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Need Advice: Taking a website down - LEGALLY
« on: March 12, 2010, 08:58:24 PM »
There is an absolutely disgusting website I was tricked into going to last night (full to the brim with pedophilia, racial slurrs and many other things I can't even begin to repeat) in a way not much different than being "Rickrolled". The website has moved me in such a way that I can't just sit here doing nothing while the site exists.

I just need some information as to how I can take this site down, petition, contacting ISPs, etc.
I will provide a link in a PM upon request, but posting it here is actually (I'm pretty sure) a ban-able offence.

Oh, just a side-note for those who call 4chan the ***hole of the Internet, if this site was the ***hole of the Internet than 4chan would be a toddler-forum in comparison.
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Re: Need Advice: Taking a website down - LEGALLY
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2010, 04:31:57 AM »
https://tips.fbi.gov/

You need to find out what country to site is located in first.

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Re: Need Advice: Taking a website down - LEGALLY
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2010, 06:29:15 AM »
I'm curious to know what site it is.  Maybe I'm a member.

Seriously, though...like kpac said, a first step would be finding out the country of origin.  Depending on the country and the degree of the content, the site could be within legal limits.
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Re: Need Advice: Taking a website down - LEGALLY
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2010, 07:37:06 AM »
Well here is the WHOIS (minus the site):
DOMAIN: ________.COM

RSP: domaindiscount24.com
URL: http://www.dd24.net

owner-contact: P-KCA393
owner-fname: Kimmo
owner-lname: Alm
owner-street: Lina Sandells plan 18, bv.
owner-city: Stockholm
owner-zip: 12953
owner-country: SE
owner-phone: 0737778461
owner-email:

admin-contact: P-KCA393
admin-fname: Kimmo
admin-lname: Alm
admin-street: Lina Sandells plan 18, bv.
admin-city: Stockholm
admin-zip: 12953
admin-country: SE
admin-phone: 0737778461
admin-email:

tech-contact: P-KCA393
tech-fname: Kimmo
tech-lname: Alm
tech-street: Lina Sandells plan 18, bv.
tech-city: Stockholm
tech-zip: 12953
tech-country: SE
tech-phone: 0737778461
tech-email:

billing-contact: P-KCA393
billing-fname: Kimmo
billing-lname: Alm
billing-street: Lina Sandells plan 18, bv.
billing-city: Stockholm
billing-zip: 12953
billing-country: SE
billing-phone: 0737778461
billing-email:

nameserver: ns.prq.se
nameserver: ns2.prq.se


So, the site is located in Sweden and the content is not within legal limits (of pretty much any modern country)...so what government agency in Sweden is in charge of removing child pornography?

CBMatt, you are DEFINITELY NOT a member on this site.
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Re: Need Advice: Taking a website down - LEGALLY
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2010, 09:34:35 AM »
Did you research the so called legal limits of the Country of Sweden ? ?
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Re: Need Advice: Taking a website down - LEGALLY
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2010, 09:41:36 AM »
Depending on the country and the degree of the content, the site could be within legal limits.

If they are actually illegal then contacting the ISP is usually enough to have a website taken down.

It didn't take much to figure out you probably "found" this website on one of the anonymous type websites. You do know that viewing child pornography alone is illegal. The "i didn't know" excuse will not hold water in court.

I'm just saying....

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Re: Need Advice: Taking a website down - LEGALLY
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2010, 10:05:21 AM »
If they are actually illegal then contacting the ISP is usually enough to have a website taken down.

It didn't take much to figure out you probably "found" this website on one of the anonymous type websites. You do know that viewing child pornography alone is illegal. The "i didn't know" excuse will not hold water in court.

I'm just saying....
"(Internet slang) (transitive) (neologism) To coax one into clicking on a hyperlink which leads to something other than what is claimed, originating with YouTube videos of Rick Astley's song Never Gonna Give You Up."

@Patio,
I was fairly sure child pornography was illegal in pretty much every country which is "modernized". "and Sweden eventually recriminalized child pornography in 1980,"

I did a little bit of research on the site and I am not the only one who was offended by the content of the site. Apparently, the site has had more than one ISP (after being dropped), so the owner obviously knows exactly what he is doing and that it is wrong. I think the only solution is to alert the Swedish government and stop the problem at the source.
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    Re: Need Advice: Taking a website down - LEGALLY
    « Reply #8 on: March 13, 2010, 02:27:35 PM »
    You might want to run a couple of full AV scans to be certain you didn't pick up a "visitor" when you clicked the link to the page in question.....


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    Re: Need Advice: Taking a website down - LEGALLY
    « Reply #9 on: March 13, 2010, 03:43:07 PM »
    Some Internet Services Providers do limit or restrict some known web sites. But they may inadvertently be breaking the law by blocking a website without just cause. One of my websites got on a blacklist and I hard to tear it down and wait awhile before it was allowed back on. I do not know to this day what is was they did not like about it. The website was in development and had many pages of gibberish as place holders in page layouts.

    In no way was it a porn site. I would like to see them all banned. Freedom of speech does not give anyone the right to put offensive material in plain public view.


    The should be a legal way to prevent porn sites from "pushing" there way into your browser by deception. Perhaps new legislation is needed. Maybe requirement that the site has to identify TRASH in a summary page that can be parsed by your local ISP. If complaints are recived and it becomes clear taht hte web site breasks the rule, then it would be legal to ban  for failure to clearly identify restricted content. Yes, it can be done.

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    Re: Need Advice: Taking a website down - LEGALLY
    « Reply #10 on: March 13, 2010, 06:13:26 PM »
    My advice would be to contact the proper authorities...and the ISP.
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    Re: Need Advice: Taking a website down - LEGALLY
    « Reply #11 on: March 13, 2010, 06:43:00 PM »
    My advice would be to contact the proper authorities...and the ISP.
    Yes, Patio is right on. Let those in power know what you find.

    I was going to make a long rant on this, but that does little good.

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    Re: Need Advice: Taking a website down - LEGALLY
    « Reply #12 on: March 13, 2010, 07:29:27 PM »
    The 'Anonymous' hacking group has had a go at this site I believe. The site itself is shutdown now.

    You can search for it on, for the details about the owner and site and what happened,
    if it's the same one I'm thinking , it's from the same person, Lina Sandells:
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    http://encyclopediadramatica.com
    I'll leave out the url too incase it is still up somehow, I didn't check it myself.
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    Re: Need Advice: Taking a website down - LEGALLY
    « Reply #13 on: March 14, 2010, 04:25:55 AM »
    What's wrong with Encyclopedia Dramatica? It's a little OTT, but that's the internet for you.

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    Re: Need Advice: Taking a website down - LEGALLY
    « Reply #14 on: March 14, 2010, 06:05:49 AM »
    Okay, I'm pretty sure I know the site in question.  Is it a BBS site?  If I am thinking of the right site, then I don't believe it is illegal.  Even by US law, a lot of the content is within legal limits, much like NAMBLA.  You can certainly report the site if you want to, but it is already well-known and as far as I am aware, it is not currently breaking the law.

    Of course, this is only assuming that I am thinking of the correct site (which doesn't even compare to 4chan, in my opinion).  I'm sending a PM your way so I can verify.
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