Upgrading to different motherboard questions.

[69Z28]

Ok. Thanks.

Next questions. I have 2 Pentium II processors with MMX technology model SL2HA I pulled from an old computer. Would I be able to use these, or one, if I found a board to work with my current cards? Or is it better for me to find , if possible, a board that has the socket 7 and find a socket 7 P2 processor?

If I'm reading what I have researched correctly so far, I believe I am limited to what will fit in my chassis. Pentium III's look to fit in a different chassis altogether. As a matter of fact I have a chassis that looks to be compatible to alot of the motherboards I see on ebay, with the connections for mouse, keyboard, etc. on the edge of the motherboards. Would that be a candidate for me to build something from scratch? Just somethings going thru my mind.

[Computer_Commando]

Slot 1 CPU

Slot 1 slot

Socket 370

Slocket adapter, allows Socket 370 chip to be used in Slot 1 motherboard.

[Computer_Commando]

...1.  I have 2 Pentium II processors with MMX technology model SL2HA I pulled from an old computer. Would I be able to use these, or one, if I found a board to work with my current cards? Or is it better for me to find , if possible, a board that has the socket 7 and find a socket 7 P2 processor?
2.  If I'm reading what I have researched correctly so far, I believe I am limited to what will fit in my chassis. Pentium III's look to fit in a different chassis altogether...

1.  That's a Slot 1 processor, which needs a Slot 1 motherboard.  Pentium II's never used Socket 7.
2.  Pentium III's can be Slot 1 or Socket 370.  Pentium II's were all Slot 1.

[BC_Programmer]

1.  That's a Slot 1 processor, which needs a Slot 1 motherboard.  Pentium II's never used Socket 7.
2.  Pentium III's can be Slot 1 or Socket 370.  Pentium II's were all Slot 1.

This is true. I mgiht also add, that the competition didn't adopt Slot 1; instead sticking with Socket 7 and later Super Socket 7 (K6-2, K6-2+ and the K6-3 from AMD, for example, and the Cyrix M-II processors. I only mention this because sometimes when people say "Pentium II" they implicitly mean "pentium II era" machine.

[Quantos]

I actually remember Cyrix machines, they were ultra cheap(both ways).  I can't believe how crappy they were.

[69Z28]

Ok. I'm back. I decided to go a different route with the old desktop. Instead of changing the motherboard, I'll keep it and change to a different processor. Looking at IT and doing some internet reading based on the info you all provided here the past couple of days it seems to me I can probably go with a socket type Pentium II if there are any to be had. I think this makes better sense.

I was looking at the desktop I parted out that my wife brought home for parts and decided to put everything back in it and boot it up to see what was wrong with it. Booted up with no issues, however it had NT on it and the prior owner had it password protected. So I loaded XP on it. Had a few issues with detecting the drives and ATAPI Incompatible Press F1 to Resume issues as well but got them figured out.

The BIOS (NetPower BIOS REV3.0) is like nothing I have seen before and I had to get on the net to figure some things out but so far it's all good. The only issue I can't figure out and I'm hoping you all can help is in regards to booting up. After the detection page, the next page comes up and at the bottom it has **Loading Boot Record from Floppy...and it asks me to select the OS to start before I can get in to Windows. Not really sure what to do here to correct this. Any ideas? If you have questions just ask.

 

[BC_Programmer]

Ok. I'm back. I decided to go a different route with the old desktop. Instead of changing the motherboard, I'll keep it and change to a different processor. Looking at IT and doing some internet reading based on the info you all provided here the past couple of days it seems to me I can probably go with a socket type Pentium II if there are any to be had. I think this makes better sense.

There aren't any Socket-type Pentium-2 chips; there are socket-type Pentium-2 equivalents (such as the AMD K6-2 or Cyrix M-II) but those go into Super Socket 7 sockets, not Socket 7 (I'm fairly certain they aren't backwards compatible). Your choices are pretty much another Pentium 1 chip (but you can't get much better then the one you have in there) or a K6 chip (which wouldn't be any better either).

The BIOS (NetPower BIOS REV3.0) is like nothing I have seen before and I had to get on the net to figure some things out but so far it's all good. The only issue I can't figure out and I'm hoping you all can help is in regards to booting up. After the detection page, the next page comes up and at the bottom it has **Loading Boot Record from Floppy...and it asks me to select the OS to start before I can get in to Windows. Not really sure what to do here to correct this. Any ideas? If you have questions just ask.

if you have no plans for this "parts" machine it would serve the purpose you were intending the other machine for a lot better.

with regards to the OS choices menu, what Operating Systems are listed? if it's NT4 and XP, you need to reinstall XP by performing a clean install (booting to the install disc) and delete all partitions and create a new one for XP. Or, you could edit boot.ini and remove the choice for NT4, but that just hides it.

[Computer_Commando]

There aren't any Socket-type Pentium-2 chips...

I said Pentium II's are all Slot 1's.

...with regards to the OS choices menu, what Operating Systems are listed? if it's NT4 and XP, you need to reinstall XP by performing a clean install (booting to the install disc) and delete all partitions and create a new one for XP. Or, you could edit boot.ini and remove the choice for NT4, but that just hides it.

He said in Reply #17 that it used to have Win98 and he installed WinXP.  Didn't say if it's Pro or Home or whether he did a "clean install".

[69Z28]

There aren't any Socket-type Pentium-2 chips; there are socket-type Pentium-2 equivalents (such as the AMD K6-2 or Cyrix M-II) but those go into Super Socket 7 sockets, not Socket 7 (I'm fairly certain they aren't backwards compatible). Your choices are pretty much another Pentium 1 chip (but you can't get much better then the one you have in there) or a K6 chip (which wouldn't be any better either).

 


 

with regards to the OS choices menu, what Operating Systems are listed? if it's NT4 and XP, you need to reinstall XP by performing a clean install (booting to the install disc) and delete all partitions and create a new one for XP. Or, you could edit boot.ini and remove the choice for NT4, but that just hides it.

Ok. That helps a bunch. I think I'll go back to W98 with it. It was fairly good with that OS. The only thing is I don't think I can connect to the internet with it. It's only the First Edition and I think I would need at least SE to connect unless you know how?

if you have no plans for this "parts" machine it would serve the purpose you were intending the other machine for a lot better.

Yes that is my plan now. The parts machine works nice and it is faster. Why are there 2 P2 processors?


I'll do a re-install and see what happens.

[69Z28]

I said Pentium II's are all Slot 1's.
He said in Reply #17 that it used to have Win98 and he installed WinXP.  Didn't say if it's Pro or Home or whether he did a "clean install".

XP Home is what I'm using. There was not any reference to NT though. 2 Lines to choose from both said XP Home. Could it be something else or should I just try the clean re-install?

[Computer_Commando]

1.  Instead of changing the motherboard, I'll keep it and change to a different processor. ...I can probably go with a socket type Pentium II if there are any to be had. I think this makes better sense.
2.  I was looking at the desktop I parted out that my wife brought home for parts and decided to put everything back in it and boot it up to see what was wrong with it. Booted up with no issues, however it had NT on it and the prior owner had it password protected. So I loaded XP on it. Had a few issues with detecting the drives and ATAPI Incompatible Press F1 to Resume issues as well but got them figured out.

1.  With that motherboard, you're stuck with what you currently have.  It cannot be upgraded further.
2.  Is this a different machine from the one you're trying to upgrade?

[69Z28]

1.  With that motherboard, you're stuck with what you currently have.  It cannot be upgraded further.
2.  Is this a different machine from the one you're trying to upgrade?

See my reply #35
I put the old computer on hold for the moment and I am working on a diferent one now. It was set up with NT and now has XP Home.

 

[Computer_Commando]

See my reply #35
I put the old computer on hold for the moment and I am working on a diferent one now. It was set up with NT and now has XP Home.

I did, but it wasn't clear to me that there were 2 desktops.  When you say "old computer", they're all old computers.  Give 'em designations like "68Z28" or "69Z28".  If you just say Z28 and you have more than one, well you get the idea.

1.  The only thing is I don't think I can connect to the internet with it. It's only the First Edition and I think I would need at least SE to connect unless you know how?
if you have no plans for this "parts" machine it would serve the purpose you were intending the other machine for a lot better.
2.  Why are there 2 P2 processors?

1.  You can connect to the Internet with any edition of Windows.
2.  The parts machine has 2 P2 cpu's.  Before dual core cpu's, they had dual cpu motherboards.

[69Z28]

I did, but it wasn't clear to me that there were 2 desktops.  When you say "old computer", they're all old computers.  Give 'em designations like "68Z28" or "69Z28".  If you just say Z28 and you have more than one, well you get the idea.
1.  You can connect to the Internet with any edition of Windows.
2.  The parts machine has 2 P2 cpu's.  Before dual core cpu's, they had dual cpu motherboards.

Sorry about that. I'm multitasking. I'm actually working on 4 computers at the same time. Drives my wife nuts.

Old computer that I wanted to change motherboard in is on the back burner for now. The parts machine is what I'm working on now.

[69Z28]

I'm trying to load XP with the 6 floppy disc and I keep getting **The file pci.sys is corrupted** after I install the 3rd floppy. When I loaded XP this way yesterday I didn't have this issue and it also appears I cannot load from the CD as well. Any ideas?


I thought maybe the discs got corrupt somehow so I downloaded the fresh copy of the boot discs for BootDisk.com and retried. Same thing happens.


Thanks