Author Topic: Hate (Read 7807 times)

Treval · « **on:** April 14, 2010, 02:11:16 PM »

Just would like to say I hate programming because:

- I have to go ask help to programmers which are in general, well, **** (cussword not allowed).
- IRC is full off ******** who don't respect you and who refuse to help you because they are so elite and because I ask such 'stupid' questions

*censored* egotrippers.

Anyway

Quantos · « **Reply #1 on:** April 14, 2010, 02:16:08 PM »

And the point of this is what?

Treval · « **Reply #2 on:** April 14, 2010, 02:17:08 PM »

It's a privilege to write in these forums, not a right.
Be rude and you will lose that privilege.

If you don't want to submit a comment, then don't.

Quantos · « **Reply #3 on:** April 14, 2010, 02:59:12 PM »

This one's just for you.

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Treval · « **Reply #4 on:** April 14, 2010, 03:00:54 PM »

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JJ 3000 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 14, 2010, 03:09:13 PM »

Quote from: Treval on April 14, 2010, 02:11:16 PM

Just would like to say I hate programming because:

- I have to go ask help to programmers which are in general, well, **** (cussword not allowed).
- IRC is full off ******** who don't respect you and who refuse to help you because they are so elite and because I ask such 'stupid' questions

*censored* egotrippers.

Anyway

Well...
If you don't like doing that, then I would suggest that you buy some books. Better yet, take some classes.

Good luck!

Treval · « **Reply #6 on:** April 14, 2010, 03:17:23 PM »

JJ, I've already studied 5,5 years of programming and my closet is filled with fat 600 page books on programming from top to bottom.

I'll just review them. =)
Problem is time. ^^
Yes, time.

Have to make a game and 2 months left.
Huge stress.

Got to make analysis charts, plan stuff, make OO classes, qsmkfdjqsmldfjqlkmsjfskljf.

k.

Actually, to help you understand my frustration, let me just illustrate this:

Imagine if you had any question or problem with your studies and everyone you asked,
co-students included, tells you to go f* yourself and that you ask dumb questions.
How would you feel, all alone, frustrated on your heaps of debugging errors?

Yeah.

JJ 3000 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 14, 2010, 03:25:56 PM »

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Imagine if you had any question or problem with your studies and everyone you asked,
co-students included, tells you to go f* yourself and that you ask dumb questions.

Even your teachers?
What school is that?

Treval · « **Reply #8 on:** April 14, 2010, 03:34:21 PM »

Well, the professors generally don't answer to my questions on the college forums.
I was lucky once, last year, a prof who was really interested in what he taught.
He even wrote a book on programming.
He answered most of my questions.

This happens in some colleges.
You post on the forum, you wait. No one answers, no one cares.
Well, the profs generally don't have the patience to go figure out some debugging that you should do in the end. rofl...
Also the co-students: very selfish. Ever been in a all-math-people class? Those are some real arrogant ego-people.
I'm also referring to IRC.

Helpmeh · « **Reply #9 on:** April 14, 2010, 03:49:42 PM »

Quote from: Treval on April 14, 2010, 03:34:21 PM

Well, the professors generally don't answer to my questions on the college forums.

Well, the profs generally don't have the ~~patience~~ time to go figure out some debugging that you should do in the end. rofl...

You really take your teahers for granted, don't you? How many students do you think your teachers have daily? I am in highschool, where I bet they have smaller classes than yours, my teachers have about 100-120 students. So, think about how long it would take to mark all that homework? Teachers don't often have free time, be thankful some take the time to assist a few people with their issues. And if someone has an obvious issue, it takes ten seconds (or less) to type out:
Your program has issues at lines 1, 27, and 35.

Treval · « **Reply #10 on:** April 14, 2010, 04:13:52 PM »

Programming is not that easy. It often involves deep rooted, sequential, layered logical errors. Especially in big programs. =P

EEVIAC · « **Reply #11 on:** April 14, 2010, 04:28:34 PM »

Treval, you seem to be tied up in many languages. How about sticking to just one for a while, like the one you're writing your assignment in. When you have free time, continue expanding your knowledge of only one.

If it bothers you that much, as it seems to be indicated in other threads you've posted, then it's not worth it.. This topic was named, "HATE", for crying outloud..

Treval · « **Reply #12 on:** April 14, 2010, 04:56:30 PM »

Rofl. Yeah.
I'm sticking to one language though.. which is C# and the XNA Framework.
It's just frustrating that one has to deal with his own problems of programming.

You know what, the guys over at medicine (the doctors, yeah) they are the luckiest.
If you see their discussion boards, it's filled with information and essays and everything,
of thousands of contributing students. I just happen to be in the 'asocial outcasts' sector. Rofl.

I'm just frustrated also because I've forgotten like 90% of C# which is a painnnnnnnnn
and I have to master a new framework in a very short amount of time (2 months left).
I'm going crazy every day (ok not every day lol).

Anyway, I guess I'll just start reading my book again and read up on as much info as I possibly can.
There's a lot of hard work ahead..
(Also frustrating is working on something as simple as a self-made dialog box system (yeah it's harder than it sounds) and being stuck on it for an entire week (which is pretty much untolerable for project progress)).

I'm gonna do my best!!!

lol.

EEVIAC · « **Reply #13 on:** April 14, 2010, 04:58:55 PM »

Quote from: Treval on April 14, 2010, 04:56:30 PM

I've forgotten like 90% of C# which is a painnnnnnnnn

Because your trying to learn too many things.. cut back

When I learn, I stick to a schedule, although I deviate from that schedule at times, because my curiosity cannot resist.. So far in my experience with computers, I've stuck with the things I consider the highest priority. Like Windows for instance. It's the dominant operating system in the world, and the one I'm most likely to encounter when helping someone. I've chosen to put off Linux/MAC until I have a solid understanding of Windows and it's functions... Yes, Windows and a thorough understanding of hardware and Network basics. These things I've stuck to exclusively, priming myself up for learning programming, which I have finally started, recently.. Bottom line is, priority. My priorities just happen to be as described above.

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #14 on:** April 14, 2010, 07:28:54 PM »

ahh, this is that game assignment is it not?

Treval, why not ask the questions in the programming forum here?

Helpmeh · « **Reply #15 on:** April 14, 2010, 07:34:04 PM »

Quote from: BC_Programmer on April 14, 2010, 07:28:54 PM

ahh, this is that game assignment is it not?

Treval, why not ask the questions in the programming forum here?

Exactly! Why waste your time at another forum where you don't get any service, when you could post here and know you will get help (reasonably) quickly.

rthompson80819 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 14, 2010, 07:50:58 PM »

Quote from: Treval on April 14, 2010, 04:13:52 PM

Programming is not that easy. It often involves deep rooted, sequential, layered logical errors. Especially in big programs. =P

A huge part, maybe the most important part, of programming is learning how to debug programs. They very seldom work right the first time. And you won't always have teachers to go to for advice.

You could set a end result for a program and 10 different people would code it 10 different ways.

EEVIAC · « **Reply #17 on:** April 14, 2010, 07:52:25 PM »

Just get madd, let it out

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BC_Programmer · « **Reply #18 on:** April 14, 2010, 07:56:44 PM »

I've spent hours and days debugging the same issues with BASeParser only to find it was a bug in one of my other libraries.

Of course the time wasn't wasted. I did find and fix hundreds of other issues that I thought might have been the root cause. heh.

EEVIAC · « **Reply #19 on:** April 14, 2010, 08:08:06 PM »

Quote from: BC_Programmer on April 14, 2010, 07:56:44 PM

I've spent hours and days debugging the same issues

I'm looking forward to that..

I'm glad you mentioned that you found bugs in the libraries. I might not have considered that until after a while of grief

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #20 on:** April 14, 2010, 08:10:51 PM »

I said, <My> other libraries

aside from the standard type of stuff you'd find with a 12 year old development environment, and aside from the fact that the basic "framework" VB6 provides is crap, I really cannot think of any bugs in the actual run-time or core stuff that I'd have to worry about.

EEVIAC · « **Reply #21 on:** April 14, 2010, 08:19:03 PM »

Quote from: BC_Programmer on April 14, 2010, 08:10:51 PM

I said, <My> other libraries

right! sorry

Haven't gotten into writing my own libraries yet. Haven't even gotten into C++ classes yet, for that matter..

Within the next couple weeks though...

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aside from the standard type of stuff you'd find with a 12 year old development environment, and aside from the fact that the basic "framework" VB6 provides is crap, I really cannot think of any bugs in the actual run-time or core stuff that I'd have to worry about.

eeexcellent...

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Treval · « **Reply #22 on:** April 15, 2010, 05:33:19 AM »

Yes BC I'll try to ask the questions here.
Relatively fast? I don't know. People have their busy lives and sometimes I just need a quick response.

BC is like the friendliest programmer I've seen. =P

glaba · « **Reply #23 on:** April 28, 2010, 04:48:56 PM »

I am going to contact computerhope

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #24 on:** April 28, 2010, 04:49:51 PM »

Quote from: glaba on April 28, 2010, 04:48:56 PM

I am going to contact computerhope

Ok, remember- his full name is "Computerhope McGee"

Computer Hope Forum

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