need help with new case

[alienwarem7700]

not sure if anyone owns an old alienware preditor case and would know if it could fit a mico-atx motherboard in it.
looking to put this in http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130246
and have this now http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/D875PBZ/sb/CS-008952.htm
this is a full tower case.

[mr-bisquit]

Have you looked at the measurements for both and used that to determine?

If a case is 4x6x2 and a board is the same, it won't fit.

[Calum]

Have a look at the standoffs in the case, see if they match up.  If you're unsure, post a picture of the interior with the motherboard removed.
From what I can find, that case was never released as just the case, only as part of the full Predator system, so I'm unable to find any info on whether it would support micro ATX boards.
There's no logical reason why it shouldn't, but OEMs such as Acer aren't always logical.
I wouldn't purchase the new board until you have confirmed it will/will not fit.

If anyone does have that case, they would of course be able to tell you, but it's not the most common thing around

[alienwarem7700]

what do you think?

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[patio]

It will work with any decent case...
The stanoff screw holes are there for both mini ATX and full size...
However this may not be true for mini's...
Call the case manuf.

[alienwarem7700]

yeah i call alienware and i have to have an account and stuff so they are usless so i was hoping someone on here has upgraded their case

[alienwarem7700]

can i put all the parts im ordering on here so people can tell me how well my system will run/ if its compatible with each other?

[Computer_Commando]

Measure it:  http://www.formfactors.org/developer/specs/matxspe1.2.pdf

[Calum]

That will fit a micro ATX board just fine.

can i put all the parts im ordering on here so people can tell me how well my system will run/ if its compatible with each other?

Sure, go right ahead

[patio]

Howdy Calum ! !

[Calum]

Howdy Calum ! !

It's been a while ...

[alienwarem7700]

thanks for assuring my case will fit my mobo here are new egg links to all my products i will purchase from them i might get the other stuff such as thermal paste etc from local stores
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130246
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115214&cm_re=core_i7-_-19-115-214-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&cm_re=core_i7_power_supply-_-17-139-006-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104181&cm_re=ddr3_ram-_-20-104-181-_-Product

i need suggestions on a graphics card that is cheap and i could possibly run in crossfire
i have cd drives etc but can you think of anything else and how well will it run?!

[Calum]

You probably don't need a 750W PSU unless you intend on some very high end graphics cards.  Drop that down to a 650W Corsair, that leaves you plenty of headroom for upgrades and would save some cash.  Put that cash towards something like an ATI 5770.  Also, I'd advise grabbing 4GB of RAM, it's more cost effective (around $100 for 4GB vs nearly $70 for 2GB).
Alternatively, if you give us a budget, the parts you already have, and what you want to use the machine for, we could possibly come up with other suggestions.
Those parts will however work just fine.

[alienwarem7700]

yeah ordered all my parts but it doesnt fit



looks like i need to drill some holes in my case

[patio]

Doesn't make sense it don't fit...
Course MSI tends to do what they want...

[JJ 3000]

I've had several problems with MSI boards.
Don't even get me started on the drivers.

looks like i need to drill some holes in my case

From the pic it looks like you have the necessary holes. You might need to move the standoffs around to accommodate the board's screw holes.

[alienwarem7700]

no three holes dont line up.... what would happen if i just screwed it in with 3 missing???

[JJ 3000]

The board could short out.

You might need to move the standoffs around to accommodate the board's screw holes.

[alienwarem7700]

when you mean short out do you mean like turn on and shut right off or like spark and ruin it
Also does anyone knows what happens when you turn it on with no processor what will happen

[Calum]

when you mean short out do you mean like turn on and shut right off or like spark and ruin it

Could do either.  Not worth risking it.

Also does anyone knows what happens when you turn it on with no processor what will happen

It won't POST.  It may either not turn on at all, it may turn on, fans will spin and nothing happens, it may turn on and shut down, it may beep, it may not.  Different boards do different things.  There's no point in turning it on without a processor in, regardless.