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    DOS based windows
    « on: September 22, 2009, 12:40:00 PM »
    I just found out that Windows 98 has to be installed in DOS but Windows 98 SE can be installed without booting from DOS.  Am I right to assume that that would make Windows 98 the last DOS based Windows?
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    Re: DOS based windows
    « Reply #1 on: September 22, 2009, 12:43:31 PM »
    No. Windows 98SE was DOS based.

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    Re: DOS based windows
    « Reply #2 on: September 22, 2009, 12:50:04 PM »
    So was ME

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    « Reply #3 on: September 22, 2009, 12:59:00 PM »
    Right. XP was the first MS OS not built on a DOS kernel.

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    « Reply #4 on: September 22, 2009, 01:02:15 PM »
    Right. XP was the first MS OS not built on a DOS kernel.

    No; that was NT 3.1

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    Re: DOS based windows
    « Reply #5 on: September 22, 2009, 01:02:58 PM »
    I don't think that's what Amats meant. Technical xp, vista, and win7 are all based on dos. I think he meant something like weather or not 98 was the last windows that relied on dos for so much that it had to be installed with it.
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    « Reply #6 on: September 22, 2009, 01:06:32 PM »
    I don't think that's what Amats meant. Technical xp, vista, and win7 are all based on dos. I think he meant something like weather or not 98 was the last windows that relied on dos for so much that it had to be installed with it.
    What? Neither XP, Vista, nor 7 are "based on dos". They are all built on an NT kernel.

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    « Reply #7 on: September 22, 2009, 01:07:04 PM »
    EDIT - Double post.
    « Last Edit: September 22, 2009, 01:21:03 PM by Allan »

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    « Reply #8 on: September 22, 2009, 01:09:38 PM »
    Why did you quot yourself?
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    Re: DOS based windows
    « Reply #9 on: September 22, 2009, 01:20:43 PM »
    Inadvertent double post. I'm going to delete the quote in the second post - sorry for the confusion.

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    Re: DOS based windows
    « Reply #10 on: September 22, 2009, 01:32:04 PM »
    What? Neither XP, Vista, nor 7 are "based on dos". They are all built on an NT kernel.

    Neither...nor only applies to 2 things. You forgot Windows 2000? You ignored my remark about NT 3.1 being the "first MS operating system not based on DOS".

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    NT 5.2 Windows Server 2003
    NT 5.2 Windows Home Server
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      Re: DOS based windows
      « Reply #11 on: September 22, 2009, 01:44:54 PM »
      Basically I was just wondering, at what point did Windows require special installation procedures to install DOS games?  I have several fairly new computers which either they are a pain to install and don't always reliably play or my newest one they won't install at all.  Im looking around for a 486 computer to put on an old DOS version of windows because they played well on it.
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      « Reply #12 on: September 22, 2009, 01:47:16 PM »
      Dos is at the core of all windows. Dos uses many files to run the os and if you don't have dos then you don't have a running os. If windoows did not need dos to run then it would not be built in and then many of the people on this forum would not be on this forum because there would be no need to talk about something that was not even being used.
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      « Reply #13 on: September 22, 2009, 01:50:25 PM »
      Dos is at the core of all windows. Dos uses many files to run the os and if you don't have dos then you don't have a running os. If windoows did not need dos to run then it would not be built in and then many of the people on this forum would not be on this forum because there would be no need to talk about something that was not even being used.
      You are mistaken. As I said above - XP, Vista, and Windows 7 do not even contain dos, let alone being built on it.

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      « Reply #14 on: September 22, 2009, 01:51:48 PM »
      Dos is at the core of all windows.

      Not true. See above  ::)


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      Dos uses many files to run the os and if you don't have dos then you don't have a running os.

      This is nonsense.

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      If windoows did not need dos to run then it would not be built in

      It is not built in.

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      and then many of the people on this forum would not be on this forum because there would be no need to talk about something that was not even being used.

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