Very hot laptop

[Treval]

My laptop's temperature (core) is always 80°C.. hdd temp 43°C.. other temp 50°C.. my fan sucks.. I think.. can someone tell me a good fan controlling program or something to help this issue because I don't want my mobo to melt..

Hmm.. maybe something like this is feasible.. I hope it'll cool my laptop down to let's say 43°C.. I mean come on this is too hot.. when I touch the fan's wind exhaust on the back of the laptop I *censored* burn my fingers.. yep.. 80°C.. rofl..

[inuyasha555]

My friend has something like that and it works pretty well. I don't really like the concept of having it on a fan but what do I care.

What REALLY gets hot is the charger when left in too long... >.< God, it could burn a hole through the floor.

[Treval]

Perhaps this is also a good one (the best one actually):
big fan

3 questions:

1. Doesn't it take up too much space?
2. Isn't it too noisy? (check the dB values (27))
3. Does it fit on any laptop?

[rthompson80819]

Part of the question is how or where you use your laptop.  If you usually use it on a desk or table top there are some tilted stands or mounts that allow air circulation underneath the laptop and that helps cool it with no fan noise.  Of course they are not very portable.

IMHO, the slight angle also makes it easier to type.

[Treval]

Yes, I've seen those at the last company I worked for. I find it a bit ugly but I prefer a fan. It actually cools it pretty decent. I've tried even with the laptop completely free and still the temp is 69°C. Too hot. Also Kaspersky makes a lot of heat (it is processing all the time; because I want it to).

Environment:

I always put the laptop flat on my wooden desk (yes, wood.. rofl) and the ventilation holes on the bottom of the laptop get no air. Yesterday I've tried to put some floppy diskette stacks under the laptop corners. It helped a bit. Anyway I should definitely get fans.

[BC_Programmer]

I take it this laptop also doesn't possess the little legs that are on some laptops? (My older (circa 1994 and 95) laptops have these, but my newer one doesn't, and I don't know if it's just my specific model or if they just don't do that anymore.

[Treval]

Nope, doesn't have the little legs. Just has insignificant low rubber naps on the bottom, just for the sake of firmness.. but for the rest, nope. I'll get a fan. =P

VWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Will probably cool my system decently.

[BC_Programmer]

Nope, doesn't have the little legs. Just has insignificant low rubber naps on the bottom, just for the sake of firmness.. but for the rest, nope. I'll get a fan. =P

VWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Will probably cool my system decently.

you could hire somebody to stand there and puff air on it to keep it cool. But I imagine the novelty will wear off pretty quickly. And they'd need a lot of specialized training to not get light-headed.

[Treval]

Hm true. However all my slaves are working on my PC at the moment. =O

[soybean]

Environment:

I always put the laptop flat on my wooden desk (yes, wood.. rofl) and the ventilation holes on the bottom of the laptop get no air. Yesterday I've tried to put some floppy diskette stacks under the laptop corners. It helped a bit. Anyway I should definitely get fans.

Umm, why laugh about a wooden desk?  Is wood not a common material for desks?   

To say that your laptop gets no air through the ventilation holes on the bottom is surely inaccurate.  What make and model is it?  Surely, with the "low rubber naps on the bottom" are there not  only to stabilize the computer but also to allow some air flow underneath.  Why would a computer manufacturer put ventilation holes on bottom if the computer had absolutely no space between its bottom and the surface it was sitting on?
 

Yes, I've seen those at the last company I worked for. I find it a bit ugly but I prefer a fan. It actually cools it pretty decent. I've tried even with the laptop completely free and still the temp is 69°C. Too hot. Also Kaspersky makes a lot of heat (it is processing all the time; because I want it to).

Exactly what do you mean by "with the laptop completely free"?   Put Kaspersky to sleep for awhile, a long while, and see where temps stand.  And, what do you mean by "it is processing all the time"?  Do mean running in the background to provide real time protection to email, etc.?  Or, do you mean actually doing a full scan of your hard drive?  The latter is simply not necessary, and the former should not have much affect on temps; running in the background is normal for an anti-virus program.

A cooling fan can be helpful but I think you need to still investigate the causes of the high temps.  Your temps are way too high.  Have you used Task Manager to monitor activity and see whether it shows a process hogging CPU resources?

[Treval]

Even when my laptop is at a mere 8%-23% CPU (firefox) while doing nothing at all, the temp is still 73°C. My laptop model just had bad ventilation (so I heard from people talking about AMD) and I took my laptop for repair a few months ago, the guy somehow shoved a DVD drive + entire new NorthBridge on this thing and my laptop is now as tight as heck. I mean, the DVD drive barely seems to fit in my laptop now. It actually almost bulges the laptop's form because he somehow managed to make the space in my laptop crappier (= more heat) not to mention I paid $300 for this guy to repair it!! He also said "you got off it cheap because usually you'd pay a lot more for outside custom part + labor hours" Yeah. He fixed my NorthBridge in 48 hours.. but whatever..

Oh yeah, also one of the little rubber tips beneath my laptop is gone. This isn't awesome ventilation space I'm talking about. Besides, it doesn't help anything because the little rubber things are actually at a higher level than the fan.
The fan's plastic architecture is made so that it sticks to the surface without hardly any breathing space. Nice huh? Not to mention the plastic rubber support thingy on the side of the fan holes is gone........even if it was there, my laptop just gets way too hot (it did even when it was unmodified and I had it).

Something is definitely wrong with the architecture (or form factor) of my laptop.
I definitely need a fan.

By scanning of Kaspersky I actually mean an in-deep scan + heuristics + whatever existing deep option there is, of the harddrive..
Hm funny. None of my scanning tools are set to 'automatic'. They are all set to 'manual' in kaspersky.. hm..

Current temps:
HD0: 41°C, Temp1: 58°C, Core: 75°C

Now Kaspersky is heating the bananas out of my laptop again because it's updating the virus db.. you have no idea how often this thing updates virus db.. practically every second on this earth when a new worm/*ware is discovered.. anyways I want that constant protection.

By "laptop completely free" I mean that the laptop is just in plain air, that the ventilation holes get all the air they can get. Also in my room I hardly ever open windows and my door is mostly closed. This morning when I had the windows open and the air was flowing in from outside, my temp was like.. 63°C. That's the coolest temperature of the core I've ever experienced.

Also, when my handpalms rest on the laptop, I nearly burn my fingers because it's quite hot (or rather, near-hot, uncomfortably warm).

Here is the model of my laptop:

MSI VR610 (link to my laptop)

Processor: AMD 64 Athlon X2  TK-55 9x200 MHz multiplier

[soybean]

I have Compaq notebook PC with a very similar processor to yours; mine has an AMD 64 Athlon X2 TK-53 CPU.  The temps for the two CPU cores nearly alway stays in the 50's during normal use. 

I've had the computer since July 2007.  A few months ago, I bought a cooling pad.  It doesn't make a big difference but, even with the fans off, makes a little difference which seems to come from just having the computer sitting on the aluminum pad. 

I do think you should get a cooler since your temps are so high.  This inexpensive one might be worth a try: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834993332&cm_re=laptop_cooling_pad-_-34-993-332-_-Product.  In the image of it on newegg.com, the four corners appear to have a raised area with groves.  That should help provide some space under the computer sitting on it and the groves might also aid in air flow.  The one I bought is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834992005.  Newegg.com has many others, too.

Based on your comments about Kaspersky, I think I'd uninstall it and try avast! Antivirus.  If you get it, install it with its default settings and try that.

Since your laptop is missing one of the "rubber naps" on bottom, I'd buy a package of general-purpose rubber naps and put them on the bottom; be sure to position them so that all four corners touch the surface when sitting on a flat surface.  You can buy such things in home improvement stores such as Home Depot and Lowe's. 

[Treval]

Kaspersky is the best antivirus on this entire planet. Forget Avast.
By the way, I don't live in America.
I can afford the expensive fans. I don't like cheap things.
I'll try the groves.

[soybean]

By the way, I don't live in America.

Oops, I forgot about that.

Kaspersky is the best antivirus on this entire planet. Forget Avast.

Avast is quite good, and you keep talking about how Kaspersky is constantly tasking your computer. So, why not try a change?   

I can afford the expensive fans. I don't like cheap things.
I'll try the groves.

Umm, the one I mentioned with the gooves is a cheap, i.e. low cost, one. 

[jacksjacks53]

go to the dump and pick up a few old pcs you can always find them knocking arround, people will throw away everything.
take out hte fans from the old pcs and mount them under your laptop or inside your pc, you could even use the old psu to run them]


will definately help to keep  your system nice and cool

[soybean]

go to the dump and pick up a few old pcs you can always find them knocking arround, people will throw away everything.
take out hte fans from the old pcs and mount them under your laptop or inside your pc, you could even use the old psu to run them]


will definately help to keep  your system nice and cool

You can safely ignore this advice.

[Treval]

Obviously.. =P

[rthompson80819]

go to the dump and pick up a few old pcs you can always find them knocking arround, people will throw away everything.
take out hte fans from the old pcs and mount them under your laptop or inside your pc, you could even use the old psu to run them]

I'm still trying to get over the mental image I got from this suggestion.

[patio]

I'm still trying to get over the mental image I got from this suggestion.

Are you at the Dump right now ? ?

If not...not to worry.

 

[Treval]

Temperature registered at unplugged laptop (battery) @ 791 MHz only & free air:

Core: 55-59°C
Temp1: 76°C

So now it's switched back.
App: SpeedFan

Well anyway, I get these high temps because I heavily develop games in Visual Studio. It soups up avg 200 MB per project, ~300-400 at runtime. I also have a lot of apps running..etc..

[patio]

When your wprking on a project shut down as many background apps as you can...
I suggest StartupCPL by Mike Lin...

[soybean]

Temperature registered at unplugged laptop (battery) @ 791 MHz only & free air:

Core: 55-59°C
Temp1: 76°C

So now it's switched back.
App: SpeedFan

Does SpeedFan give you temps for both cores?  If not, try Core Temp. 

[Treval]

The problem is it gets hot no matter what. Ok it doesn't get hot on 791 MHz unplugged and free air but come on, I'm a heavy computer user. I have average 15 tabs open on things (firefox excluded)..

Examples:

- XNA GameStudio (VS 2008 Pro)
- ReSharper constantly reviewing my code (VS 2008 Pro)
- mspaint (screenshots)
- iis (hosting temporary screenshots)
- MS Word 2007 (writing down my blog on my project)
- several notepads (extra notes for project)
- DynDns Updater (update .. yeah)
- SetPoint (Logitech..)
- etc.

It all takes a nice average 500-600 MB of my RAM. =)
I still think I need a fan though. ^^

Treval