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carlosthegreat

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    Another Graphics Card Problem (sorry guys)
    « on: November 29, 2006, 06:47:46 PM »
    Hey.

    I bought quite a few PC games to play over christmas. My PC met the recommended requirements yet all the games were choppy and really really slow. I think it might be my graphics card.... Basically I'm unsure which one I have!



    I ran everest and it came up with what you see above. The numbers and letter also appear in my Device Manager window.

    So basically I'd just like to know
    1) How to nail it down and
    2) if you think this wil stop the choppy graphics

    Thanks in advance, Carlos.
    PC: Packard Bell iMedia 1307
    OS: Windows XP SP2
    CPU: Intel Celeron D 341
    RAM: 1024 MB
    HD: 143 GB
    GPU: nVIDIA FX5200
    APU: Creative SB X-fi Xtrememusic

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    Re: Another Graphics Card Problem (sorry guys)
    « Reply #1 on: November 29, 2006, 06:55:52 PM »
    On board video...post the text ver of Everest and we can give you recommendations on what type of vid card you can add on...
    Check your pocketbook first.
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    Re: Another Graphics Card Problem (sorry guys)
    « Reply #2 on: November 29, 2006, 06:55:55 PM »
    A celeron processor is not meant for any decent games.

    Integrated video is not meant for any decent games.

    That's all I can come up with, as you didn't mention which games.

    Details, details.

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      Re: Another Graphics Card Problem (sorry guys)
      « Reply #3 on: November 29, 2006, 07:34:02 PM »
      Here's the txt version:
      Computer:
            Operating System                                  Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
            OS Service Pack                                   Service Pack 2
            DirectX                                           4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
            Computer Name                                     SN048287520382
            User Name                                        

          Motherboard:
            CPU Type                                          Intel Celeron D 341, 2933 MHz (22 x 133)
            Motherboard Name                                  Unknown
            Motherboard Chipset                               SiS 661FX/GX
            System Memory                                     960 MB  (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
            BIOS Type                                         AMI (07/11/05)
            Communication Port                                Communications Port (COM1)
            Communication Port                                Communications Port (COM2)
            Communication Port                                ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

          Display:
            Video Adapter                                     SiS 651_661FX_741_760_760GX_M661FX_M661MX_M 741_M760_M760GX  (64 MB)
            3D Accelerator                                    SiS 330 Mirage Integrated
            Monitor                                           Philips 170B (170B6)  [17" LCD]  (BZ  410738)

          Multimedia:
            Audio Adapter                                     SiS 7012 Audio Device

          Storage:
            IDE Controller                                    SiS PCI IDE Controller
            Disk Drive                                        ST3160021A  (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
            Optical Drive                                     _NEC DVD_RW ND-3530A  (DVD+R9:8x, DVD+RW:16x/8x, DVD-RW:16x/6x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:48x/32x/48x DVD+RW/DVD-RW)
            SMART Hard Disks Status                           OK

          Partitions:
            C: (NTFS)                                         146467 MB (96580 MB free)

          Input:
            Keyboard                                          Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
            Mouse                                             Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
            Game Controller                                   Microsoft PC-joystick driver

          Network:
            Network Adapter                                   Belkin 54g Wireless USB Network Adapter  (192.168.2.2)
            Modem                                             Smart Link 56K Modem


      OK. My friend bought me Pro Evo 5, for example. The recommended requirements are:

      Windows 2000/XP
      Intel Pentium IV 1.4GHz processor
      256 MB RAM
      8X DVD-ROM Drive
      NVIDIA GeForce 4 Ti, ATI Radeon 9600, or higher
      DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card
      DirectX 8.1 or higher (included on Disc 1)
      Network(TCP/IP 1.5Mbps or higher)
      3GB free hard disk space

      SUPPORTED CHIPSETS:

      NVIDIA - GeForce FX (5950, 5900, 5800, 5600, 5200), GeForce4 Ti,
      GeForce3

      ATI - Radeon x800, 9800, 9700, 9600, 9500, 9200, 9000, 8500

      That's the main example.

      Would I need to do much to get my machine up to spec.?

      I didn't know I wouldn't be able to play decent games :(
      « Last Edit: November 29, 2006, 07:36:36 PM by carlosthegreat »
      PC: Packard Bell iMedia 1307
      OS: Windows XP SP2
      CPU: Intel Celeron D 341
      RAM: 1024 MB
      HD: 143 GB
      GPU: nVIDIA FX5200
      APU: Creative SB X-fi Xtrememusic

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      Re: Another Graphics Card Problem (sorry guys)
      « Reply #4 on: November 29, 2006, 07:54:31 PM »
      Hmmm, Google finds nothing on your Computer Name and your Motherboard Name is Unknown.   Did you post the whole Everest report?  Do you know the make and model of your computer?  

      Do you know what AGP slots and PCI slots look like?  Have you ever opened your computer?  Ever installed any components?

      carlosthegreat

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        Re: Another Graphics Card Problem (sorry guys)
        « Reply #5 on: November 29, 2006, 08:07:39 PM »
        Here's the PC and where I bought it from
        http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/As+Advertised/PACKARD+BELL/IMEDIA+1307/237541

        I bought it about a year ago & it was £200 more expensive

        I posted the whole of the summary yeah (apart from the peripherals).

        Yeah I have opened my PC before, I was disappointed with the amount of RAM fitted so I put some more in. I don't know AGP or PCI slots, but I guess I could find them.

        I'm sorry if this is wasted time. I just wondered if a graphics card update would help.  :-?
        PC: Packard Bell iMedia 1307
        OS: Windows XP SP2
        CPU: Intel Celeron D 341
        RAM: 1024 MB
        HD: 143 GB
        GPU: nVIDIA FX5200
        APU: Creative SB X-fi Xtrememusic

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        Re: Another Graphics Card Problem (sorry guys)
        « Reply #6 on: November 29, 2006, 10:10:11 PM »
        According to the website you posted, you have 3 PCI slots but no AGP slots.  AGP was specifically designed for video cards and was designed for higher performance than using PCI slots for video cards.  So, that's a limiting factor on upgrading video on your computer.  

        Still, I believe you would get better performance by installing a PCI video card.  But, as GX1_MAN said, a celeron processor is not the processor of choice for gaming enthusiasts.  If you want to take a look at some PCI video cards, here's one online seller's selection: Video / Graphics Cards  PCI Video Cards .  

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          Re: Another Graphics Card Problem (sorry guys)
          « Reply #7 on: December 01, 2006, 11:29:11 AM »
          Thanks Mr. Bean.

          I've been looking and reading a few reviews. I now realise that I should've bought one with a AGP slot :(

          This seems to be the best PCI card I could find:
          http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-FX5200-128MB-AGP8X-TVOUT/dp/tech-data/B0000TNZEY/ref=de_a_smtd/202-0536427-6605466

          I don't mind spending another £20, but I really just want to know if the above is the right kind of thing. Thanks.
          PC: Packard Bell iMedia 1307
          OS: Windows XP SP2
          CPU: Intel Celeron D 341
          RAM: 1024 MB
          HD: 143 GB
          GPU: nVIDIA FX5200
          APU: Creative SB X-fi Xtrememusic

          soybean



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          Re: Another Graphics Card Problem (sorry guys)
          « Reply #8 on: December 01, 2006, 12:00:33 PM »
          Wait!  That's not a PCI card, it's AGP, as indicated in the title: XFX GF FX5200 128MB DDR [highlight]AGP[/highlight]8X TVOUT.  Here's a PCI card: Gainward GeForce FX PP PRO/660 TV-DVI PCI FX5200 128Mb.  Note: there's a discrepancy in the info on amount of memory on this card.  The title says 128MB but the detailed info says 64MB.  You might want to seek clarification on this, or assume it's 64MB.  Also note that this card has DVI connector.  If you need a VGA connector, you can get a DVI-to-VGA adapter; they don't cost much.

          For a card with 256MB, see: XFX GF FX5200 256MB DDR PCI DVI/TVO

          Here's one with a VGA connector and 128MB: XFX GF FX5200 128MB DDR PCI VGA/TV-OUT - LP VERSION

          « Last Edit: December 01, 2006, 12:16:16 PM by soybean »

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            Re: Another Graphics Card Problem (sorry guys)
            « Reply #9 on: December 01, 2006, 12:48:04 PM »
            Nice one.

            Last question(s) how do I know if I have a DVI or VGA connection and will the overall thing be difficult to connect?
            PC: Packard Bell iMedia 1307
            OS: Windows XP SP2
            CPU: Intel Celeron D 341
            RAM: 1024 MB
            HD: 143 GB
            GPU: nVIDIA FX5200
            APU: Creative SB X-fi Xtrememusic

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            Re: Another Graphics Card Problem (sorry guys)
            « Reply #10 on: December 01, 2006, 01:03:19 PM »
            This web page, http://www.directron.com/dviguide.html, has an image which clearly shows VGA and DVI ports on a video card.  This should help with installation: How to Upgrade and Install a Video Card

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              Re: Another Graphics Card Problem (sorry guys)
              « Reply #11 on: December 01, 2006, 02:28:34 PM »
              Thanks.

              OK so I opened up my PC and found the make of the motherboard. Here it is:
              http://www.chiptech1.com/static/stats/MBU_223.htm

              Am I right in thinking it has an AGP slot? Can I go ahead with a AGP card?

              Lastly, my monitor does support DVI.
              PC: Packard Bell iMedia 1307
              OS: Windows XP SP2
              CPU: Intel Celeron D 341
              RAM: 1024 MB
              HD: 143 GB
              GPU: nVIDIA FX5200
              APU: Creative SB X-fi Xtrememusic

              soybean



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              Re: Another Graphics Card Problem (sorry guys)
              « Reply #12 on: December 01, 2006, 03:42:25 PM »
              If your motherboard is, in fact, the same as the one shown in the picture in that link, then, yes, you have an AGP slot and can use an AGP card.  The brown slot next to the three white PCI slots is the AGP slot.

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              Re: Another Graphics Card Problem (sorry guys)
              « Reply #13 on: December 01, 2006, 04:00:13 PM »
              This is pretty important when you go shopping...


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                Re: Another Graphics Card Problem (sorry guys)
                « Reply #14 on: December 01, 2006, 04:37:01 PM »
                Yeah, there was a brown slot. That's the motherboard, I'm certain.

                This will honestly be my three last questions (you guys really are ace)

                1) Could you recommend the best video card for around £50? I think that's around $80
                2) Would I have to physically remove the onboard card or can I just disable it? It seems to be encase by other things.
                3) Patio, when you say "this is important" do you mean the "I.5V" aspect? Is this something I woul have to consider wen buying a new video card?

                Thanks.
                PC: Packard Bell iMedia 1307
                OS: Windows XP SP2
                CPU: Intel Celeron D 341
                RAM: 1024 MB
                HD: 143 GB
                GPU: nVIDIA FX5200
                APU: Creative SB X-fi Xtrememusic