it was running hot as it was.

[Quantos]

If I wanted my moneys worth, I'd just buy a better card.

Yes, it is my opinion, but how many problems would be solved if there was no OC?

[2x3i5x]

but I never had problems with the OC so I can't say 

[BC_Programmer]

OC-ing causes a lot of reliability issues, if done wrong, or too much... and in either case it reduces the life of the component being overclocked, there is no disputing that.

I can see it being used to extend the life of an old computer, but what I don't like, is when the first thing people do after they make a new build is overclock the components. And then they wonder why everything is so unstable...

[2x3i5x]

but I mean, the professionals are doing it so they would know what's good and what's bad in terms of stability, and heat and all that. That's all I meant.

anyway, , let's get back on topic of helping out neelchauhan with his pc build 

[Quantos]

No, the professionals don't always know what they are doing.  Look at Bill Gates crashing in a conference.

I don't trust OC at ALL, EVER.  I am assisting with the build, DON'T EVER OC.