Using 2 routers.

[raphael.waller]

I have an Orange Livebox from the ISP that I have to use for their free VOIP calls and have no way around it. Major problem is that the router they give is absolutely horrendous. It drops both wired and wireless connections regularly, and lacks many features that I'd consider standard.

I want to use another router for my internet uses, but have to keep this one they gave me for those calls. Is there any way to do such a thing? Everyone I've spoken to so far has talked about WAP's and bridging the 2 routers, but that frankly doesn't really help all that much because I want to avoid their router altogether given the problems that it causes.

Any input is welcomed

[UNSCSpartan3]

well if you pay for their service you should be able to get your own device... but i cant help past that

[raphael.waller]

The problem is you can't. If I read correctly, they check your MAC address and compare it with the serial number on the rouer they've given you. If it doesn't match, you can't use their VoIP service.

[midsail]

Having the 2 routers won't help u much in this case.  If I am reading and understand the post correctly. U need their router to access the internet and VoIP. The router A (lets say theirs) is the gateway to the Internet. By adding another router won't do any good. U still have to make a connection from router B to Router A which is the gateway. U might be able to spoof router B MAC address . Follow this links for a better explanation, but be forewarn u do this at your own risk.

http://whatismyipaddress.com/change-mac

http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2007/01/09/hacking-knowledge-importance-of-spoofing-your-mac-address/

http://compnetworking.about.com/od/networkprotocolsip/a/macaddressing_2.htm

[rthompson80819]

Have you called your ISP and told them you are having problems?  Could be a bad router or an outside plant issue.  In either case it's their responsibility to fix it.

Is it cable, DSL or satellite?

[UNSCSpartan3]

The problem is you can't. If I read correctly, they check your MAC address and compare it with the serial number on the router they've given you. If it doesn't match, you can't use their VoIP service.

i have comcast and use my own router and all i had to do was call them and tell them to authorize the use of my own device and they did and it works great