music help

[nymph4]

If I put a spound file on a web page that is
386 kB in size is this to big for a background sound to play??
It is an MP3

[Geek-9pm]

Yes. Much to big for a background sound.
Make a very short sample. The add a link so that the user can click to hear the whole thing. If she wants to.

[BC_Programmer]

a better solution is to not have background sound at all.

Besides, I don't think MP3 can even be used as a background sound.

[nymph4]

What file format can be used  WAV   and what??

[nymph4]

A lot of people have  Flash or Shockwave in there web browsers.

Can I code an  MP3  file to auto play in a web page  for that player???

Almost everything you need Flash or Sockwave for on the net  so if I can code my sound file to  use them to play it it will be able to.

My MP3 file for background sound will be 5 SEC.

[Quantos]

a better solution is to not have background sound at all.

Besides, I don't think MP3 can even be used as a background sound.

It can, I did it once on an old site I had.  If I remember correctly I had to embed a player in the page though.  It took a crap load of tweaking to get it to load anywhere near quickly, and finally had to go with a really low bitrate recording.  It was so terrible that I yanked it pretty quickly.

[soybean]

What file format can be used  WAV   and what??

MID is the format normally used for sound embedded in a web page.  Here's a good reference: http://www.webreference.com/js/column20/embed.html and it has sound embedded in it.

Note: Firefox and Chrome would not play the background sound for me; they displayed a popup saying "Your browser can not play sound".  Only IE worked and it prompted me to allow the Windows Media Player plug-on to run. 

[BC_Programmer]

the <embed> element has not, nor has it ever been, a standard HTML element; as evidenced by it's non-support  in msot every browser aside IE.

http://www.w3schools.com/media/media_browsersounds.asp

[soybean]

the <embed> element has not, nor has it ever been, a standard HTML element;

It's covered in many books on HTML and online HTML references.  So, I have to say it is a standard HTML element.  It's just not supported by some browsers, which is a compelling reason not to use it.

[BC_Programmer]

It's covered in many books on HTML and online HTML references.  So, I have to say it is a standard HTML element. 

I'm afraid that doesn't add it to the standard.

HTML4 tags:

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/index/elements.html

the embed tag was first used by Netscape Navigator. IE added it for compatibility with it.

Note that with IE8 it barely works at all- requires clicking through several prompts, and refuses to play until the user clicks play in the player.

EMBED is <only> supported by IE and browsers based on it. it is not a standard.

Also, that page is outdated anyway:

Created: May 31, 1998
Revised: May 31, 1998

Would you be able to use a Windows book from 1998 to work with windows 7?

[soybean]

Would you be able to use a Windows book from 1998 to work with windows 7?

Of course not.  I did not notice the date.

I'm afraid that doesn't add it to the standard.

Then, what does?  The book I'm looking at was used in a web design class at a local college.  It's copyright date is 2007, which was a revision of previous editions.  So, it's not the most current but not really very old, either; of course, all browsers have gone through multiple version updates since then. The book even says <embed> "currently remains well supported by all the popular browsers."  However, the book also says, "Today's standard is the <object> tag with the data attribute, and we recommend that you use it in lieu of <embed>."

[Quantos]

Would you be able to use a Windows book from 1998 to work with windows 7?

You mean for something useful right

[BC_Programmer]

The confusion here is that you're thinking of "De facto" standards, whereas I'm referring to De Jeure Standards.

[kpac]

Then, what does?

The W3C decides, with the help of many HTML groups on the Web.

[nymph4]

This is what I ment.
A lot of people have  Media Player   Real Player  Winamp   and many many more.

And wen you have a Midi File on a web page as background sound  there player plays it.

So why would it not work if I encode MP3 file???